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Title: Dreams; Do they tell the truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 15, 2019 11:02 am
Do dreams tell the truth? Or can they also be illusions caused by desires. Can we use  dreams to guide us? Or like many things in life; They too can deceive us and lead us down dead end roads?


Title: Re: Dreams; Do they tell the truth?
Post by: guest88 on Feb 10, 2019 06:06 am
This is from Pir-O-Mushrid Inayat Khan on dreams and inspirations,

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DREAMS AND INSPIRATIONS

Dreams and inspirations are open proofs of the higher world. The past, present, and future are frequently seen in a dream, and may also be revealed through inspiration. The righteous person sees more clearly than the unrighteous. There are five kinds of dreams:
 

    1. Khayali – in which the actions and thoughts of the day are reproduced in sleep.
    2. Qalbi – in which the dream is opposite to the real happening.
    3. Naqshi – in which the real meaning is disguised by as symbolic representation which only the wise can understand.
    4. Ruhi – in which the real happening is literally shown.
    5. Ilhami – in which divine messages are given in letters or by an angelic voice.
     

Dreams give, sometimes clearly, sometimes in a veiled form, warnings of coming dangers and assurance of success. The ability to be conscious of dreams and their meaning varies with the degree of development attained.

Dreams have their effect sooner or later, according to the stars under which they take place. The dream seen at midnight is realized within one year, and the dream of the latter part of night within six months; the dream of the early morning is realized soon after. At the same time the manifestation of dreams is subject to qualification according to the good or bad actions of the dreamer.

Inspirations are more easily reflected upon spiritual persons than upon material ones. Inspiration is the inner light which reflects itself upon the heart of man; the purer the heart is from rust, like a clean mirror, the more clearly inspiration can be reflected in it. To receive inspirations clearly the heart should be prepared by proper training. A heart soiled with rust is never capable of receiving them. There are five kinds of inspiration:
 

    1. Ilhami Ilm – inspiration of an artist and scientist
    2. Ilhami Husn – inspiration of a musician and poet
    3. Ilhami Ishq – inspiration of a devotee
    4. Ilhami Ruh – inspiration of a mystic
    5. Ilhami Ghaib – inspiration of a prophet
     

Inspirations are reflected upon mankind in five ways:

    1. Kushad dar Khayal – in the wave of thought
    2. Kushad dar Hal – in emotions and feelings
    3. Kushad dar Jamal – in the sufferings of the heart
    4. Kushad dar Jalal – in the flow of wisdom
    5. Kushad dar Kamal – in the divine voice and vision

Some are born with an inspirational gift, and to some it appears after their development. The higher the development in spirituality, the greater the capacity for inspiration, yet the gift of inspiration is not constant; as the saying of Muhammad declares,

    Inspirations are enclosed as well as disclosed at times;
        they appear according to the will of Allah,
            the only Knower of the unknown.

https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_1.htm


Title: Re: Dreams; Do they tell the truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 11, 2019 10:57 am
HmmmThere’s a lot here to digest think it’s gonna take several readings


Title: Re: Dreams; Do they tell the truth?
Post by: guest88 on Feb 11, 2019 05:32 pm
Do dreams tell the truth? Or can they also be illusions caused by desires. Can we use  dreams to guide us? Or like many things in life; They too can deceive us and lead us down dead end roads?
Steve,
I've been thinking more on your question this morning. Dreams are a doorway to the varying degrees of consciousness. I believe we can learn a lot from our dreams and I agree with your thoughts. From my meditation efforts and studies of yoga-science, from the wisdom imparted by the great teachers, I believe in the different layers of existence in which we try to move through like a raising of the veil in order to achieve a state of God-union. So, it isn't off to think that dreams may be included in one of these layers that serve as a sheath for the One. I am forever grateful for my dreams which have lead me to the astral realm and shown me Truth experienced on an intuitive level. The indifference comes from continuing the practice of meditation and the study of the wisdom imparted to us from the Prophets and Masters, understanding and reinforcing the ultimate goal of becoming self realized and thus a liberated Soul.
In short, Yes and yes. And quite profoundly, Pir-O-Mushrid talks to us with today's wisdom on an indifference that comes from having gone through interest... Without dreams I wouldn't of had these experiences- some reflective, some other worldly or celestial, some psychic... I gave a lot of importance to my dreams and now I simply find myself thankful for being shown a way.


Title: Re: Dreams; Do they tell the truth?
Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Feb 14, 2019 08:07 pm
I think dreams just cut through. They hit directly to our emotions. They often find our real feelings. Perhaps that’s the reason why they have so much impact on us. Maybe deep down our emotions have a lot to do with what we’re all about. Long-standing emotions often come from past lives. And dreams seem to be a little touchy into them. I think we’re given a chance to see some of our deepest feelings and the impact of some very important people in our lives; In our dreams.