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Title: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Nov 18, 2016 03:33 am
Fake News from Infra Wars

steve, taken from our discussions on climate change i was going to respond here,
These people have no plan for climate change. I see no plan at all. Yet they make their career ridiculing people who do. Of course we want to limit nuclear power plants as well. Wasn't it I who had all the info on Fukushima? The question is where do we start? These people on infowars do not want to start anywhere. Therefore they are proponents of cooking our planet. They are one step worst; they ridicule all the attempts made by environmentalists to do anything. They are like Nero playing his fiddle while Rome burned. They entertain themselves with satire while they watch the earth being destroyed and people are dumb enough to pay the linings of their pockets by listening. These are the dregs of our civilization who will take it to devastating climate conditions because of their own greed and need to satisfy short term comforts. They are the dregs of civilization. They will leave their problems to the generation now demonstrating on campuses who would like to have a future for themselves. No doubt when climatic changes get overwhelming people who support Trump and infowars speakers will also say 'oh I was just joking'. If you make a mistake; own it and fix it. Don't rationalize and make excuses.

infowars is just another source for news. does MSNBC solve crimes or report them? just news friend. now infowars has been blacklisted as fake news.  :D heh. i wonder why?

Very simple; i will give an example Eric and this is from my own observation...no one else's. After finding the info to validate my concerns I found articles to reaffirm them; you posted a video from infa wars about regulating cow farts. Yes indeed i listened to the whole video but it is false news. They have a law in California (not the United States) regulating methane levels from manure which is not car farts. Sorry folks but this is very fake news from infa wars.

https://thinkprogress.org/california-super-pollutant-law-a71f30642543#.jduew7jbj

Hey Art,

I watched infowars today and thought it was funny to find the same article you posted up on seaweed reducing cow farts in their video. I think taxing major corporations for carbon emissions may spur ingenious energy alternative solutions i still don't know the practicality of it all or the willingness for individuals to be taxed. I also thought the article on the cow farts was pretty awesome lol but again don't know how economical this solution is.

https://youtu.be/dsxUO7tz-ps


Also, being a potent greenhouse gas, water vapor will further accelerate warming of the Arctic. ... On a 10-year timescale, methane causes more warming than carbon dioxide. Unlike carbon dioxide, methane's Global Warming Potential rises as more of it is released.

So let's clear up the fake news;

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/229567-epa-unveils-first-methane-regulations

This is what infra wars calls cow farts and is thus guilty of false news;

Methane (CH4): Methane is emitted during the production and transport of coal, natural gas, and oil. Methane emissions also result from livestock and other agricultural practices and by the decay of organic waste in municipal solid waste landfills.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Dec 12, 2016 06:55 pm
https://youtu.be/kvqnKJhLH1w

and the article from the guardian mentioned briefly in the video above:
Stop worrying about fake news. What comes next will be much worse
Jonathan Albright

"In the not too distant future, technology giants will decide what news sources we are allowed to consult, and alternative voices will be silenced"

from, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/09/fake-news-technology-filters

on the countering disinformation act:
Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act is a bipartisan bill, introduced to the 114th United States Congress to respond to propaganda and disinformation. The bill was initially titled as the Countering Information Warfare Act.

The bipartisan legislation was written in March 2016 by U.S. Senators Republican Rob Portman and Democrat Chris Murphy. It was additionally introduced in the United States House of Representatives in a bipartisan fashion; co-sponsors included Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger and Democrat Ted Lieu.

In both the House and Senate the bill was included in the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2017. It passed the House in this fashion in a conference report vote on December 2, 2016. The Senate then passed the measure in a conference report on December 8 — by a tally of 92-7.

from, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countering_Foreign_Propaganda_and_Disinformation_Act


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 13, 2016 11:10 am
Comon' Eric He claims that Clinton funded Al Qaeda and ISIS What kind of news is this? It's not even worth listening to. I had to stop after that and some flimsy accusations with no substance. I already explained in detail the false news from infowars about methane. You did not respond. Let's move on. This man is a waste of energy. Every time I listen to him he says something else foolish. The latest about Clinton was an out right lie.

Remember I was againt the war from the beginning. I voted for Bernie Sanders. But to lie about Clinton is despicable. She and Trump have both supported crushing ISIS. Not only that but Alex accuses Clinton of being responsible with ISIS for funding war crimes. He took a quote out of context and construed it to mean Clinton supported ISIS. It was one sentence that did not even mention ISIS. Clinton was just saying that the the United States at one time supported the people who are now our enemies. She is correct. This is a serious concern about the mideast and our relation to it. It is a result of misplaced priorities of the United States. That is one of the main causes of this happening. At one time the U.S. supported Iraq when they were against Iran. This is just getting to be too cumbersome to have to research Alex Jones numerous false statements. He totally misunderstood or worst yet lied about what Clinton said.

Quite frankly I can not keep up with you and your bogus news when you fail to respond to what I have already explained that were false news. Eric; You are not engaging in conversation but rather constant attact. Respond to my points or you are only attacting. People that speak of differences in views usually listen to what another has said and then respond. I have done so. Your method lacks response and only continues attacts. In this case about Clinton and the last one about methane their was no validity in the attacts and I spend a lot of time explaining. It is a waste of time for me to continue to respond to attacts with no conversation from you in these political matters.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/19/politics/hillary-clinton-isis-speech/index.html


Title: Censorship and Freedom of Speech
Post by: tides2dust on Dec 13, 2016 11:59 pm
Hello Steve. Thank you for your reply. Hopefully my reply will clear the air since it is not my intention to attack by sharing opinions and idea's here on your forum. My goal in sharing the views expressed from InfoWars is indeed to discuss my findings on censorship and what it might mean for the future. This thread titled fake news started from the conversation below,
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In the aftermath of Trumps surprising win people have been scrambling to make sense of what happened. Facebook has now come under the scrutiny for facilitating the spread of fake news stories in the weeks preceding the election.

(http://callahanweb.xyz/_img/fake-news.PNG)

The hypothesis is that a proliferation of patently false news stories trending on facebook may have helped to swing the election in Trump's favor. We will very likely hear more about social media companies taking efforts to crack down on "fake news". Google and Facebook have already issued statements with their intentions to do that.

http://fusion.net/story/370735/edward-snowden-facebook-fake-news/
https://www.cnet.com/news/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-fake-news-affect-election-techonomy-donald-trump-crazy/



As Zuckerberg said in a facebook, they have to be very careful in being the arbiters of "truth". A sentiment I agree with. What do you think is a company like facebook's role in something like this?


This "Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act" to me seems in direct conflict with freedom of speech.

"Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction.[1][2][3][4] The term freedom of expression is sometimes used synonymously, but includes any act of seeking, receiving and imparting information or ideas, regardless of the medium used."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

Should we be concerned the government wants to "train" journalist? I found the video below very interesting as did millions of other viwers. These alternative sources open up the discussion by bringing corruption to the fore. Not once did I ask you to agree but I question this attempt at censorship and what it may mean for us down the road.
https://youtu.be/31Kx55LIAws


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 14, 2016 01:47 am
U have a small link with Snowden talking. I often listen to him with interest because he is in Russia but is a U.S. citizen. It seems like he would be able to see news with a different perspective not bring a part of just U.S. news but being able to see it from a Russian view as well. I would think that mccoy might see our culture with some perspective as well... coming from a different culture.

I am glad to see you have come up with news from other sources in your last post. I find infowar very inaccurate and quite often hostile and aggressive in its approach. I know you like that network but by the lies I have already heard from them I am very reluctant to even spend much time at any of their videos. I am interested in any news sources other then infowar. I think we should remember that to think of climate change as something mustered up by the media is  falicy. Most all the major scientists today agree that this is not true and it is their view that we are at a critical time in the history of mankind.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: ding dong on Dec 14, 2016 09:30 am
I sympathize with Eric's concerns about censorship. But I also understand the problem which they are trying to address. It is a complex issue. I think we should err on the side of free speech, of course. But the concern is mostly about another country trying to manipulate the population with propaganda, as in the case of Russia potentially trying to influence this current election. And then there's the simple dumbing down of people which has far reaching effects. Should media outlets be allowed to practice unchecked lying and propaganda? I mean, no news source is going to be 100% accurate. News outlets are operated by human beings and mistakes will get made; bias will creep in. This is why, more than anything else in my opinion, we need a renaissance of critical thinking.

Here is an example of the effects of fake news. It unfortunately endangers real people's lives. And yes, this story about the child rape ring/pizza shop was run by infowars who caught heat after this incident and, I believe, removed the video (not before I saw it!).

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/us/edgar-welch-comet-pizza-fake-news.html?_r=0

It is going to be hard to legislate intellectual and journalistic integrity I'm afraid. And I can appreciate concerns that legislation like this (I haven't read it) might become a tool for an oppression and tyranny.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: ding dong on Dec 14, 2016 09:42 am
Okay, someone has uploaded the pizzagate video back onto YouTube but I believe (could be wrong) that it has been removed from infowar's main channel. In this video you can see the way they use suggestions and imagery to influence you the viewer while actually leaving the question open ended (but the conclusion is drawn through the power of suggestion). Now you can see how a young man might watch this and grab his gun to go save some kids. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-1YdgrgtnQ


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: ding dong on Dec 14, 2016 09:56 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2FWtELWUS0


Title: Alex Jones and Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 14, 2016 12:05 pm
Since we have so many videos of this man (not my choice) on our site I would like to express my concern and observations about him. I have seen journalists on his site that are openly hostile. Since these are my own personal observations about him I moved them with more details under 'Freedom to Express.'


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Dec 14, 2016 08:10 pm
Hi Brock,

Mainstream media has been caught faking news on more then one occasion and the concern is not just an outside influence as much as it is corruption in all aspects. There are also countless examples of unstable people reacting to the news when on many occasions, our own networks aims to perpetuate fear and violence for personal gain. Having the freedom to question our governments motifs and express ones concern is protected under the first amendment. The government has been caught lying before but wishes to be the ultimate deciding factor when it comes to alternative media's expressing their own views.

When asked, why is freedom of speech important?

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In areas of the world where freedom of speech is not protected, citizens are afraid to speak out against their government, even when it acts illegally, for fear of being locked away in a cell for life. According to the University of Virginia, historically, men, women and even some children were put to death for daring to speak out against a tyrannical monarch, an unjust parliament or legislature or even a powerful corporation.
Taken from,
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/freedom-speech-important-84e52a68cd531b83#


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 14, 2016 08:50 pm
Eric i apologize if i am interupting your conversation directed at Brock. We find false information in mainstream media as well as alternative media--  Brock and i have showed you this with infowars and you have brought up points about mainstream media. Yet you (Eric) are right about one thing in particular; we must watch that this freedom of speech is never expunged from us. You have that freedom to bring any news source you wish at spiritualportal. Unlike other forums and sites we have encountered in the past. It is really up to us to find out what is true and what is not; not our government or any 'class of people' .... and that is what we are doing here at the Portal. We have that free expression here. We have had people here who have censored us on other sites and have taken us off those sites and have tried to censore others here as well. We have managed to not allow this to happen. We must all be aware and alert that 'Brave New World' does not start here or in America.

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, ensuring that there is no prohibition on the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble, or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that constitute the Bill of Rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: ding dong on Dec 15, 2016 12:57 am
I think we can more or less agree on this topic. The benefits of free speech and open inquiry are many. However, while free speech is recognized, there are some nuances and caveats. I am pretty sure your right to yell fire in a movie theater is still not protected. There are also apparently laws relating to slander, such that you can get sued for your speech. The yelling of fire in a theater is probably a good example here, though. Media companies are basically amplifiers for whatever passes through them. How much responsibility do companies like Facebook have for the information that passes through them? I am not sure. I'm definitely not inclined to want Mark Zuckerburg, or an algorithm for that matter, deciding what is fit for me to read.

But again - it's not black and white. Consider the cost of attention. Our attention is now a scarce resource compared to the amount of information there is to consume. We simply don't have time to examine every single article and counter-article during a news cycle. The best we can do is try to calibrate our minds to pick up on a more or less truthy narrative and decide what to read and believe based on that. Critical thinking and intelligence are necessary for that. But it won't make us perfect. You'll get some shit wrong sometimes and be mislead on occasion. The best we can hope for is to reduce that by training ourselves to think as clearly as possible. This means being honest with ourselves about our own biases and gaps of knowledge.

How can we really make the best possible life for ourselves if we are delusional?

Oh well, I have to run for now.



Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 15, 2016 05:50 am
I think we can more or less agree on this topic. The benefits of free speech and open inquiry are many. However, while free speech is recognized, there are some nuances and caveats. I am pretty sure your right to yell fire in a movie theater is still not protected. There are also apparently laws relating to slander, such that you can get sued for your speech. The yelling of fire in a theater is probably a good example here, though. Media companies are basically amplifiers for whatever passes through them. How much responsibility do companies like Facebook have for the information that passes through them? I am not sure. I'm definitely not inclined to want Mark Zuckerburg, or an algorithm for that matter, deciding what is fit for me to read.

But again - it's not black and white. Consider the cost of attention. Our attention is now a scarce resource compared to the amount of information there is to consume. We simply don't have time to examine every single article and counter-article during a news cycle. The best we can do is try to calibrate our minds to pick up on a more or less truthy narrative and decide what to read and believe based on that. Critical thinking and intelligence are necessary for that. But it won't make us perfect. You'll get some shit wrong sometimes and be mislead on occasion. The best we can hope for is to reduce that by training ourselves to think as clearly as possible. This means being honest with ourselves about our own biases and gaps of knowledge.

How can we really make the best possible life for ourselves if we are delusional?

Oh well, I have to run for now.



I am glad to see your response Brock because if we have total free speech it means we would allow terrorist planning activities here which I do not think any of us would agree with. I think we would have to talk it over in admin if things got really strange. So we might ask the same thing of the government; where and when do they draw the line?


Title: Having someone else decide for you hinders growth
Post by: tides2dust on Dec 16, 2016 03:33 am
Hi Brock,

Thanks for your reply. Something you said at the end of your post really helped me understand how I feel about this censorship attempt.

The best we can do is try to calibrate our minds to pick up on a more or less truthy narrative and decide what to read and believe based on that. Critical thinking and intelligence are necessary for that. ... The best we can hope for is to reduce that by training ourselves to think as clearly as possible. This means being honest with ourselves about our own biases and gaps of knowledge.

Having someone else decide what is real and what is not denies the individual the right to exercise critical thinking and breeds laziness. If Facebook is banning alternative view's because it is not in line with the "truth" does that necessarily make it Truth? If the government has been caught lying before but wishes to be the final say, is this really in favor of protecting the innocent? Innocence and meekness are not the same although it seems some of our own politicians and people of authority view the masses this way.

Decent and mature individuals don't yell fire in a theater if there is no fire. Yet, a person should have the freedom to express their opinion and beliefs and if it's bull shit it usually doesn't hold up. Banning "fake news" is taking away your right to call something BS if that's what it is.

Steve I know you're tired of these videos but I find this relevant to our discussion:
https://youtu.be/xMX4NmCJGm0


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Dec 27, 2016 07:01 pm
https://youtu.be/8iLpKPK2ZdA



Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jan 07, 2017 07:28 pm
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3851620.jpg)

(https://pics.onsizzle.com/fake-news-do-you-mean-like-the-gentle-giant-peaceful-8745625.png)


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jan 11, 2017 07:23 am
The same sources that would be said to stand against fake news in order to defend true journalism are the same networks spreading Donald trumps "golden showers" claim because that's really what the people care about...

https://youtu.be/Oq90Oqb_0Kc


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jan 13, 2017 07:59 pm
Has CNN lost credibility to the public eye? More importantly, who else will follow?
https://youtu.be/N9kgN_pk0F8


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jan 13, 2017 08:47 pm
Has CNN lost credibility to the public eye? More importantly, who else will follow?

I totally disagree with that assessment. Fox news released a report in support of CNN. It seems as though we are no longer allowed to answer allegations with Trumpster. If you are going to accuse someone of something in a news conference as Trump did.... You should at least be able to reply back. Furthermore we are still not sure what is the truth about this hacking business. It is quite interesting indeed that Trumpster said the elections were being treated unfairly but then when he gets in the white house he claims that all this talk about unfairness in the elections is 'garbage'. I now listen to CNN regularly. Trumpster lost credibility by supression of a journalist in a news conference. If someone is accused of something shouldn't they at least be able to respond. Due process will not be a part of Trumpsters plans.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jan 13, 2017 10:05 pm
Steve, Trump is responding to his critics and the network that completely trashed and soiled his character with proven-false allegations. With most Press conference's reporters are invited into the speakers domain and during Q and A selected by the speaker to answer question's. This gentlemen not only showed a lack of respect but acted more as a heckler while it wasn't even his turn to speak. Trumps reaction was in response to BuzzFeed spreading an unverified report that Russia planned to blackmail Trump for his Golden Shower fetish. Information that had been obtained in late 2016 admitted by sen. John Mccain saying he released the information to the head of FBI. Maybe in an effort to spur ratings networks like BuzzFeed and mentions of CNN decide to spread the unverified garbage while others who've reportedly had the same information *for some time* withheld, doing so because of lack of evidence. Trump praised freedom of press and journalistic integrity in the same conference. Even President Obama responds to his critics and has tried to discredit the Fox news network during his campaign...

“I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls,” Obama told liberal journalist Matt Bai of the New York Times Magazine. -Oct. 2008

Or even blaming Fox network for Trumps win,

... After Trump’s successful win on election day, Obama blamed Fox News for Democrats losing elections because of “Fox News in every bar and restaurant in big chunks of the country.”
http://townhall.com/columnists/calebparke/2017/01/12/did-mainstream-media-forget-how-obama-treated-fox-news-n2270406

Simply search, "Obama's Best Comebacks" or, "Obama owns disrespectful journalist" Where headliners show favor of Barack Obama shutting down Journalist that lack respect the same way Trumps actions are calling this subject into light...

Your very question, "if someone gets accused of something shouldn't they be able to respond?" That's exactly what Trump is doing after being viciously attacked time and time again.

Despite sufficient evidence of staged events and political bias you'd still place your trust in the network? What about the video evidence presented by Project Veritas of rigging the election by the DNC? The corruption is all over the place...

So Trump shuts down a heckler and rather then focus on "journalistic integrity", fact checking or questioning the corruption by mainstream media the focus is instead placed on Trumps "uncalled for" reaction responding to an unruly reporter in a similar manner as Obama and those before him...

More from Shepard Smith defending CNN,
https://youtu.be/gSQIPyA51Dg


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jan 14, 2017 12:35 am
Yes that is exactly why I said that someone from Fox defended the CNN reporter. Because FoxNetwork is known to be Trump biased and supported him. Anybody is considered 'unruly' if they do not agree with Trump. Donald Trump used the press conference to ruin someone else's reputation and did not allow them to defend themselves. This is the mark of a tyrant. We still do not know if there was corruption used by the Russian government. The intelligence community in the United States government cannot even carry their work out without being censored by Trumpster. Trump was out of place at his first press conference and unruly using it to defame the media who just reported events unfolding that he did not want to hear. He is an autocrat. Donald Trump has supressed any media coverage to find out. This is tyranny! We are very fortunate to have networks reporting all the news and not just what Trumpster wants us to hear! Who can believe Trumpster? He is a blatant liar. The fake news happens when he opens his mouth. It is well documented he has repeatedly lied and cannot be trusted.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jan 14, 2017 02:58 am
The press conference was not about what happened at the very end... It was not to defame the media as you so believe although good will come of it. He even gave praise to freedom of press and to mature journalism thanking those that did not spread stupid piss fetish allegations. There was more to his conference then the heckling reporter who was never called on. Trump was not out of place to respond by giving his opinion nor Obama when he would tell reporters, "don't forget you're in my house" or belittle the Fox news network. It's as you once said, criticism comes with the territory. Just as you relentlessly defame soon to be President Trump and call him a tyrant, so have others called President's before him- commy, autocrat, dictator you name it. They said it was the end of the world, you're no different then those who believe Obama is an evil man.

Let's get back to the topic though... Fake News...

Here we have "well documented" cases made against major corporations who own many of the "main stream" media outlets that suppress, alter and spread completely false narratives for personal gain. This is the same corruption and tyrant philosophy you pin on president elect Trump. Can we not agree that the evidence presented against these networks are certainly worthy of our attention? To question the oppressors, the already corrupt systems that would rather be the ultimate say- what is Truth and what is Fake news?

Yes, we are very fortunate for the freedom of press. Fortunate for independent media's and for reporters who make noble effort to dig for the truth, check their sources and fortunate to witness those brave enough to expose falsehoods.

The topic here is not just about the man you hate, it's about the entity before him.


Title: Trump Fake News Incorporated
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jan 14, 2017 03:30 am
Trump Fake News Incorporated (with halarious lies to boot)

My point is that Donald Trump's news is fake so what right has he to call anyone out on it. Especially when they are just trying to find out about what the Russians did. I have seen no conclusive report yet. But Trump put the issue to rest by allowing us to believe there is no report. Ofourse there isn't for him because he got elected. So any news he feels doesnt benefit him is fake although he himself is the biggest liar of all and has created the worst fake news.

Do you really think I am going to listen to a long press conference to a man who tells fake news? Is it worth giving a liar and someone who defames others an audience?


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Feb 02, 2017 05:08 pm
I wonder why some of these media platforms vilify her or make personal attacks on her twitter feed when all she's doing is asking for Peace?

Not sure what you are reading Eric but i read this and found what you are saying is not to be said about CNN a world news agency (and Atlantic) with much more credibility then infra wars (from my perspective)  which is a two bit joornalist organization used to promote their own agenda and not rational news. CNN should be credited with standing up to the intimidation and derogatory belittlement that is a standard behavior of Donald Trump. Tulsi Gabbard was given more then a chance to explain her position in the video as well by CNN. An interesting testimony! It is more likely that Infra Wars is vilifying other media reports (main stream) in an attempt to promote their own political agenda.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/just-back-syria-rep-tulsi-gabbard-brings-message-there-are-no-moderate

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/01/the-organization-that-sent-tulsi-gabbard-to-syria/514763/

Trump and his businesses have screwed over other people:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/01/512928851/trumps-company-loses-lawsuit-filed-by-golf-club-members


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Feb 02, 2017 08:10 pm
CNN is losing their credibility fast. You don't need InfoWars to recognize that.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Feb 02, 2017 10:44 pm
i am neither debating the credibility of news agencies nor asking you to provide proof for anything. So two strikes their my friend. i am merely saying of the several news releases i have found i have not found that any of them vilified Tulsi Gabbard but i did find that Info Wars vilifies other news agencies.

CNN is losing their credibility fast. You don't need InfoWars to recognize that.

Good Evening Eric. The above is your opinion only. i am now listening to cnn since Donald Trump suppressed one of its news agents with demeaning behavior towards them without allowing a reply. We are fortunate to have a news agency that stands up to the lies of Donald Trump and will not cower down to his offensive behavior and language throughout his whole career and his psychopathic lying and perpetual intimidation to anyone disagreeing with him. He may easily be called the worst role model that the United States has ever seen in a leader.

I wonder why some of these media platforms vilify her or make personal attacks on her twitter feed when all she's doing is asking for Peace?

Not sure what you are reading Eric but i read this and found what you are saying is not to be said about CNN a world news agency (and Atlantic) with much more credibility then infra wars (from my perspective). She was given more then a chance to explain her position in the video as well. An interesting testimony! It is more likely that Infra Wars is vilifying other media reports (main stream) in an attempt to promote their own political agenda.


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/just-back-syria-rep-tulsi-gabbard-brings-message-there-are-no-moderate

https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/01/the-organization-that-sent-tulsi-gabbard-to-syria/514763/

Hi Steve,
Good morning. =) I separated your last bit about Trump out of the quote and am replying to your post here to keep it organized. To see Steve's full reply simply click the link and you will be redirected to the original post.

I'm confused, are we debating the credibility of news networks or are you asking me to provide proof that mainstream media has attacked her? Mind you, she went to find out for her self what's going on- to try and get a better understanding of the situation and went in hopes to make Peace.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Feb 03, 2017 01:30 am
Steve, it's not my opinion alone when Americans are chanting CNN sucks. :)

This thread dedicated to "Fake News" has plenty of evidence as to why CNN is an awful network, videos made by others. We are fortunate to have independent agencies that stand up to a bias and hidden agenda. For reporters that will not bow down to their corporate masters when they're told to act according to their will. Where alternative views are heard and not cut off the moment it conflicts with the powers narrative. You may find others describe CNN as a psychopathic lying, perpetually intimidating, manipulating machine. CNN may easily be called one of the worse news network the United States and the World has ever seen.

At least, that's what others seem to think. 


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 02, 2017 02:14 am
https://youtu.be/ZEpsklYENA4

Stop worrying about fake news. What comes next will be much worse
Jonathan Albright

"In the not too distant future, technology giants will decide what news sources we are allowed to consult, and alternative voices will be silenced"

from, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/09/fake-news-technology-filters


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 02, 2017 10:44 am
https://youtu.be/ZEpsklYENA4

Stop worrying about fake news. What comes next will be much worse
Jonathan Albright

"In the not too distant future, technology giants will decide what news sources we are allowed to consult, and alternative voices will be silenced"

from, https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/09/fake-news-technology-filters

This is nothing new to me and these guys are the ones Trump is giving all the tax breaks too!


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 03, 2017 02:27 am
I forgot to add Twitter to the list


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 03, 2017 07:28 am
I forgot to add Twitter to the list

Never had much luck with that site Eric...I guess I just don't know the benefits.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 10, 2017 01:39 am

I like your points and enjoy your paranoia. It brings out the psychiatrist in me. Your conspiracy theories are delightful reading...I don't even have to open up a mystery book!
Thanks for your qualified assessment Doc

 speaking of conspiracy theorist
https://youtu.be/5PY2RgoIIP8

... don't even need to open up a book do ya? Just turn on your TV  :)


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 10, 2017 02:03 am
Eric my friend...I am very fortunate u do not take yourself too seriously....Because sometimes u get me laughing
Hilariously....And it makes me feel good and lighter about myself as well.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: the 10 moods of dr. kook on Apr 10, 2017 09:16 am
This is Doctor Kook here with my professionally unbiased opiates. You see we have in Ericosso a man of most elaborate igeniuty for coming up with fantastic stories from the beyond added to the multiple personalities in our distinguished fearless leader Trumpster we have room for story telling all nite as we see in Ericossos report from MSN. We thank you for such convoluted thinking that comes out of our international leaders. You have done well Ericosso for explaining the intricate thinking of madmen in charge of international affairs. We enjoy your diary of madmen and look forward to the next episode.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 21, 2017 05:30 pm
Lol this right here. Just another example(for better or worse) how Fake news empowers Trump
https://youtu.be/mjzUcQLYpow


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 21, 2017 05:37 pm

Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act is a bipartisan bill, introduced to the 114th United States Congress to respond to propaganda and disinformation. The bill was initially titled as the Countering Information Warfare Act.

The bipartisan legislation was written in March 2016 by U.S. Senators Republican Rob Portman and Democrat Chris Murphy. It was additionally introduced in the United States House of Representatives in a bipartisan fashion; co-sponsors included Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger and Democrat Ted Lieu.

In both the House and Senate the bill was included in the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2017. It passed the House in this fashion in a conference report vote on December 2, 2016. The Senate then passed the measure in a conference report on December 8 — by a tally of 92-7.

from, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countering_Foreign_Propaganda_and_Disinformation_Act

If this wasn't enough, how about the demonetization of alternative media channels on YouTube


https://youtu.be/LIr3KF7lXqs


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 25, 2017 05:17 pm
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58feaec6e4b06b9cb9198b65?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

CEO of Chobani Yogurt. My favorite! He is trying to expose 
'Fake news'.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 26, 2017 07:17 pm
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58feaec6e4b06b9cb9198b65?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

CEO of Chobani Yogurt. My favorite! He is trying to expose 
'Fake news'.

Hi Steve,

Thanks for bringing this obvious publicity stunt to our attention.

https://youtu.be/azhxjxDORU8

If you don't have the time or desire to watch the full segment then fast forward to @30:15 marker for a summary.  :)




Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 27, 2017 01:57 pm
From your video I see no reason to denounce the yogurt maker or any one else that Alex Jones slanders.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 27, 2017 07:51 pm
Hi Steve,

Then don't  :D After watching the video it's clear Alex Jones isn't instigating anything but defending himself against the character assassination(slander) made by MSM and Hamdi Ulukaya. This thread is full of examples where MSM and major corporations try to silence independent medias or forge and stage news to persuade public opinion.

You don't have to like Alex Jones to see that- I'm not big into the petty drama but after you brought it to my attention and I had the opportunity to look at other sides of the story I see there's more going on than just a publicity stunt- thank you once again for your contributions to Fake News.

Cheers!


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 28, 2017 01:15 pm
Alex Jones would not have to defend himself against anything if he hadn't made slanderous statements. He Did instigate this whole fake news story. It wasn't the CEO of Chobani Yogurt that started all this you know. It was Alex Jones and his reckless accusations. Hey Eric wouldn't we say something if somebody else constantly stated how corrupt we were here at spiritualportal?  I mean these people like Trump and Alex Jones have made a career out of ruining the careers of others.  This is true of Trump as well. We have a group of people that are reactionaries in the political landscape. These people constantly disparage, insult and attempt to ruin the career of others. Then they wonder why they are called on it. They should be called out for their low life comments.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 28, 2017 06:29 pm
Hi Steve,

If you look further into this story then you'd know the headliner isn't an accusation it's a fact- nothing fake about the guy bringing in some immigrants who plead guilty to sexual assault but something you said here seems strangely familiar.. it seems most MSM uses sensational headlines and unverified reports which harm others.. there's so much proof- it isn't just one President or one news agency but the whole lot of them...

Our friend was recently arrested for something that never happened. The cop followed my friend home then said he was assaulted by my friends vehicle after he approached him in the driveway. Later that day local news team swarmed his house and recorded the report live, one reporter was seen banging on the front door of the house and the headline read something like, "twice drunk offender harasses police officer, family refuses to answer." Think of the damage here...
what the cop or the media didn't know was the neighbors security camera caught the whole thing on tape- the guy never touched the police officer with his vehicle nor did the police officer test him for alcohol. damages aside, hopefully my friend sues and lands a pretty settlement. Hopefully justice is served to the bully cop but you won't find the people who fabricated and broadcasted the untrue headliner retracting their statement any time soon.

 


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 29, 2017 03:39 pm
You claim it is true. Does that make it true? This man brought in a lot of immigrants many he helped what happened to Alex Jones reports about that? Then we have other people like Donald Trump and Alex Jones who have brought in all kinds of immigrants to overpopulate our nation with people insensitive to the needs of others.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 29, 2017 08:14 pm
Yes. It's a fact they've plead guilty... -_-


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 29, 2017 08:32 pm
Who plead guilty? Not the owner of Chobani Yogurt. You will never see Trump and Alex Jones admitting to overpopulating our planet with immigrants which they are guilty of.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 30, 2017 08:32 am
Once again we see infrawars using sensational news reports-just as Trump does-to demean, belittle, degrade and defame others with differing views. It has been nothing less then a life long career of Donald Trump to destroy the careers and public standing of others with derogatory defamations along with social, gender and ethnic slurs. This is the ugliness of the American people to allow this in the guise of a leader and news agencies who perpetuate and support it. The darkness and negativity of such a man and those who support him is so all pervading to be repulsed by it. He has caused nothing but division in this country. Nothing has equaled it since the Civil War. He is the embodiment of economic division, ecological disaster, gender and ethnic slander. It is imperative to expose the evil and darkness this man represents to the world. Some people are hailed by the public for a time until it is recognized just how much they have helped destroy a nation and the environment of our world. Donald Trump is such a man.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 12:15 pm
Oh look ! It's the boy who cries Trump ^ poor Steve, constantly attacking infowars when it's their network waking so many up to Corporatism. Poor Steve, constantly focused on one man to blame our entire and current state of affairs. Excuse me while I dismiss your arrogance with much laughter/ bwahaha, please enjoy some Chobani yogurt next time you stand on your anti trump podium, it'd be just oh so perfect.  :)


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 12:25 pm
Ah, relief
https://youtu.be/Y6vVFad-DnI


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 12:32 pm
https://youtu.be/b57TfgeYMvk


Title: Fake News Kills
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 12:45 pm
https://youtu.be/0W3Qy_Nmq1I


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 12:49 pm
Eric my friend...I am very fortunate u do not take yourself too seriously....Because sometimes u get me laughing
Hilariously....And it makes me feel good and lighter about myself as well.

Same Steve, same!!  ;D ;D :D :D :D


Title: CNN Very Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 01:21 pm
Rather than make radical claims with no evidence let's witness the exposing of CNN, part 1...
272K views, 5K upvotes and only a near 300 down votes... interesting
https://youtu.be/ZQei9cy8RF8

Part 2 and 3 are so much better. Left up to you to watch

Ah, relief


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Apr 30, 2017 02:14 pm
Oh look ! It's the boy who cries Trump ^ poor Steve, constantly attacking infowars when it's their network waking so many up to Corporatism. Poor Steve, constantly focused on one man to blame our entire and current state of affairs. Excuse me while I dismiss your arrogance with much laughter/ bwahaha, please enjoy some Chobani yogurt next time you stand on your anti trump podium, it'd be just oh so perfect.  :)

Eric your sarcasm does not befit you and certainly weakens your ability to convince others. Making belittling comments about me only exposes the methods which u use to demean others which you have learned from no other then Trump himself and it shows the terrible evil influence he has on his followers. This is why this man must be exposed and the evil influence he represents!
All those who hold office and support his presidency must also be accountable to the ecological disasters ahead of us because of The Trump administrations policies towards mother earth and it's environmental destruction. Each person that has voted for this destruction of the environment holds a share of responsibility for it.

If what you are saying is true why is it that infrawars has supported Trump all thru the election and still does while Trump is the biggest corporate man since Bush and will allow and initiate huge tax breaks for corporations while squeezing out the middle and lower classes and their benefits further making this country an oligarchy and finally a monarchy with the common man becoming serfs of a feudal system.

t has been nothing less then a life long career of Donald Trump to destroy the careers and public standing of others with derogatory defamations along with social, gender and ethnic slurs. This is the ugliness of the American people to allow this in the guise of a leader and news agencies who perpetuate and support it. The darkness and negativity of such a man and those who support him is so all pervading to be repulsed by it. He has caused nothing but division in this country. Nothing has equaled it since the Civil War. He is the embodiment of economic division, ecological disaster, gender and ethnic slander. It is imperative to expose the evil and darkness this man represents to the world. Some people are hailed by the public for a time until it is recognized just how much they have helped destroy a nation and the environment of our world. Donald Trump is such a man.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Apr 30, 2017 06:20 pm
Steve I actually picked it up from you! or did you forget how you've labeled me and tried to poke fun with one of your fanciful forum personalities? Don't like getting it back do ya? There's no convincing you of anything Steve despite substantial evidence. You have yet to concede to the slightest about lying MSM, you constantly find ways to bring Trump into a conversation when we aren't even talking about him. You also make naive claims about infowars which tells me you really don't watch the show or know what you're talking about there- I wonder if you think I'm defending Trump this whole time?? Why else do you constantly bring him up when it isn't always necessary? It's like a conversation about sports then somehow you felt the need to remind me how evil you think Trump is, something you've told me over and over again and your argument will lead you to believe your slander is justified. That is why I will call you the boy who cries Trump.  Im not here to convince you of anything when you don't want to discuss or listen to the other side. So enjoy a dose of your own medicine prescribed by the Kook himself  ;)


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: the 10 moods of dr. kook on May 01, 2017 12:27 am
Steve I actually picked it up from you! or did you forget how you've labeled me and tried to poke fun with one of your fanciful forum personalities? Don't like getting it back do ya? There's no convincing you of anything Steve despite substantial evidence. You have yet to concede to the slightest about lying MSM, you constantly find ways to bring Trump into a conversation when we aren't even talking about him. You also make naive claims about infowars which tells me you really don't watch the show or know what you're talking about there- I wonder if you think I'm defending Trump this whole time?? Why else do you constantly bring him up when it isn't always necessary? It's like a conversation about sports then somehow you felt the need to remind me how evil you think Trump is, something you've told me over and over again and your argument will lead you to believe your slander is justified. That is why I will call you the boy who cries Trump.  Im not here to convince you of anything when you don't want to discuss or listen to the other side. So enjoy a dose of your own medicine prescribed by the Kook himself  ;)

Let us investigate your gripes about me friend first of all I gave up politics a long time ago so I don't have the same trappings as Steve nor you.  I have very little to say about politics. You can remind me if I am wrong. My brain does not quite function as it used to. But if I have made any statements about your politics and made fun of your political views it was by accident. I just don't have time for all the fuss. See where this has got you all? That's why I avoid politics.

                                                                       The Good Old Kook


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on May 01, 2017 02:56 pm
Regardless of what news is being released people will only understand from their own level of perception. Explanations are rather futile if someone does not listen with receptive ears.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on May 02, 2017 12:13 pm
Trump good for business.

Like it or not, I believe Trump calling main stream media "fake news" has stepped everyone's game up(mainstream media and independent networks) and tuned more people in to the political world. Corporate owned media isn't going anywhere. Alternative media is growing in popularity. There is competition here and those with the money stand a better chance. YouTube demonetization, Facebook fake news algorithms, Google, Twitter and YouTube bias + censorship tactics( to name a few). People tune into unpopular networks because, "fake news." It's easy to turn his own attack into a positive thing... And I'm sure there are think tanks on how to present and entertain the viewers. The game is changed.

And now to go off on a tangent...

even scarier I believe Trump serves as a catalyst to the next turning point in what surely will be seen as, "one for the books." I'm not sure if it matters who is President but it feels like turmoil worldwide is all connected and the President for this time 2017 is a beacon to something that's been in the works a long time now. I can't explain myself clearly and maybe I sound crazy but it just seems all too perfect as we play and enter the next chapter as a collective. It's what's happening now.

The trick is to remember Spirit over politics... During this mass indoctrination people will react out of fear, with violence... "Morally just" fight the "Intolerant" totally Topsy Turvy...All fear-  I don't think Trump is to blame as the media would have us see fit but an even bigger picture- possibly a group and yet, focusing on who to blame is poisonous in itself. It does seem there are those with power and in control who wish to harm... Change is the only constant and we're undergoing a big heap of it- it's a massive energy and fear seems to be the path we are currently walking down as a society.

Could this be a test...


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jun 27, 2017 11:26 pm
Score for James O'Keefe and Project Veritas as one of CNNs own admits they don't really have anything to go off of concerning their Russian story and says Trumps good for business(see earlier post). Was President Trump right to call CNN very fake news? Mark Dice with the story below:

https://youtu.be/zcprZ26qhvQ


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 28, 2017 11:56 pm
We have found that the major networks far from providing fake news; were gentle on a criminal, a liar, a defamer of reputations, an environmental destroyer, a robber of the poor, a delinquent tax payer, an ego maniac, a destroyer of the middle and lower classes, a destroyer of health insurance for over 22 million people, a degradation to women, a owner of businesses designed all over the country to gamble people's lives and fortunes away, a business man surrounded with endless criminal charges and a supporter of violence and violent offenders who supported him.

This man is no leader he should be put in prison for life for his evil acts and impeached immediately for his hideous acts to humanity. Worst then Hitler or Stalin this man wants to destroy human civilization entirely and is well on his way to do it. We do not need any more fake news from the media about the Don. We have now seen his criminal acts in action. The man in one of the most evil beings that ever walked the face of the earth. I was against his views from the beginning Eric. But now that we have given him a chance as u have said to do he has proven to be a mercenary and the scum of the earth.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jun 29, 2017 02:05 am
Hey Steve,

Thats where you stand and it's all good! You are who you are Brother! I'm sorry I got upset once and called you the boy who cried Trump. At this point I think "push" is already in motion(see illusionist thread). I was just coming here to post more Fake News in the Fake News thread. This is an awesome piece put together by Paul Joseph Watson!! Enjoy!  8)

https://youtu.be/Bxg6Xs3jQek


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 29, 2017 04:50 am
Well my friend I listened to most of this video because u are a friend. But had to stop when Watson claims that CNN is not impartial because it releases more negative remarks about Trump then positive. But what he fails to recognize is almost all FACTS about Trump are negative!
It is very difficult to say anything good about the man! How can someone say anything positive about someone that is nothing but a blemish to humanity and the world?
Do we find positive things to say about Adolf Hitler to balance them with the negative? U see when u start presenting facts about someone it is up to the viewer to interpret them as positive or negative. It just so happens that most of the facts about the Don* are negatively interpreted. Is it any wonder when u look at his policies and actions?

*Don The leader of an organized-crime family.




Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jun 29, 2017 06:32 am
The interesting thing to note from this collection of Fake News, CNN being a prime example, is that it validates the notion there are forces who openly oppose President Trump. This wealthy opposition believes they run the show not the President. I wager this entity is much older and has had an air of superiority over President's before Trump. In their barrage of fake news attempts we see calls for violence, we see attempts to declare oneself an ultimate authority and we see complete disrespect for a democratic system. These forces whom openly oppose President Trump not only show they don't care for our way of life but they don't care for life in general(except their own). Greed is powerful. There is more to come. CNN's temporary downfall may seem like a victory for some but really things are just getting started.

.... This game we're witnessing seem familiar ....

Going off on a tangent... I keep thinking of the movie Watchmen and Ozymandias- if I remember right his foresight allowed him to stage a catastrophe in order to bring peace. He even seemed like a bad guy to his friends for a while. I wonder, do the illusionist see themselves as responsible for bringing in a new age or does greed truly rule their lives. We've certainly lost many innocent lives to greed and there's still much struggle and inequality all over the world... Even those who talk peace are corruptible... Seems the innocent suffer the most in what looks like a rich mans game. Guess it's none of my business.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 29, 2017 09:11 am
Many people are claiming along with Trump that there is no global warming. They are creating the fake news. The conspiracy is in their head. It is a fact that since temperature has been recorded it has been raising. It is a fact that glaciers are melting and water is rising. To ignore the facts and to say it is a hoax is to create fake news. To have a president and his administration support this fake news is to be responsible for the destruction of our mother earth. This is the responsibility these people have for creating fake news. At the very highest level of office in the United States we have fake news and lies perpetuated by our current leaders.

I am a force who openly opposes Trump! He openly opposes the survival of our planet. He openly opposes health care for millions. He openly opposes democracy by promoting a monarchy in our country where only the wealthy can live with economic prosperity. Why shouldn't I openly oppose him? He is a traitor to our country and a menace to the world!

If the U.S. Congress will not step up and show some integrity, then the American people must step up and oppose them. President Trump was elected as a servant of the people - not the other way around.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jul 05, 2017 02:27 pm
Taken from another thread,
I believe that violence usually leads to more violence. However, the left sees argument and debate over some things as a mode of privilege. They don't actually think that you can debate with fascism. So, one must simply act against it. For example, what good what it be for a Jew in a Nazi camp to debate about why he shouldn't be exterminated? So, something of that line of thinking is where these people are coming from. One problem, though, is that once you accept violence as a mode of solution it inspires other people, with different opinions, to use it as well.

Some Christians think violence would be perfectly justified to stop babies from being "murdered" in abortion clinics, as they imagine the case to be.

And so it goes. I know I'd get attacked by people from the left for saying this, but I think the guy ought to have been allowed to speak. I believe in free speech, I guess. Even for the alt-right.

I think we'd be wise to avoid simple binary thinking and remember that philosophers like Hegel "knew there'd be days like this."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q54VyCpXDH8



CNN is a perfect example of how corporate elites and other strong hands(referred to as the illusionist) have and continue to push their own Hegelian dialectic. The media has played a major role in creating division among the people, staging events and fabricating stories. It is important to recognize not only their hypocrisy but their repititious direction. The goal these, "illusionist" have deals with taking away basic freedoms, ultimately destroying our current form of democracy and replacing it with a "better one." One which might be guised as a call for peace and a model to a greater "Truth." The same "elites" pushing for violence will be the ruling class when they later pose as the peace makers(that's why they don't care which side you pick). There is this notion that we "need" to be governed... Well greed knows no ends and those with power want to stay in power. So I propose there is a fabrication going on- where $$$ is used to endorse violence and create issues where there are none by challenging personal views with over the top political correctness. I think all of this is done with the hopes that not only you take sides but that you adopt the same tactics used by the opposition. Once we fight among each other we'll decide our current system doesn't work and unknowingly let those who pushed for our demise lead us into a "new age."

https://youtu.be/44WAwP8LlOg

CNN isn't the only fake news archived in this section but they make perfect examples for discussion. Their latest hypocritical agenda involves the denouncing of a meme tweeted by President Trump where he is tackling the CNN logo in what looks like a pro wrestling match. They make a big deal calling it violent while simultaneously blackmailing the creator of the meme by threatening to expose him should he ever retract the apology he felt he was "forced" to make. You see, they found where he lives and know his name- by not blasting him they're keeping him in a constant state of fear for his life and that of his families. This coming from the network who ask for people to take sides and shed blood.


https://youtu.be/hZV0sw39Be8


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 05, 2017 07:45 pm
I have no intelligent response to the way CNN handles news. That is because I hear news from so many vast sources that unless I notice discrepancies like I have with infra wars i generally do not comment. I have with infra wars because Eric has brought this network to my attention to seemingly support his views or at the very least: his interests. Giving them fair chance I listened to them more then most networks except for perhaps U.S.Today. I found the news from infra wars mostly preposterous and extremely biased. However I do glean most of my news from friends and personal observations.

This thread was started with the notion of the fake news released by Donald Trump and his followers. Eric thought I should give him a chance and I have. He and his team have proven to be the largest promotor of fake news in the United Clones of America and promoted a course for this country that spells disaster for the human race ecologically and further division and unrest for economic inequalities in this nation. He also has caused dismay in the world community with his difference in visions for our world.


What I have noticed lately is this constant reference to violence that Eric mentions that he feels is being instigated by various groups of people. Personally I do not see violence as a effective means of change. Meditation and spiritual growth are much more effective. That is my response to this growing festering division that is taking place in our country. Hope that sets well with u Eric. That seems to be the main reason we are here supporting this forum: meditation and spiritual growth.

We has human beings are all observers and thus news bearers ourselves. I believe this is an important fact to keep in mind. So any one cannot be completely objective in their observations about what is taking place around them and in the world.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jul 05, 2017 10:53 pm
Hey Steve! You're entitled to your opinion Brother! I can't help but feel like you're walking on egg shells though!  ;D You don't got to be careful around me, we can poke fun and it's all good! I thouhgt this thread started because something about cow farts didn't sit well with you. =P I'll have to go back and check but it has evolved into so much more! I enjoy this thread because it allows us to archive the endless amount of fake news out there and discuss. We've had some great discussion over censorship and freedom of speech. I'm grateful for the crew at InfoWars and other amazing outlets like HighImpact Flix, Mark Dice, Louder with Crowder, etc. The list goes on- I'm a fan of Drudge Report and I am grateful for Wikileaks. I also think JamesO'Keefe is a true journalist and an extremely brave individual for challenging the MSM- he has been exposing these networks for their lies by means of hidden camera and probably has more goodies for us around the corner! I think it's because of this and all the work by the names mentioned earlier we're seeing retraction after retraction from MSM. Perhaps it's a way to save face since most people don't trust networks like CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post etc.

I'll continue to post here and hopefully gain some unique perspectives from members. Cheers Brother! :D


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 13, 2017 06:20 am
All this time infrawars was was supporting Donald Trump and his team of convicts about their claim of false news when in fact now we are finding out that it was the Trump team itself that was involved in false news. When in the wake of these new  email revelations the Trump team vehemently denied these charges in the past calling them 'false news' and 'hoax' and their may be serious criminal charges involved with their dealings with the Russian government to destroy Hillary Clinton's ability to win the last presidential election. While Trump and his associates thought Clinton should be put in jail because of her emails they in fact had emails that could and may be considered treason.
Perhaps it's a way to save face since most people don't trust networks like CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post etc.

I'll continue to post here and hopefully gain some unique perspectives from members. Cheers Brother! :D

Fortunately we have such networks to expose the fraud and lies of the Trump team.
The New York Times recently told Donald Trump Jr. if he did not release emails he was hiding that they would. It prompted Donald Trump Jr. to release his emails on twitter. These emails are implicating the trump team in influencing the presidential election thru Russian connections which could very possibly lead to criminal charges.

We can thank MSN for releasing information on Donald Trumps writer of the book about Donald Trump and exposing his lies and sociopath behavior and exposes his character. Since this man knew a lot about Donald Trump because he wrote his book "The Art of the Deal" Let us see what we can thank MSN for:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/art-of-the-deal-ghostwriter-speaks-out-729014339840

We also thank Journalist Lawrence for revealing criminal activity of the Trump team;

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/lawrence-kushner-letting-trump-jr-take-the-fall-994896963661


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 15, 2017 04:39 pm
Nevermind the DNC's involvement with real neo nazi collaborators... WHAT ABOUT TRUMP

Oh yes, enjoy Mark Dice YouTube platform while it's still UP
https://youtu.be/hoXThCb8EZA



Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 18, 2017 08:19 am
https://youtu.be/v5XS6xUPwO4

Gary heavin, roger stone and mark Dice discuss the dangers of today's main stream media- the headliner of this video being titled, MSM is officially terrorist propaganda. Gullible news is sometimes worse than intentional fake news(taken from another video I'll discuss in a next post) and Mark Dice claims most of these reporters don't know the truth to a story just what they're told to believe and what to convince their audience(example below). Gary heavin says that MSM has done a great job at distracting us from the real issues as we go down this upside down world described by Roger Stone. If it isn't evident that corporate elites are AntiTrump and pushing false allegations on him then God Help Us. It's sad to attack a man for simply denouncing violence in any form while showing no remorse for the victim or their family- they just go for his throat time after time distracting us from issues that could actually bring people together. We have support for hate from CNN since his election stating, "their will be violence on both sides." They favor ANTIFA terrorist like groups by ignoring their intrusions and categorize any rational thought opposing their narrative as alt right. In another video the dangers of headliners and push notifications are mentioned. I have a Work IPad and I can not delete any apps. Unfortunately I am subjected to CNN headlines that pop up while I'm trying to work. Some people don't bother to digest the news- make a sensational headline and you've got a talking point among your peers. If you try to read the article you find the bias is thick while the actual content is thin-'choice words are carefully selected to help you form an opinion.



Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 18, 2017 08:34 am
To provide clarification on gullible news and propaganda:

https://youtu.be/J0efMNZXxGg


Example of a bad interviewer pushing her narrative and a pastor basically saying it's the media who implanted the idea Trump is a racist highlighting the claims made in post above
Lucky for us she's a bad actress so the BS is easily recognizable
https://youtu.be/yTU3q1Xk6xY


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 18, 2017 02:17 pm
I really only have to hear what Trump says. Forget the media's take on it. He makes a fool of himself repeatedly by making derogatory statements about everyone. It can be because of gender or race or nationality or just his latest enemy.

The man has no civility and is socially awkward and incompetent. He needs to be called on it and to be recognized for what he is; A FAKE LEADER trying to act out a part that he has no capability for. Especially since he repeatedly has made maligning remarks about everyone he despises.  Having such a poor excuse for human being as president shows the spiritual bankruptcy of the American people. The man is worthless and a menace to society.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 18, 2017 07:32 pm
I'm afraid this hate is only accelerated by the MSM. There are forces greater than President Trump working against him and the people... MSM is completely brainwashing and turning people stupid. I've heard the arguments, perhaps it those who question the biased media who are brainwashed... Just enjoy the archives of Fake News here and determine for yourself... Real threats happening on the daily propelled by these terrorist networks and celebrity shills. Sad.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 18, 2017 08:11 pm
Compared to what Trump is doing to our environment and climate devastation that is mild. If i was to show u a picture with Trump holding a globe drenched in blood on the 🌎 that would show you just the extent of his atrocities.

I can easily sympathize with the woman in the picture after all the derogatory statements Trump has made about women. I could easily feel the same way. The man should be put with the scum he is turning this earth into. I hope to God that someone gets rid of him and his team before he ruins the earth and maliciously destroys its inhabitants. It is now nothing less then a struggle for our survival as a species and just as Hitler had people in Germany who tried to have him removed from office so we should do the same with Trump and his wrecking crew.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 18, 2017 10:33 pm
Steve, I disagree with your assessment and I removed the picture- it's just sick.
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-7wZooDefS_c%2FWCpT5TTgxXI%2FAAAAAAAAADo%2FV7kfL6bbZWg7leJIpotiD9KUJP3h3s6zACLcB%2Fs1600%2Fpro-trump-meme-r1d.jpg&f=1)



 


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 19, 2017 12:42 am
If you told me that i would tell you that you obviously do not listen!!!!
His tweets and news conferences are recorded. JUST OPEN YOUR EARS AND LISTEN. His voice is on national broadcast. His policy changes are not a myth. They are happening as we speak. We know what this man is a
 by listening to his speech and his tweets. I would say that the problem is YOU not the news media or Tump. U need to listen. Open your ears and hear!


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 19, 2017 05:55 am
(https://mikewchan.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/cosby-shaking-head.gif?w=595)


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 19, 2017 03:43 pm
Twitter is not censoring Trumps words. National broadcast is not censoring Trumps news conferences.
The program changes he has made, the tax changes he has made and the environmental changes he has made they are not a fantasy. That is the problem with Trump supporters they ignore or do not confront the real issues. Like him they always blame it on someone else.They have this double think mentality. Just a denial of the obvious. We do not have to be influenced by any network and its slant on the events to know what Trump says with his own mouth and what he has done on the job. The worst of all fake news spews right out of his mouth just as it does out of the mouths of his wrecking crew and in their actions.






Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 23, 2017 06:27 pm
Trump used the rally in Phoenix to bash the media for misrepresenting his response to the deadly white-supremacist demonstrations in Charlottesville, Virginia earlier this month. “I spoke out forcefully against hatred, bigotry, and violence, and strongly condemned the neo-Nazis, the white supremacists, and the KKK,” he said, omitting his earlier remarks that blamed “many sides” for the violence at Charlottesville. “The only people giving a platform to these hate groups is the media itself and the fake news,” he added.
At the rally, Trump suggested that he would pardon Joe Arpaio—who had gained a reputation as “America’s Toughest Sheriff“—for violating a federal court’s orders in a racial-profiling case. (“I’ll make a prediction: I think he’s going to be just fine,” he said.) The president also used the rally to talk up the Mexican border wall that was so key to his campaign, threatening to shut down the US federal government if it wasn’t funded. The rally ended with police using tear gas, stun grenades, and pepper balls to disperse protestors.
After the live broadcast of the speech ended, Lemon had this to say:
I’m just going to speak from the heart here. What we’ve witnessed is a total eclipse of the facts—someone who came out onstage and lied directly to the American people and left things out that he said in an attempt to rewrite history, especially when it comes to Charlottesville.
He’s unhinged. It’s embarrassing. I don’t mean for us, the media, because he went after us—but for the country. This is who we elected president of the United States, a man who’s so petty he has to go after people who he deems to be his enemies like an imaginary friend of a six-year-old. His speech was without thought. It was without reason. It was devoid of facts. It was devoid of wisdom. There was no gravitas. There was no sanity there. He was like a child blaming a sibling on something else. ‘He did it. I didn’t do it.’
He certainly opened up the race wounds from Charlottesville, a man clearly wounded by the rational people who are abandoning him in droves, meaning those business people and the people in Washington now who are questioning his fitness for office and whether he is stable—a man backed into a corner, it seems, by circumstances beyond his control and beyond his understanding


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 23, 2017 11:41 pm
CNN has become a real comedy. The clown news network. Lemon and Acosta are both hilarious- mainly for the garbage they spew. I just cant take anything they say seriously- even when they really really mean it this time.

Thanks Steve for making me laugh again today lol


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 24, 2017 01:53 am
Do not cover up the facts

In a minute and a half, CNN anchor Don Lemon was able to clearly and calmly articulate just what was wrong with US president Donald Trump’s Aug. 22 rally in Phoenix, Arizona.
Twitter quickly lit up that evening with praise for his off-the-cuff remarks. “What we’ve witnessed is a total eclipse of the facts,” he said with exasperation, “someone who came out onstage and lied directly to the American people and left things out that he said in an attempt to rewrite history, especially when it comes to Charlottesville.”


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Aug 24, 2017 04:32 am
Could CNN possibly know they're a dying network so going on as they do may be the only way to keep what little ratings they have left?(https://i.imgflip.com/173wot.jpg)


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 24, 2017 04:39 am
The story is not fabricated Eric we know what Trump said and didnt say. It was not only the commentary at cnn it was people across the u.s. including myself. It was not until Trump was called on it that he had anything to say about the obvious racism that caused violence in that town. But most importantly Trump does continously try to rewrite history because of the obvious wrong opinions he has. He later lies and says he did not say them and blames everyone else in his obvious lies. I did not know who Lemons was before this. Thanks for letting me know. Now i will listen to him much more. He couldn't have described the villain we have as a president better when he said "He was like a child blaming a sibling on something else. ‘He did it. I didn’t do it.’ He was like a child blaming a sibling on something else. ‘He did it. I didn’t do it.’ "

By the way...these digressions on how the media handles Trumps incompetence only are attempts to divert attention from the real problem and Don Lemons described it well. The man has no business even attempting to appear like a leader.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 24, 2017 09:27 pm
Don Lemons continues to show his brilliance and untangle the self centeredness of Donald Trump. Here is the latest people that baby Trump tried to blame for his incompetence:

Escalating feud, Trump blames McConnell and Ryan for upcoming ‘mess’ on debt ceiling.
In Arizona, Trump defends Charlottesville response, blames media
 
"He was like a child blaming a sibling on something else. ‘He did it. I didn’t do it.’  " Don Lemons


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Sep 08, 2017 04:43 pm
Check out this post in the U.S. News vibe:
Under fire, Facebook refuses to disclose political ads bought by Russian trolls
https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/us-news/fire-facebook-refuses-disclose-political-ads-bought-russian-trolls-1acqtoe

'Russian political messaging and associated “fake news” accounts have presented special challenges.......The phony accounts that began placing political ads first popped up on its platform in June 2015 — the same month Trump declared his candidacy for president. They continued until May 2017, when Time magazine first reported the suspicions of U.S. intelligence officials that Russian trolls were placing political ads on Facebook; it was also around that time that Facebook says unidentified “U.S. officials” first alerted the company to what they had discovered.'

'A possibly related effort to plant fake user content on Facebook was highlighted in a New York Times article posted Thursday that, as part of a collaboration with the cybersecurity firm FireEye, identified fake users such as a man who claimed to live in Harrisburg, Pa., and posted a Facebook message pointing users to a website, DCLeaks, that U.S. intelligence officials have concluded was a Russian front. “These guys show hidden truth about Hillary Clinton, George Soros and other leaders of the U.S.,” the apparently nonexistent Pennsylvanian wrote on June 8, 2016. “Visit #DCLeaks website. It’s really interesting'


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Sep 09, 2017 03:30 pm
Check out this post in the New Hampshire vibe:
Head Of Trump 'Election Integrity' Probe Pens Wildly Misleading Op-Ed About Voter Fraud
https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/new-hampshire/v-d09ecf1b-2cd4-320e-8526-94fe57d964e1_c-2048bfc7-f48a-36f4-a5d6-86a4fe49b794_a-2048bfc7-f48a-36f4-a5d6-86a4fe49b794


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Oct 09, 2017 08:46 pm
Check out this post in the Trump family vibe:
Donald Trump Jr.'s Attack On Jimmy Kimmel Backfires Spectacularly
https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/donald-trump/v-88cfc604-82db-3595-984d-76ff5706bcff_c-72b47718-35d5-3c1f-8a90-df9a382b99d8_a-72b47718-35d5-3c1f-8a90-df9a382b99d8


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Oct 10, 2017 06:55 pm
I thought this was a nice assessment on late night comedy shows
By 1719L
How Late Night Comedians Hurt Americans
https://youtu.be/mM7L7DNUTcw


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Rod Sterling on Oct 11, 2017 03:21 am
The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices -- to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own .

                                           Rod Sterling


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Oct 24, 2017 08:20 pm
Breaking News from Newsmax.com
 

Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., warned against the proposed merger of Sinclair Broadcast Group and Tribune Media, writing in a Crain's editorial Monday the proposed deal "threatens to do permanent damage to the American tradition of local broadcasting and will take a wrecking ball to the pillars of objectivism and diversity in local broadcasting."

The proposed merger would put the conservative-leaning Sinclair in more than 70 percent of American homes, but Durbin said his concerns are not with ideology, but diversity of viewpoints, as FCC rules currently encourage.

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Those rules limit the total number of broadcast outlets a single company can own nationwide as well as the number of stations one company can own in a single market. Softening the rules, as Trump-appointed FCC Chairman Ajit Pai has done, would erode the public's trust in local broadcasters and "fundamentally change the nature of broadcasting in America," Durbin said.

"What was Pai's motivation for putting this loophole back in place?" Durbin asked. "I'll just note one coincidence: The loophole was reinstated in April and Sinclair announced its acquisition of Tribune in May."

Tribune-owned WGN in Chicago would be among the stations falling under the Sinclair umbrella should the merger take place, putting Sinclair's conservative editorials and programming into more than 80 million homes nationwide that receive the superstation via cable and satellite.

"This is not the broadcast media Americans deserve," Durbin said. "It is my hope the FCC will not take any further actions to relax its media ownership limits without an honest public review of the state of the broadcast marketplace today."


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Dec 09, 2017 03:21 pm
Breaking fake news here at the political portal!
https://youtu.be/nQ4a7ppUvCM
Steve I’m thinking about gifting you this book for Xmas!  :D


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 09, 2017 07:45 pm

All views are respected here but some people can apologize for their mistakes. Trump is not such a man. He
smears apologies in the face of those who make mistakes .
A very unspiritual and disgraceful behavior.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: SI on Dec 09, 2017 08:09 pm

All views are respected here but some people can apologize for their mistakes. Trump is not such a man. He
smears apologies in the face of those who make mistakes .
A very unspiritual and disgraceful behavior.

There are many who behave this way. For example posting about this kind of stuff on a spiritual forum.

Let's change the name to Political Portal. That way people who come here will know what kind of forum this really is. I'm serious really, I'll do it for you. I mean why parade around with the Spiritual name anymore?


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jan 19, 2018 03:21 pm
I got one for the political forum,
Newsweek admits they’re an entertainment business and manufactures rage for clicks.
https://youtu.be/RRrFRoGfXlQ
I wonder what other, “news outlets” partake in spreading fake news for views! Oh wait, the president just announced the fake news winners!
 :D :D :D Lets read
https://gop.com/the-highly-anticipated-2017-fake-news-awards/

iDK Trump may win 2020  :o


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Feb 16, 2018 07:38 pm
Russian bots continue to infiltrate American media with propaganda the likes of which helped elect satan himself here in United Clones of America. This is not a joke! As more and more info comes in about the fake news Trump and his Russian Allies infiltrated in the news media and continue to... infra wars is becoming more and more known for its inaccurate and made up testimonials trying to cover up satans work and working to instigate it further.

In reality though Trump needs little help from the Russians in creating violence here in the states he does it quite well on his own.

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/843745?ns_mail_uid=105679674&ns_mail_job=1779338_02162018&s=al&dkt_nbr=010102bgrstb&section=newsfront&keywords=russian-bots-twitter-pro-gun&year=2018&month=02&date=16&id=843745&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main&oref=news.newsmax.com


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Feb 18, 2018 01:50 pm
"For all of those who have been asking, 'Where is the evidence of a crime?' — this is it. This is the criminal conspiracy," Cummings said. "This is what President Trump and his allies have repeatedly called a 'hoax' and 'fake news.' This is what they tried to cover up. This is what we might never have known if President Trump had been successful in shutting down this investigation."  Rep. Commings


Title: The birth of Fake News; the birther conspiracy
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 15, 2018 07:52 pm
The birther issue was the birth of Fake news perpetuated by a a T. V. Con artist: Donald Trump

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrC1Cj67SNbNiEAnQSamolQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByOHZyb21tBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1529110138/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.yahoo.com%2fnews%2finside-story-obamas-birth-certificate-birth-fake-news-210911046.html/RK=2/RS=6vvyPfymQdlg8fYsAbEIeWlPp4w-


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: tides2dust on Jun 16, 2018 07:22 am
Hi Steve,
I've read through here and wanted to apologize again for being snarky with you for having a difference of opinion. There's nothing wrong with your view's and I realize now I was more so agitated by trying to keep up with all the drama. That's all this is and if you let it, it can become very toxic. Working on ones self is hard enough, politics is a whole other spectrum. I feel bad for political prisoners, there's just too much deception no matter the affiliation. There's plenty to feel bad about though... It's becoming more important for me to recognize that God exist in all of us, through man God experiences life... There are expressions we may not agree with but nonetheless they are created- it took a Will of the creator to make it all happen. I choose to reside in Love and work towards a life everlasting. No matter how different one's path, it would seem the end goal is most always the Same- some just take longer than others.

Peace Brother...

<3


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 17, 2018 12:34 pm
Hi Steve,
I've read through here and wanted to apologize again for being snarky with you for having a difference of opinion. There's nothing wrong with your view's and I realize now I was more so agitated by trying to keep up with all the drama. That's all this is and if you let it, it can become very toxic. Working on ones self is hard enough, politics is a whole other spectrum. I feel bad for political prisoners, there's just too much deception no matter the affiliation. There's plenty to feel bad about though... It's becoming more important for me to recognize that God exist in all of us, through man God experiences life... There are expressions we may not agree with but nonetheless they are created- it took a Will of the creator to make it all happen. I choose to reside in Love and work towards a life everlasting. No matter how different one's path, it would seem the end goal is most always the Same- some just take longer than others.

Peace Brother...

<3

I can only understand at my own level of consciousness myself Eric. We are often pulled into the times we live and towards the people we meet and the events and other karmic factors. Sometimes we have to ask ourselves if we choose to continue to be  associated with the karma of being political activists one life time after another or if we choose to be associated with being involved with women and the karma that goes along with making them happy lifetime after lifetime. We often get ourselves involved in what we see as noble causes as for instance a soulmate or a political cause or movement we may think we are born to help. Or is  it more of a calling to find enlightenment and avoid all the  noble causes we are attracted toQuestions like this start to enter our consciousness as we also are working towards enlightenment. Quite often though we can set up so many different scenarios—so many drama movies—that it they all add more to our already confused and cluttered brain making it more difficult to meditate and see clearly....we make our own lives and spiritual path complicated. I hope sincerely that you are able to see a true Master at work in spiritual service this week. She will help you and us cut thru some of the drama we have created for ourselves on this long journey where we have had learned much patience with ourselves and others.



Title: Ex-White House stenographer: Trump is ‘lying to the American people
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jul 25, 2018 04:51 am
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/397600-ex-white-house-stenographer-trump-is-lying-to-the-american-people


Mr. Trump likes to call anyone who disagrees with him 'fake news.' But if he’s really the victim of so much inaccurate reporting, why is he so averse to having the facts recorded and transcribed?"


Title: Re: Fake News;Trump lies
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 12, 2018 01:48 pm
Trump continues to spew out lies and fake news about the economy. In fact there were more jobs created before he was in office instead of after.

https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/donald-trump/v-88cfc604-82db-3595-984d-76ff5706bcff_c-dd05b980-02c7-3db0-b899-8540ee6899d2_a-dd05b980-02c7-3db0-b899-8540ee6899d2?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail&.tsrc=newsroom


Sent from my iPad


Title: The utter collapse of Donald Trump's 'best people' boast
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 13, 2018 11:44 am
https://news.google.com/s/CBIwt7yLwDw?oc=em&r=12


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Aug 13, 2018 11:57 am
“This is apparently what the President of the United States feels the need to share with the world at what should be long past his bedtime? It's a disgrace. It's racist. And it's the product of petty but dangerous hatreds. I repeat this is the PRESIDENT??!?” Rather tweeted.



“When Trump criticizes ‘all types of racism’ he's using false equivalence to wink at those who peddle in the distortions of white grievance,” Rather tweeted. “It makes a mockery of our history and our present. It's not calming and unifying. it's provocative and divisive. And it's intentional.”



Title: Fake News; True News deleted for Bribes
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 09, 2018 04:23 am
The court filings describe an August 2014 meeting between Trump, Cohen and the head of a national tabloid in which they discussed buying the stories of any women who might come forward to describe sexual relationships with Trump, so the rights to those stories “could be purchased and ‘killed.’ ” The unidentified head of the tabloid, identified as “Chairman 1,” is David Pecker of the National Enquirer, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information.

https://apple.news/Av_DV2qfGS-2-OBawqb5ghQ


Title: Fake News; Trump team suppressed news
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 13, 2018 04:17 am
https://news.yahoo.com/national-enquirer-parent-cooperates-trump-183059483.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.Message&.tsrc=newsroom


Trump team bought the election and had Trumps affaires blocked from the news.


A judge says Michael Cohen's cooperation with prosecutors "does not wipe the slate clean" of his crimes.

U.S. District Judge William Pauley III made the comments Wednesday as he handed down a three-year prison sentence to the former lawyer for President Donald Trump.

Pauley said that Cohen "appears to have lost his moral compass" and that the lawyer "should have known better" than to dodge taxes, lie to Congress and violate campaign finance laws.

The 52-year-old Cohen pleaded guilty to those offenses.

He said Wednesday he takes "full responsibility" for the crimes he admitted committing. But he also said his "blind loyalty" to Trump made him feel a duty to "cover up" the president's "dirty deeds."

Trump had called for a tough sentence for Cohen, whom he labeled a liar.

~Yahoo News


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 13, 2018 12:35 pm
President Donald Trump
While the president tried to brush off recent developments as “peanut stuff” Tuesday night, the potential criminal liability focused on the White House seems to grow with nearly every court filing. Prosecutors have now made clear their belief that the president himself, aka “Individual-1,” directed Michael Cohen to commit campaign finance violations, a felony. Given Cohen’s general slipperiness in court, they’re almost certainly basing that allegation on precise documentary evidence, potentially even the covert recordings that Cohen liked to make. On Wednesday, SDNY reached a deal with National Enquirer publisher AMI that explicitly states that the Cohen payments were intended to prevent a story about Trump's alleged affair with Karen McDougal from "influencing the election."

Trump obviously payed to have fake news supporting his election and suppressing true news,


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 17, 2018 08:38 am
https://apple.news/AO8Bm-ZfpTQutVsRl0AmRIA

The biggest fake news of all has turned out to be the Trumps campaign to steal the election.


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Dec 18, 2018 04:01 am
https://apple.news/A7LpSP-UvQ1m2BlbSEXW4jw

Months after President Trump took office, Russia’s disinformation teams trained their sights on a new target: special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. Having worked to help get Trump into the White House, they now worked to neutralize the biggest threat to his staying there.
The Russian operatives unloaded on Mueller through fake accounts on Facebook, Twitter and beyond, falsely claiming that the former FBI director was corrupt and that the allegations of Russian interference in the 2016 election were crackpot conspiracies. One post on Instagram — which emerged as an especially potent weapon in the Russian social media arsenal — claimed that Mueller had worked in the past with “radical Islamic groups.”
Russia used every major social media platform to support Trump, report says
Such tactics exemplified how Russian teams ranged nimbly across social media platforms in a shrewd online influence operation aimed squarely at American voters. The effort started earlier than commonly understood and lasted longer while relying on the strengths of different sites to manipulate distinct slices of the electorate, according to a pair of comprehensive new reports prepared for the Senate Intelligence Committee and released Monday.
One of the reports, written by Oxford University’s Computational Propaganda Project and network analysis firm Graphika, became public when The Washington Post obtained it and published its highlights Sunday. The other report was by social media research firm New Knowledge, Columbia University and Canfield Research.
Together the reports describe the Russian campaign with sweep and detail not before available. The researchers analyzed more than 10 million posts and messages on every major social media platform to understand how the Russians used American technology to build a sprawling online disinformation machine, with each piece playing a designated role while supporting the others with links and other connections.
The reports also underscore the difficulty of defeating Russian disinformation as operatives moved easily from platform to platform, making the process of detecting and deleting misleading posts impossible for any company to manage on its own.
Twitter hit political and journalistic elites. Facebook and its advertising targeting tools divided the electorate into demographic and ideological segments ripe for manipulation, with particular focus on energizing conservatives and suppressing African Americans, who traditionally are more likely to vote for Democrats.
YouTube provided a free online library of more than 1,100 disinformation videos. PayPal helped raise money and move politically themed merchandise designed by the Russian teams, such as “I SUPPORT AMERICAN LAW ENFORCEMENT” T-shirts. Tumblr, Medium, Vine, Reddit and various other websites also played roles.
“We hope that these reports provide clarity for the American people and policymakers alike, and make clear the sweeping scope of the operation and the long game being played,” said Renee DiResta, research director at New Knowledge.
Social media researchers said the weaponization of these sites and services highlights the broadening challenge they face in combating the increasingly sophisticated tactics of Russia and other foreign malefactors online.

The Washington Post


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Jun 05, 2019 05:41 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-protest-reports-in-uk-during-visit-are-fake-news/vi-AACo8fd



What a liar!


Title: Re: Fake News
Post by: Steve Hydonus on Sep 14, 2019 04:54 pm
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/