Spiritual Portal

Social and Spiritual Fellowship => Satsang => Topic started by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 17, 2017 10:32 pm



Title: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 17, 2017 10:32 pm

You may think im 'pisssd off' but that does not mean i am. Your perception of my so called reaction to the present power structure is pure conjecture on your part but does not present a positive or convincing assessment of my views or their expression. There is a big difference between this president and the preceding one. This one is working against the earth. This one is creating more wealth inequality. It is u who believes nothing can be done. You have said all our leaders were liars. I merely responded to your statement with evidence to the contrary....no digression. U just feel justified in your negativity about the ability to do anything about having a liar and psychopath as a president. I believe something can be done.

If you're not pissed off then what are you? Happy about trump? Doesn't seem so. Your perception of what I am saying could also be conjecture on your part.

There is no difference between presidents. They all have made bad decisions and choices.

You do digress, you skirt issues and only address things that you want to.

And what can be done? Will you answer that or will you skirt?



No i am not 'pissed off' but that does not mean we have to lay down and let people trample over us. Even Krishna told Arjuna he had a duty to fight darkness and the evil forces in his kingdom. That does not mean that Krishna was 'pissed off'. Each person has his own individual dharma that is unique to his path. So how can i tell u what you do? I can only answer for myself and i can do and what u have seen me do here on this site. Even though u have given me a lot of flack for it. I have been answering your questions all the time SI. I am more inclined to believe it frustrates u that u are not able to corner me. There are not always answers that are dear to the antagonists questions that suit his or her ideas of what answers should be. Had there been--
Jesus would have answered Pilate when he asked; 'What is truth".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A0EvVkKdGak


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 17, 2017 11:48 pm
No i am not 'pissed off' but that does not mean we have to lay down and let people trample over us. Even Krishna told Arjuna he had a duty to fight darkness and the evil forces in his kingdom. That does not mean that Krishna was 'pissed off'. Each person has his own individual dharma that is unique to his path. So how can i tell u what you do? I can only answer for myself and i can do and what u have seen me do here on this site. Even though u have given me a lot of flack for it. I have been answering your questions all the time SI. I am more inclined to believe it frustrates u that u are not able to corner me. There are not always answers that are dear to the antagonists questions that suit his or her ideas of what answers should be. Had there been--
Jesus would have answered Pilate when he asked; 'What is truth".

Quote
I believe something can be done.

And what can be done? You forgot that part.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 18, 2017 02:08 am
I'm doing it here in these writings as well as in other ways.
It is not for me to boast about my role but rather to help others find their own.  Jesus and Krishna and Arjuna--they were people of destiny and they knew their destiny. You too may know your destiny. When we begin to know our destiny and our part in the divine drama we play out our roles according to the Masters directions. That should be our aspiration. But you must choose your own way that is your dharma. Seek your own guidance. Your role is unique and not like anyone elses.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 18, 2017 02:37 am
I'm doing it here in these writings as well as in other ways.
It is not for me to boast about my role but rather to help others find their own.  Jesus and Krishna and Arjuna--they were people of destiny and they knew their destiny. You too may know your destiny. When we begin to know our destiny and our part in the divine drama we play out our roles according to the Masters directions. That should be our aspiration. But you must choose your own way that is your dharma. Seek your own guidance. Your role is unique and not like anyone elses.

How are these writings helping to get trump out of office or change global warming, wealth inequality, etc.,?

Let's have it already. If you can't give specifics, then it's obvious you're just on a personal vendetta and nothing more and all this spouting about trump serves no purpose.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 18, 2017 04:38 am
I'm doing it here in these writings as well as in other ways.
It is not for me to boast about my role but rather to help others find their own.  Jesus and Krishna and Arjuna--they were people of destiny and they knew their destiny. You too may know your destiny. When we begin to know our destiny and our part in the divine drama we play out our roles according to the Masters directions. That should be our aspiration. But you must choose your own way that is your dharma. Seek your own guidance. Your role is unique and not like anyone elses.

How are these writings helping to get trump out of office or change global warming, wealth inequality, etc.,?

Let's have it already. If you can't give specifics, then it's obvious you're just on a personal vendetta and nothing more and all this spouting about trump serves no purpose.

I will always meet resistance in my efforts and this was true as it was then and is now. That was true of Jesus as
well. No explanation was good enough for Pilate and the Sanhedren as well. That is why he was silenced when asked to demonstrate the truth. He spoke and in the same way i am speaking here he was ignored. The written word is important that is why Paramahansa Yogananda wrote in the desert the last part of his life. There are many people today who do not trust Paramahansa Yogananda and think he is an imposter. There are many people who will not trust what i have said here. That does not mean Paramahansa Yogananda, Jesus or Gandhi were wrong when spouting off the truth. It does not mean that Jesus had a vendetta against the religion of the day or was trying to destroy it. It does not mean Gandhi had a vendetta against the British. There are still people today who do not concur with Jesus. Ask a Jewish person if Jesus was a king and you will see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwbtT42IYU8&sns=em


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 18, 2017 06:08 am
WTF? So you still didn't answer my question instead you obfuscate the thread by merging a bunch of crap together?

Nice, looks like you have no answer because you just don't like trump it has no purpose to run him down so when you were asked you instead moved shit around.

Nice. Why don't you leave the thread alone and quit moving stuff and deleting posts.

PS I usually never watch posted videos


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 18, 2017 06:11 am
How are these writings helping to get trump out of office or change global warming, wealth inequality, etc.,?

If you can't give specifics, then it's obvious you're just on a personal vendetta and nothing more and all this spouting about trump serves no purpose.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 18, 2017 06:30 am
How are these writings helping to get trump out of office or change global warming, wealth inequality, etc.,?

If you can't give specifics, then it's obvious you're just on a personal vendetta and nothing more and all this spouting about trump serves no purpose.

I have provided so many answers to your questions SI. None of them seem to satisfy u. But that is not my purpose u know. This is not a tribunal and you are not a prosecuting attorney for my case.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 18, 2017 07:12 am
I have provided so many answers to your questions SI. None of them seem to satisfy u. But that is not my purpose u know. This is not a tribunal and you are not a prosecuting attorney for my case.

Yet you did not answer: How are these writings helping to get trump out of office or change global warming, wealth inequality, etc.,?

Show me your answer because I missed it if you would be so kind.

No I am not an attorney. I am a visitor on a forum called Spiritual Portal, that lately contains many negative (read: negativity) posts concerning trump, and somehow that's due to a quest to "do something about it". When I asked you how it can solve it, you evaded and brought out Jesus stories.

It's your forum. Go ahead and keep avoiding my direct question above. I don't care. This is just stubbornness to the nth degree trying to be disguised as some altruistic goal.



Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: guest88 on Nov 18, 2017 07:51 am
sup yall  :) red is here  8)


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: guest88 on Nov 18, 2017 07:54 am
fellasssss

i've been down this road with steve, SI lol

i think you've made good points. but both of you all say this...

people are going to do what they want.

whether president or even us here at the forum.

at least we got this place to express. ill be chiming in on the things i find of interest

oh boy im up past my bed time... got to be uncomfortable in front of an audience tomorrow and do a speech/presentation
eeeeeekkks


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 18, 2017 09:24 am
I have provided so many answers to your questions SI. None of them seem to satisfy u. But that is not my purpose u know. This is not a tribunal and you are not a prosecuting attorney for my case.

Yet you did not answer: How are these writings helping to get trump out of office or change global warming, wealth inequality, etc.,?

Show me your answer because I missed it if you would be so kind.

No I am not an attorney. I am a visitor on a forum called Spiritual Portal, that lately contains many negative (read: negativity) posts concerning trump, and somehow that's due to a quest to "do something about it". When I asked you how it can solve it, you evaded and brought out Jesus stories.

It's your forum. Go ahead and keep avoiding my direct question above. I don't care. This is just stubbornness to the nth degree

trying to be disguised as some altruistic goal.


How are your writings discussing your questions helped provide a convincing view that mine are not helpful? My writings have shown the facts about the political landscape since this team of sociopaths were elected. Your writings have shown nothing but interrogation. Once all the information is layed out people can make there own evaluation. Thats how it has helped the subjects u asked about above. If we were not able to make intelligent decisions from reading and learning as an example at college...we would never go. This place is also a place of learning for us all including me. If it wasn't why read anything here? So that is my direct answer to your question of how it is helping climate warming and wealth equality. I have met people that voted for Trump that do not even know what climate warming is. And you think it doesn't help to provide the information. SI i took u for an intelligent man!

I am also providing support for those willing to refuse to fight for this team of psychopaths and who are helping in their impeachment.  Also we will have an elections soon again. We can get someone else in who can support climate efforts and support economic equality. U know we as yet have not had voting rights taken from us. My words have changed other peoples lives. If they do absolutely nothing for you...why read them? You could make the case why read anything? Which u appear to be making. Because anything you read will not change anything. But if that is really the case then people will take the next step which is violence to make change or hopefully non-violent resistance.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 18, 2017 09:01 pm
How are your writings discussing your questions helped provide a convincing view that mine are not helpful? My writings have shown the facts about the political landscape since this team of sociopaths were elected. Your writings have shown nothing but interrogation. Once all the information is layed out people can make there own evaluation. Thats how it has helped the subjects u asked about above. If we were not able to make intelligent decisions from reading and learning as an example at college...we would never go. This place is also a place of learning for us all including me. If it wasn't why read anything here? So that is my direct answer to your question of how it is helping climate warming and wealth equality. I have met people that voted for Trump that do not even know what climate warming is. And you think it doesn't help to provide the information. SI i took u for an intelligent man!

I am also providing support for those willing to refuse to fight for this team of psychopaths and who are helping in their impeachment.  Also we will have an elections soon again. We can get someone else in who can support climate efforts and support economic equality. U know we as yet have not had voting rights taken from us. My words have changed other peoples lives. If they do absolutely nothing for you...why read them? You could make the case why read anything? Which u appear to be making. Because anything you read will not change anything. But if that is really the case then people will take the next step which is violence to make change or hopefully non-violent resistance.

Still did not answer me. Oh you mean people stop by here and read your rants then they run out and change things? Really? I think the odds that anything written here has altered any of the events you rant about are frankly astronomical, if any.

Your writings are based on untrustworthy media sources then mixed with your own perceptions thrown in.

This does not help.

If you meet people who don't know what climate warming is, and you give them all you're knowledge, what will they be able to do? Nothing.

Think about it. Why does the media for the most part try to find bad things about people? Look at the latest sex crap. It sells. Why doesn't the news spend more time reporting the good side of folks? They just pick the bad things, and burn em at the stake. Nice, gee I can't wait for the next smear, it's so exciting.

You have no proof what is really causing "global warming", maybe it's just the way it's supposed to be, and, as far wealth inequality? If money means so much to people, get off your ass and do something about it, because no one else will and it's not their job anyhow. Oh sure there's always exceptions, and those exceptions are the same excuses that are always brought up to support crap arguments.



Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 18, 2017 11:12 pm
Somethings are very simple SI. And your remarks are as well. It is simple; i have answered your questions in so many ways it is hopeless but at the sametime easy to understand you. You simply do not agree with me and so no explanation or answer is satisfactory to you and never will be.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 19, 2017 12:11 am
You just can't see it. Or you refuse.

Change the name to Political Portal or Trump Bash Party.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 19, 2017 01:03 am
You just can't see it. Or you refuse.

Change the name to Political Portal or Trump Bash Party.

U just don't get it or can' t see it or refuse. There is a psychopath in charge of our government and his henchmen. That is what u do not see. Why not change the name of  U.S. to the United Psychopathic States...it would be a more apt name. With King Psychopath in charge.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 19, 2017 04:33 am
U just don't get it or can' t see it or refuse. There is a psychopath in charge of our government and his henchmen. That is what u do not see. Why not change the name of  U.S. to the United Psychopathic States...it would be a more apt name. With King Psychopath in charge.

I do see it. But I don't lose sleep over it, and I don't rant about it on a supposed spiritual forum. Why not create a trump portal and whine there, wouldn't that be more appropriate?


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 19, 2017 05:40 am
U just don't get it or can' t see it or refuse. There is a psychopath in charge of our government and his henchmen. That is what u do not see. Why not change the name of  U.S. to the United Psychopathic States...it would be a more apt name. With King Psychopath in charge.

I do see it. But I don't lose sleep over it, and I don't rant about it on a supposed spiritual forum. Why not create a trump portal and whine there, wouldn't that be more appropriate?

It would not be appropriate because all there would be is he and his rich buddies wining and dining on tax payers dollars we are paying for all his law suits and tax breaks for him and his cut throats. I don't want to rant about it either so be sure to vote him and his henchmen out of office. What good is it to have a spiritual forum and say nothing when the devil is running your country?


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 19, 2017 06:16 am
It would not be appropriate because all there would be is he and his rich buddies wining and dining on tax payers dollars we are paying for all his law suits and tax breaks for him and his cut throats. I don't want to rant about it either so be sure to vote him and his henchmen out of office. What good is it to have a spiritual forum and say nothing when the devil is running your country?

I don't vote. It's a waste of my time. They never have anyone on the ballot worth voting for.

The devil is running the country. I see. If the devil is now in power, then why would you want him here as well? It would make sense to open a Devil Trump forum and worship over there.

How do you sleep at night when the devil is just around the corner in the news for you all the time?


 



Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 19, 2017 06:22 am
Believe me it isn't easy so now u know why i'm here and everywhere else trying to do the best i can to get him out.
The Don and his mafioso. The more we talk about him..the more i realize how evil he and his followers are.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 19, 2017 06:55 am
So the more you drag trump in here, the worse it gets. Why do that?



Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 19, 2017 10:42 am
So the more you drag trump in here, the worse it gets. Why do that?


http://musicmeditate.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=4796.0


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 19, 2017 05:51 pm
http://musicmeditate.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=4796.0

So the devil runs the country and now he's all over this board, makes no sense at all.

I think you're just pissed that some dope has a lot of $$$ and managed to become president.

You know here in Portland there were so many pissed off people after the election, blocking traffic and causing disruption for weeks.

2 things:

They were simply pissed and
Nothing they did changed anything. And we're talking *lots* of people. All of them changed nothing. 0. Nada. Wasted energy.

He's still president, and like it or not, he will continue to do as he wants. All the whining in the world by all these people and yourself will not change it.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Nov 19, 2017 07:26 pm
http://musicmeditate.smfforfree.com/index.php?topic=4796.0

So the devil runs the country and now he's all over this board, makes no sense at all.

I think you're just pissed that some dope has a lot of $$$ and managed to become president.

You know here in Portland there were so many pissed off people after the election, blocking traffic and causing disruption for weeks.

2 things:

They were simply pissed and
Nothing they did changed anything. And we're talking *lots* of people. All of them changed nothing. 0. Nada. Wasted energy.

He's still president, and like it or not, he will continue to do as he wants. All the whining in the world by all these people and yourself will not change it.

LOL u are a poor psychologist my friend. Ask any of my friends...my days of being pissed off or angry are over.
These are actors in a play and u and i are playing are parts as best as we know how. I know u would like to defend your position and u can keep trying if u would like. That is the freedom u have here. We will have another election in three years. I will continue to do my best to get these monsters out of office despite your assessment of my efforts. With other young people i helped stop the Viet Nam War. We whined and whined as u call it...i would call it resisting evil. I also helped free the slaves during the civil war. This is my dharma. To help have a better world. We can do it again by getting these criminals out of office.


Title: Re: What is Truth?
Post by: SI on Nov 19, 2017 08:03 pm
LOL u are a poor psychologist my friend. Ask any of my friends...my days of being pissed off or angry are over.
These are actors in a play and u and i are playing are parts as best as we know how. I know u would like to defend your position and u can keep trying if u would like. That is the freedom u have here. We will have another election in three years. I will continue to do my best to get these monsters out of office despite your assessment of my efforts. With other young people i helped stop the Viet Nam War. We whined and whined as u call it...i would call it resisting evil. I also helped free the slaves during the civil war. This is my dharma. To help have a better world. We can do it again by getting these criminals out of office.

Wasn't trying to be a psychologist, you said that?

I am not defending anything, you are defending your poor position. But are too bent on serving trump in your own way. Not me.

"That is the freedom you have here". I am so honored. Shall I kneel?

You will be waiting all of those three years, and will have wasted effort better spent elsewhere.

You and others stopped the war? Truly amazing. Link?

Freeing slaves as well. OK. And PY was Alexander the Great.

In the 1700's I was involved in getting people to gather their senses and stop blaming others for how the world is.