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Title: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 09, 2011 10:13 pm
How much thought have you given to speaking with spiritual guides? How do we know they are responding and it is not our own delusions that we hear?


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 09, 2011 10:23 pm
hey Steve !  8)

good question ! I speak to my spiritual guides all the time.

I know it is them and not me as the replies are not from me

you hear delusions ? often ?



Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 09, 2011 10:36 pm
hey Steve !  8)

good question ! I speak to my spiritual guides all the time.

I know it is them and not me as the replies are not from me

you hear delusions ? often ?

Usually i just hear my own thoughts. i do believe that God can reason and speak through our thoughts though. i hear phrases and songs sometimes. i also believe that God can speak through others. Sometimes just the right words are spoken that are pertinent to current conditions. Sometimes others 'hear' much more. i often wonder about it especially when the voices they hear involve me.

Steve


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 09, 2011 10:44 pm
How much thought have you given to speaking with spiritual guides?

Your original question was about spiritual guides, now you are talking about God speaking to you and to others

how would you define " spiritual guides " ?

other people hear voices about you ? not sure I understand ?
they get messages meant for you ?


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 09, 2011 10:49 pm
How much thought have you given to speaking with spiritual guides?

Your original question was about spiritual guides, now you are talking about God speaking to you and to others

how would you define " spiritual guides " ?

other people hear voices about you ? not sure I understand ?
they get messages meant for you ?

Yes messages that refer to me. Spiritual guides; anything that comes from spirit including God. His message is from spirit.


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 09, 2011 10:53 pm
thanx 8)

I would wonder just a bit, about others getting messages for persons other than themselves

perhaps their thoughts influence these messages ? 


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: blue nova on Mar 09, 2011 11:00 pm
How much thought have you given to speaking with spiritual guides? How do we know they are responding and it is not our own delusions that we hear?

in my case....their image appears in my kutastha <3<3<3  also....i feel their essence. 

i can sense if it is my guruji PY....swami rama tirtha.....etc.

i can sense if a friend/lovie comes to me....like my yoga partner....grandfather...i have even felt Jitendra....and so on...

 :)

(((Hugs)))


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 10, 2011 08:13 am
thanx 8)

I would wonder just a bit, about others getting messages for persons other than themselves

perhaps their thoughts influence these messages ? 

This has also been my concern. It is difficult enough to understand what is happening in the messages we get for ourselves.

Yet there are people we can go to for advice and they are often 'guided' by spirit.
There are many things in this life that are not easily separated into black and white.... wrong and right. We are often challenged to use our own discernment, intuition and judgment.

Jitendra


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 10, 2011 12:37 pm
How much thought have you given to speaking with spiritual guides? How do we know they are responding and it is not our own delusions that we hear?

in my case....their image appears in my kutastha <3<3<3  also....i feel their essence. 

i can sense if it is my guruji PY....swami rama tirtha.....etc.

i can sense if a friend/lovie comes to me....like my yoga partner....grandfather...i have even felt Jitendra....and so on...

 :)

(((Hugs)))

hey Steve !  8)

good question ! I speak to my spiritual guides all the time.

I know it is them and not me as the replies are not from me

Nomaste There is a difference though between communicating with spiritual guides and having them give advice about other people. It is sweet that you have such conversations. As you must know there is also much more that awaits us in spiritual development.

Jitendra


thanx 8)

I would wonder just a bit, about others getting messages for persons other than themselves

perhaps their thoughts influence these messages ? 



Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 10, 2011 08:07 pm
Nomaste There is a difference though between communicating with spiritual guides and having them give advice about other people. It is sweet that you have such conversations. As you must know there is also much more that awaits us in spiritual development.

Jitendra

Thanx Jitendra ! I do know there is a difference

Kind of a condescending comment about my conversations being  " sweet "  as if you are saying " yes, but holds no substenance due to lack of feelings and other spiritual signs. "

You keep throwing in this " As you must know there is also much more that awaits us in spiritual development " .... if it is the essences and feelings of lovie with Jitendra... thanx I will pass on that one ! I wonder how much spiritual is in that, how much is delusion, illusion, which you and others of a certain spiritual persuasion always remind us that this life is filled with ? 

never quite sure your purpose when you post multiple quotes ~
or showing difference in reply between mine and Novas ?


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 11, 2011 02:51 am
Thanks for your participation Squirrel. There is  difficulty that i see in using words on the internet. It is difficult to know how they are intended. i can see how you might interpret 'sweet' as condescending. Although it was not intended that way let me say this; It is wonderful that you communicate with your spiritual guides.

Thanks Squirrel i am learning about others here on the forum. We are learning together which in turn helps me make improvement on myself.

As far as the multiple posts it was just a simple way of not answering two posts at the same time on the same thread. Your observations about me are welcome. i can not answer for Annie but i do feel as though she is very special 'lovie' as you put it. You are also a very special squirrel and your perspective is also. It is helpful to see things from other peoples views. Illusion and delusion? i think you are trying to be of help by adding your view. Circumstances make it very difficult to assess your views. Talking to someone on the internet is helpful but until you meet someone and spend time with them it is hard to know how you function together. Perhaps some day i will be able to meet you as well as her and others on soulsearching forum. This is my hope.

We can only help each other if it is taken in the right spirit. Hope i did not miss something here; If i did; i intend to listen again and try to respond if it will help. i for one think that there is much more to learn in my spiritual development. i can not answer for anyone else. i should not answer for you. i just thought you might have the same thoughts. If not then i stand corrected.

Sincerely Steve


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: flying squirrel on Mar 11, 2011 03:38 am
Thanx Steve for your reply and my apologies for misinterpretting your comment regarding communication with my guides.

As far as the multiple posts it was just a simple way of not answering two posts at the same time on the same thread. Your observations about me are welcome. i can not answer for Annie but i do feel as though she is very special 'lovie' as you put it.


Thanx also for the reply on the multiple posts combination....

whoaaaa cowboy ! I didn't say Annie was a very special ' lovie' ... I didn't put it that way at all and I don't feel that way either.  Those were her words in talking about you !! Don't be putting words in my mouth please !

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It is helpful to see things from other peoples views. Illusion and delusion? i think you are trying to be of help by adding your view.
Just for reference, the words illusion and delusion do not really belong in my vocabulary, but I notice them being frequently used here on this forum. Kind of like a spiritual excuse for when things are not going as they should, then blame it on the illusion and delusion of the world. But that is another conversation, for another time. 

peace squirrel  8)


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Mar 11, 2011 03:52 am
Thanx Steve for your reply and my apologies for misinterpretting your comment regarding communication with my guides.

As far as the multiple posts it was just a simple way of not answering two posts at the same time on the same thread. Your observations about me are welcome. i can not answer for Annie but i do feel as though she is very special 'lovie' as you put it.


Thanx also for the reply on the multiple posts combination....

whoaaaa cowboy ! I didn't say Annie was a very special ' lovie' ... I didn't put it that way at all and I don't feel that way either.  Those were her words in talking about you !! Don't be putting words in my mouth please !
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Yes. i realize you were not talking about your views about her. i hope she does mean that about me because i feel that she is a very special lovie!.....


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: blue nova on Mar 11, 2011 12:13 pm
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flying squirrel wrote:
Thanx also for the reply on the multiple posts combination....

whoaaaa cowboy ! I didn't say Annie was a very special ' lovie' ... I didn't put it that way at all and I don't feel that way either.  Those were her words in talking about you !! Don't be putting words in my mouth please !


yes squirrel....we all know how u feel about me.....u make this known quite frequently.

fyi......i refer to ones whom i care about as 'lovies'.....IF u notice i also included my grandfather, friends, yoga partner and my guru....just to name a few.   do u understand now ?

another issue i am going to claify....i am not a liar and i have a pretty good grip on the earths continents......when i said , a while back, that there is someone i care for very much that lives continents away..that is exactly what i meant....plural....continents(S)....not the same continent....and i do not appreciate ur reply to that post.....stating that this person lives on the same continent as i do....and then assuming it was jitendra i was speaking of. 

u have a tendancy to assume and put words into others' thoughts, feelings and words......much like u accuse jitendra of.

another thing i will clarify.......love.  just because someone loves another does not mean it involves sex or sexual feelings ( obviously ).

if the old saying is true...u are what u eat....u may want to jump to another tree ,  one that does not bear such bitter nuts....


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: guest58 on Mar 11, 2011 08:07 pm
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flying squirrel wrote:
Thanx also for the reply on the multiple posts combination....

whoaaaa cowboy ! I didn't say Annie was a very special ' lovie' ... I didn't put it that way at all and I don't feel that way either.  Those were her words in talking about you !! Don't be putting words in my mouth please !


yes squirrel....we all know how u feel about me.....u make this known quite frequently.

fyi......i refer to ones whom i care about as 'lovies'.....IF u notice i also included my grandfather, friends, yoga partner and my guru....just to name a few.   do u understand now ?

another issue i am going to claify....i am not a liar and i have a pretty good grip on the earths continents......when i said , a while back, that there is someone i care for very much that lives continents away..that is exactly what i meant....plural....continents(S)....not the same continent....and i do not appreciate ur reply to that post.....stating that this person lives on the same continent as i do....and then assuming it was jitendra i was speaking of. 

u have a tendancy to assume and put words into others' thoughts, feelings and words......much like u accuse jitendra of.

another thing i will clarify.......love.  just because someone loves another does not mean it involves sex or sexual feelings ( obviously ).

if the old saying is true...u are what u eat....u may want to jump to another tree ,  one that does not bear such bitter nuts....


Aw Shucks your just backing out now when everything was getting cozy and had the flavor of unrequited love?

                                                 Alfie


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: guest88 on May 07, 2011 10:34 pm
i agree that god is moving and speaking through us and sometimes there are moments where even a strangers words were just what you needed to hear. one of the most beautiful experiences is playing witness to the harmonious moment of both inner and outer.
hearing guides. well... that's all in perspective. i've only rarely heard physical words like my name being whispered or things that don't make immediate sense. see guidance in dreams, sight and the waking life. through impulse or gentle nudges that steer you towards a hearts direction

perhaps we're always communicating with God and our guides but have only a limited awareness that leaves us questioning- how often, how much, in what manner. from the smallest to the largest, communication is happening 24/7 ALL is divine whether you acknowledge it as such or not.
the beauty of it is in the interpretation of the individual and the life he or she lives through out.


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 15, 2015 04:32 pm
How much thought have you given to speaking with spiritual guides? How do we know they are responding and it is not our own delusions that we hear?

Recently i have spent sometime with a friend who has had quite a life altering set of circumstances through contact with extra terrestials. i have seen a lot of change in her life and that is evidence of those stories.


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: SpiritImage on Jun 15, 2015 07:38 pm
Recently i have spent sometime with a friend who has had quite a life altering set of circumstances through contact with extra terrestials. i have seen a lot of change in her life and that is evidence of those stories.

Why are they being called extraterrestrials? What were the contact details?


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 16, 2015 07:24 am
Recently i have spent sometime with a friend who has had quite a life altering set of circumstances through contact with extra terrestials. i have seen a lot of change in her life and that is evidence of those stories.

Why are they being called extraterrestrials? What were the contact details?

Some people like to keep such experiences private. I myself am not the type. However they have many reasons for this as an example; unless they know the person very well they do not want to talk on the internet or phone about this. Too much information to share with the entire world or NSA. For some reason I have had several people confide in me about such experiences.




Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: SpiritImage on Jun 16, 2015 08:32 am
Well you certainly can expect some readers out here to be curious when you say things like that.  :-[


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 16, 2015 08:42 am
Well you certainly can expect some readers out here to be curious when you say things like that.  :-[


Well the fact is when i saw your interest i asked her about giving information and that was the response i got.  :-\  i think it is good to have a natural curiosity though.

i asked someone else i know why she would be chosen as someone the aliens would contact. She replied: "Because i think of them a lot"


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: SpiritImage on Jun 16, 2015 08:52 am
Well the fact is when i saw your interest i asked her about giving information and that was the response i got.  :-\  i think it is good to have a natural curiosity though.

i asked someone else i know why she would be chosen as someone the aliens would contact. She replied: "Because i think of them a lot"

Well it sure is funny that it seems every time I hone in on the goods, they're mostly never delivered. Makes you wonder. Not that I don't believe you/her. I guess I'll just wait around for my own experience. Where's the whistling emoticon?


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 16, 2015 01:38 pm
Well the fact is when i saw your interest i asked her about giving information and that was the response i got.  :-\  i think it is good to have a natural curiosity though.

i asked someone else i know why she would be chosen as someone the aliens would contact. She replied: "Because i think of them a lot"

Well it sure is funny that it seems every time I hone in on the goods, they're mostly never delivered. Makes you wonder. Not that I don't believe you/her. I guess I'll just wait around for my own experience. Where's the whistling emoticon?

I have told you about my experience with UFOs. But this is a more involved. To me though it is not a matter of belief. Sometimes you can see the change in people. That is if you have known them through the years. It is interesting though we imagine this material reality to be very true but take for granted that what Paramahansa Yogananda said is true when we are asked to imagine the possibilities or at least prove them to ourselves.

Many people I meet have found my life to be very unusual but how many people are willing to meditate hours a day for most of their lives? Does anyone believe this practice has no results? I'm too practical and in need of 'real' results for that. I think the problem is that people expect too much when the results are already there. Much of it has to do with perception and attitude. If we start seeing the change in ourselves and recognize the help we are receiving we do not get so greedy about 'physical experience'. After all that is what we are used to and so that is what the mind greedily demands. But the experiences of this material reality have always left us some what unsatisfied.

If we look at results in a different light we also improve our chances at having them take on a physical nature. As our guru has declared 'unless ye see signs ye shall not believe.' It is no longer so necessary for me to believe. I just find so many things that happen here so interesting and fascinating that i am entertained much easier by all that is being presented. I think that is what God wanted. Remembering that it is just a short movie and not getting caught up in it.... that is the big challenge.


Title: Re: conversations with spiritual guides
Post by: SpiritImage on Jun 16, 2015 07:54 pm
I know what you're saying, but I also know how it feels to be on the outside looking in as it were. No problem for me, eventually I will get the answers I need, but never hurts to ask.