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Title: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Feb 21, 2016 06:58 am
Comon release the photos!

(http://i930.photobucket.com/albums/ad142/stevehydonus777/Mobile%20Uploads/20160220_020537_zpsosavbjds.jpg)


Title: Re: Meditation Nite
Post by: mccoy on Feb 21, 2016 09:20 pm
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Title: Re: Meditation Nite
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Feb 22, 2016 12:29 am
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Thank You so much mccoy. i believe u are a true scientist. One who does not leave spirituality out as some kind of wishful thinking or superstitious behavior. i wish i could understand all your graphs and scientific models. But i sense someone who is genuinely trying to find the truth without personal bias. I have always read all your posts even though i may not always understand technical points.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite
Post by: mccoy on Feb 22, 2016 11:43 pm
Steve, I'm sorry that I'm not able to write so clearly, I'll have to try and simplify things. What I do usually is to rewrite what I grasped but of course I'm not a perfect explainer.
By the way, I'm not a scientist, lol, I'm a professional who likes scientific topics but has serious voids of knowledge in some subjects (for example, biology).

I'll write more topics on gravitational waves, with some very simple yet effective examples. Again, by writing these things I'm testing my own comprehension of such phenomena.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Mar 28, 2016 06:22 pm
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Hello mccoy i long to see some pictures of the area where you live, exercise and meditate!


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 15, 2016 12:19 am
Thanks steve for the directions to this thread I would have not been able to trace otherwise.
I'm noticing now that I have to use a share site or reduce the image memory, I'll do that ASAP


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 17, 2016 09:18 am
I tried to resize a pic to allowed dimension and attach it directly, an error occurred

an Error Has Occurred!
The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file and/or contact an administrator.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 17, 2016 09:24 am
Now I tried teh flickr sharign site, KK, better off.
I've been living in a rental flat close to the beach from November to March. I enjoyed to run at every hour, day and night, by night with a light on the forehead. Now I'm always in a rental house but mroe inland and had to stop running  because of a knee problem (hope temporary).


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1618/25872276273_633bfe97d7_m.jpg)

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Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 17, 2016 12:08 pm
Thanks steve for the directions to this thread I would have not been able to trace otherwise.
I'm noticing now that I have to use a share site or reduce the image memory, I'll do that ASAP

Where r u tryng to put the picture?


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Apr 18, 2016 01:48 am
I've been living in a rental flat close to the beach from November to March. I enjoyed to run at every hour, day and night, by night with a light on the forehead. Now I'm always in a rental house but mroe inland and had to stop running  because of a knee problem (hope temporary).

I need to get to the beach more.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 18, 2016 12:55 pm
I need to get to the beach more.

Here the truth is pretty sad. On one side you have the beautiful scenery and peace, on the other you have a very polluted sea water (lots of raw sewage gets directly into the sea). My son got ill last year because of swimming where I took the pics. Next year I'll probably have to take him half an hour away from there, where analyses have decen results.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 22, 2016 10:29 pm
I work in a mountain city but live on the coast. So I regualrly commute and drive thru scenic vistas, although it's an everyday sight by now. A couple of snapshots of a valley along the way from 2 different angles.


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Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 22, 2016 10:32 pm
Leon, my American Staffordshire Terrier

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Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 24, 2016 12:50 am
I work in a mountain city but live on the coast. So I regualrly commute and drive thru scenic vistas, although it's an everyday sight by now. A couple of snapshots of a valley along the way from 2 different angles.


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1684/26515439641_3cff93d1b0_m.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1627/26581375755_9eb46ee981_m.jpg)

It is so beautiful. i wonder if u get a chance to stop and meditate or energize somewhere on the way to work or back?


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Apr 24, 2016 10:15 pm
It is so beautiful. i wonder if u get a chance to stop and meditate or energize somewhere on the way to work or back?

There are a few selected places where I sleep and sometimes meditate. In the bottom of that valley there is a small river with crystal-clear water. On one of those slopes there is a very scenic parking place which is almost always empty. Some detours will take me along unpopulated areas and vehicleless roads.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 25, 2016 03:05 am
beautiful pictures, thanks for sharing mccoy


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Apr 26, 2016 01:46 am
There are a few selected places where I sleep and sometimes meditate. In the bottom of that valley there is a small river with crystal-clear water. On one of those slopes there is a very scenic parking place which is almost always empty. Some detours will take me along unpopulated areas and vehicleless roads.

I need to move further out, that's all there is to it.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on May 04, 2016 04:55 pm
Now I tried teh flickr sharign site, KK, better off.
I've been living in a rental flat close to the beach from November to March. I enjoyed to run at every hour, day and night, by night with a light on the forehead. Now I'm always in a rental house but mroe inland and had to stop running  because of a knee problem (hope temporary).


(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1618/25872276273_633bfe97d7_m.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1468/26202255490_a602d590ba_m.jpg)

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Praying for your knee!

Wow is that snow? Do u get very much snow near the ocean in Italy? Your third eye is very brite mccoy! Your dog looks very kind. A candidate for a human incarnation next time around? He looks like he is saying. ' Hey i didn't mean any harm be merciful on me'!

Leon, my American Staffordshire Terrier

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1619/25978240963_d68bbe5b62_m.jpg)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1529/25057420332_df86c3aa79_m.jpg)

Your pictures of u have that responsible serious look! i like them but remember to smile once in a while! (LOL)


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on May 07, 2016 09:12 am
This picture is a view on the Harbour in the vicinities. The wooden structures on stilts visible on the pier are some ancient form of fishing. There was beach accretion here, so some of'em are no more on water.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7681/26258584333_b16afc41c9_b.jpg)

This is the dirt road leading to my home in the hills

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Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: izza sociopath on May 08, 2016 12:15 am
💅💅 Do you have any vacancies available? 😜


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on May 08, 2016 11:06 pm
💅💅 Do you have any vacancies available? 😜

IZZA, sorry but we're fully booked for a while...


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on May 08, 2016 11:18 pm
Praying for your knee!
Wow is that snow? Do u get very much snow near the ocean in Italy? Your third eye is very brite mccoy! Your dog looks very kind. A candidate for a human incarnation next time around? He looks like he is saying. ' Hey i didn't mean any harm be merciful on me'!
Your pictures of u have that responsible serious look! i like them but remember to smile once in a while! (LOL)

Steve, it is alas a known fact that hard tarmac may be not too friendly on runners' knees. I started again tonite but on soft sand. It's more fatiguing, but it also means that I work out more in a smaller time. Knee seems to be all right now, if it keeps like that, I'll run again in 3 days, otherwise I'll wait some more.
Snow on the beach is pretty rare but not unheard of.
True, I don't usually smile in pics!


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Alfred Hitchcock on May 09, 2016 05:27 am
This picture is a view on the Harbour in the vicinities. The wooden structures on stilts visible on the pier are some ancient form of fishing. There was beach accretion here, so some of'em are no more on water.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7681/26258584333_b16afc41c9_b.jpg)

This is the dirt road leading to my home in the hills

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/26795370241_680a3ecc8c_b.jpg)

I am almost certain we could use your property to make a successful film. It will be called the Invasion of The Arachnids. Of course you would get some recognition. Think of the publicity. You know you owe me one. You also owe it to yourself. I don't want to use it against you. I am just asking you to be reasonable.

                                                                     Alfred Hitch


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 02, 2016 12:55 am
I like the plot. The arachnids are coming from thee sea and I fly to the hills. There is no happy ending of course. The arachnids are going to take all the humans and use them maybe as incubators for their eggs. YUK.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 02, 2016 01:08 am
Do you guys like my new little toy???


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: ding dong on Jun 02, 2016 03:20 am
Nice! Watcha gonna do with it?


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 02, 2016 03:30 pm
Nice! Watcha gonna do with it?

I will use it as a convenient nut crusher!


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 19, 2016 12:05 am
This is another toy I just added to the collection.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7394/27720144836_d7c83926b0_b.jpg)


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 19, 2016 02:56 am
McCoy what is the story behind all these big rigs?


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Jun 19, 2016 07:09 am
Do you buy these just for personal use? And here I thought you were just a pencil pusher.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 20, 2016 01:01 pm
Do you buy these just for personal use? And here I thought you were just a pencil pusher.

SI, you guessed correctly in that I'm basically a pencil, or paper pusher. Part of my job though, to answer to Steve's enquiries, is to check on the field some characteristics of rigs financed by the state.
The government agency which employs me will pay 65% of the cost of those rigs (with a max support of 150K US$) if the employer can prove a specific working hazard has been improved. In the above cases, whole body vibrations at the driver's seat turned out to be lower in the new rig with respect to the old one, hence the government, thru our technical bureau, approved the funding. I check that things are regular (there are no frauds) and carry out vibration or noise measurements. New rigs turn out to be pretty much comfy.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Jun 22, 2016 07:08 am

SI, you guessed correctly in that I'm basically a pencil, or paper pusher. Part of my job though, to answer to Steve's enquiries, is to check on the field some characteristics of rigs financed by the state.
The government agency which employs me will pay 65% of the cost of those rigs (with a max support of 150K US$) if the employer can prove a specific working hazard has been improved. In the above cases, whole body vibrations at the driver's seat turned out to be lower in the new rig with respect to the old one, hence the government, thru our technical bureau, approved the funding. I check that things are regular (there are no frauds) and carry out vibration or noise measurements. New rigs turn out to be pretty much comfy.

So help me understand, the italian government will pay 65% of the bill for expensive machinery, if the rig it's replacing has a "health hazard" of whole body vibration? How can that possibly be determined to be too much based on who's body being vibrated? There must be guidelines on how to operate equipment safely, example, you wouldn't want to run a jackhammer for a couple hours straight with no break. Must've been from a complaint or a hospital bill? It just reminds me of how when I worked for the state how cash was being handled.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 22, 2016 10:24 pm
SI, this strategy has started out a few years ago to reward the companies who improve the health & safety conditions at work. Of course the funding is limited, so there is a struggle for it, whose 1st step is speed in sending the electronic request online at a fixed deadline. The winners are determined within a 10-seconds interval from the opening of the server.
The funding is limited to a max of about 150000 US$ and may be bestowed to any technically consistent project: improving vibrations, noise, exposure to airborne chemicals, safety and so on.
In the cited vibrations case, there are standards ruling the whole aspect. The company must measure Whole body vibrations at the driver's seat, according to specific standards, in the old machine. The same must be done in the new machine and must be lower than the old one. I go and carry out an independent measurement to check that the company is not cheating. If everything is all right, the government agency will refund the company 65% of the bill . The latest place where I went was a limestone quarry, pretty dusty, prosaic and unglamorous. But I'm far more interested in a dusty, stony quarry than in watching TV shows or watching soccer matches.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 25, 2016 11:10 pm
Sometimes I go and work in more poetical places than the overly prosaic quarries. Like this on top of a small mountain basin.
Although, to tell the truth, there is a big quarry opposite this view.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7101/27868428736_bb60140205_m.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7449/27868426526_5e7643d2c0_b.jpg)



Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Jun 26, 2016 12:55 am
And what's the name of that little town?


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: tides2dust on Jun 26, 2016 09:02 am
hello mccoy !

Your pictures look amazing. Ty for sharing.

It seems you have quite a talent as well.

Cheers!  :)


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 26, 2016 06:49 pm
There r many wild flowers in the foreground and quite a view in the background. i can only imagine that there would b many nice places to meditate there if there r not abusive people who believe it is their land and u should keep off. (some people think the sky above them is their's as well.) It helps to have a visual view of where u live mccoy. i may never get there this life but we have virtual reality today in some of our technology. it is a wonder that brings people together and also it has separated those who cannot or will not adapt to it. Although your pictures r not yet three-dimensional graphics, it may come to that point soon. It is wonderful that u have found a way to use your observational skills to serve your country and have been blessed to b given a chance to do it.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 27, 2016 12:06 am
And what's the name of that little town?

SI, it's called 'Cagnano Amiterno', very unlikely you've heard about it before


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 27, 2016 12:19 am
I'm glad you guys like this kind of pics, actually I have a load of'em, usually places where I carried out geotechnical investigations.
Those are pretty far away from the place where I live, a couple of hours driving. This is another one from the bottom of teh valley previously displayed. Steve, the places higher up are very good to meditate, they usually are nto private porperty so you can meditate there as long as you wish.



Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 27, 2016 12:25 am
More on their way: a quaint village in an isolated area. Those are pics to be used in technical reports, not artistic ones but they give an idea of the urban environment



Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 27, 2016 12:35 am
I'm just randomly picking from the lot



Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 27, 2016 12:46 am
Last batch for tonight. Some pics are attractive in their uglyness.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 27, 2016 05:19 am
I'm just randomly picking from the lot



Happy ☺ to see u r sharing so much with us about your life in Italy.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Jun 28, 2016 07:29 am
And what's the name of that little town?

SI, it's called 'Cagnano Amiterno', very unlikely you've heard about it before

Now I have. Will be visiting Italy next year I think, who knows, maybe I'll retire in a town like this.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jun 28, 2016 10:57 pm
SI, to call it town is a gross overestimation. 'Mountain village' would be more pertinent. There are of course prettier places, in my region and above all in Tuscany, although out there prices by now are unaffordable with the possible exception of celebrities.

Actually my region was a very poor place (many immigrants in America are from Abruzzo) , so villages tend to be uglish. The mountain town where I work, which was pretty, has been destroyed by an earthquake in 2009.
Also, let me know if you need any tips about places, and if you come nearby we can go out and get drunk together. lol. With freshly squeezed fruit juices of course.
Probably the best small town is Pescocostanzo, this is a nice picture gallery on youtube.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/budoFIoNYUE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

By the way, anyone knows how to embed youtube vids in this forum?


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: SI on Jun 29, 2016 05:00 am
The picture gallery is cool, the Mountain Village as you call it seems so removed from where I sit.

The first button on the left, insert flash, should just be able to click that then paste your link inside the tags. Preview will not show it as embed, only actual posting, for me anyways.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jul 17, 2016 11:34 am
Thanks SI, I'm going to try that out.
This is a pic snapped from the road leading home. Typical Italian coastal hillside. On the background you can see the coastal town, then the Adriatic sea. 250 cliks further we'll come across the coast of Croatia.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/8559/28326681266_66ff0558d1_k.jpg)


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jul 17, 2016 11:39 am
Another day, another toy!! They can load decent amounts of sand.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7632/28268554646_7c85be905e_k.jpg)

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Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 18, 2016 12:53 am
Not sure about the 'toys' but really enjoy the pictures of u and the beautiful open countryside in Italy that u provided. The topography is quite different then this part of the U.S. lots of rippling rolling hills, mountains and there and open spaces. We have many more tress here... so it seems. Many forests. We could use some of that sand at small lakes in Michigan. It would be much more comfy on the feet... knowing what u r stepping into!

Jai Guru


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jul 18, 2016 01:43 pm
...We have many more tress here... so it seems. Many forests. We could use some of that sand at small lakes in Michigan. It would be much more comfy on the feet... knowing what u r stepping into!

Steve, in Italy woods and forrests are usually much smaller than the ones in America, the larger ones are located within national parks (there are many here). Oftentimes the sand is used even here to feed the natural beaches, which can be subject to severe erosion. Many beaches are becoming narrower or are disappearing. The cause is the past exploitation of riverbeds (no more allowed), the building of dams, the possible, slow rise in sea level.

The beach is no longer the oen I remember when a young boy: wide expanse of clear and clean sand likewise clear and clean water. Now it's narrower, the sand is polluted by silt, the water is polluted by human fecal matter plus industrial wastes.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jul 18, 2016 01:44 pm
...We have many more tress here... so it seems. Many forests. We could use some of that sand at small lakes in Michigan. It would be much more comfy on the feet... knowing what u r stepping into!

Steve, in Italy woods and forrests are usually much smaller than the ones in America, the larger ones are located within national parks (there are many here). Oftentimes the sand is used even here to feed the natural beaches, which can be subject to severe erosion. Many beaches are becoming narrower or are disappearing. The cause is the past exploitation of riverbeds (no more allowed), the building of dams, the possible, slow rise in sea level.

The beach is no longer the one I remember as a young boy: wide expanse of clear and clean sand likewise clear and clean water. Now it's narrower, the sand is polluted by silt, the water is polluted by human fecal matter plus industrial wastes. I used to swim offshore for long distances. I would no longer dare it now.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 20, 2016 08:14 am
...We have many more tress here... so it seems. Many forests. We could use some of that sand at small lakes in Michigan. It would be much more comfy on the feet... knowing what u r stepping into!

Steve, in Italy woods and forrests are usually much smaller than the ones in America, the larger ones are located within national parks (there are many here). Oftentimes the sand is used even here to feed the natural beaches, which can be subject to severe erosion. Many beaches are becoming narrower or are disappearing. The cause is the past exploitation of riverbeds (no more allowed), the building of dams, the possible, slow rise in sea level.

The beach is no longer the one I remember as a young boy: wide expanse of clear and clean sand likewise clear and clean water. Now it's narrower, the sand is polluted by silt, the water is polluted by human fecal matter plus industrial wastes. I used to swim offshore for long distances. I would no longer dare it now.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/los-angeles-sewage-spill-shuts-down-ocean-20-173039331.html?nhp=1

We must constantly let the public know the damage that more and more people are doing to our earth and its oceans and sky.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jul 20, 2016 11:02 am
Steve, something similar happened here last year, on a far smaller scale. Theoretically, an efficient management of waste products should allow good sanitation even in crowded areas.

Point is that, as the facts confirm:

1- In Italy there is often no efficiency at all, just incompetence and inertia
2- In America it may be different (probably it depends on different places). The LA case though was an example of how unstable the system can be. It is not possible to make the system perfectly proof against accident, earthquakes or a floods


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 25, 2016 12:29 am
...We have many more tress here... so it seems. Many forests. We could use some of that sand at small lakes in Michigan. It would be much more comfy on the feet... knowing what u r stepping into!

Steve, in Italy woods and forrests are usually much smaller than the ones in America, the larger ones are located within national parks (there are many here). Oftentimes the sand is used even here to feed the natural beaches, which can be subject to severe erosion. Many beaches are becoming narrower or are disappearing. The cause is the past exploitation of riverbeds (no more allowed), the building of dams, the possible, slow rise in sea level.

The beach is no longer the oen I remember when a young boy: wide expanse of clear and clean sand likewise clear and clean water. Now it's narrower, the sand is polluted by silt, the water is polluted by human fecal matter plus industrial wastes.

It is nice to hear that these big earth movers can serve a positive function. Usually i see them used to plow away wetlands, natural habitats and forests and then come the strip malls, houses and artificial edifices.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Jul 28, 2016 11:41 pm
There is not presently such a negative connotation in Italy. Wetlands and forrests are protected, although in the sixties and seventies developments have ruined many nice places. In the town where I live they let builders build on the beach. This must be one of the uglier coastal towns in Italy, you walk by the beach and see just houses. We've had our lot of incredibly greed and obtuse politicians. Still have them unfortunately. 


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 30, 2016 06:16 am
There is not presently such a negative connotation in Italy. Wetlands and forrests are protected, although in the sixties and seventies developments have ruined many nice places. In the town where I live they let builders build on the beach. This must be one of the uglier coastal towns in Italy, you walk by the beach and see just houses. We've had our lot of incredibly greed and obtuse politicians. Still have them unfortunately. 

Some day i hope to see beaches open to everyone. We have lakes here in Michigan that the public cannot even get to because of ownership. It is a white mans invention. The Native Indians who lived here before us could not understand the concept.


Title: Re: Meditation Nite/Photos/mccoy/hydonus
Post by: mccoy on Aug 01, 2016 12:50 am
We have similar situations here in Italy. Some stretches of beach, although being property of the State, are not accessible since they have been 'rented' to private owners (hotels or resorts) who block the access roads with gates. It happens where the beaches are located in between a rocky coast. Otherwise the access is usually free.

I never heard about private lakes, unless they are small lakes built by the land owners themselves in their properties.