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Title: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 27, 2009 07:04 pm April 27, 209 Dwapara
i think one of the main reasons we call it practicing the presence is this: We as yet do not experience that presence all the time. Yet we have basic change in attitude to our experiences. We start to think of our experiences as coming from God not created by ourselves. More and more we put ourselves out of the way. So God can manifest in our life. Eventually grace shines thru little dark clouds of our life. We experience Gods presence in our lives and not just practice it. But slow by slow it comes with practice. We fill our thoughts with different vibrations by practicing the presence. You get to know people and ourselves by their/our thoughts. Their thoughts manifest into reality. We want to be around the highest thoughts that manifest God's presence in our lives. Steve Hydonus Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Joy on May 01, 2009 07:09 pm Keeping the thoughts positive and in a high vibrational state is so important and so challenging now. I find it is not only the outer life but also the inner life and thoughts (which to me is more important) where it necessary to keep positive and try to maintain a positive attitude. I find introspection vital. I find looking within and analyzing and making adjustments and continuing to move forward is challenging and not easy however necessary to keep moving toward God. There are good, positive resources available in the form of books and such and also in other people. Recognizing and utilizing the resources that come to us is vital. Recently when I started going into worry and negativity a good friend reminded me to 'forget the past, the old will fall on its own; look to and build the future.
In Divine Friendship, Joy Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Katze on May 02, 2009 09:08 am Steve, every now and then I think about your statement "Practicing the presence " and how to make it more a part of everyday life. I think you said it nicely, when you said it is about experiencing God's presence in our life. There are so many ways to experience God in our life, starting out by thanking God for the blessings that we have, a good way to start the day.
Interesting comment about the thoughts of people around us and how their/ our thoughts manifest into reality. I came across this comment by Eckhart Tolle "All negativity is caused by an accumulation of psychological time and denial of the present (moment). Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry - all forms of fear - are caused by too much future and not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness and all forms of non forgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence". So it sounds like the way for more postivity to enter ones life is not to spend too much time dwelling on the past and the future ..... is this kind of what you mean by practicing the presence, the focusing on the present, kind of like ~ live for the moment ? of course, with God in our lives. Into Blue Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Katze on May 02, 2009 09:17 am There are good, positive resources available in the form of books and such and also in other people. Recognizing and utilizing the resources that come to us is vital. hi Joy, Have you read any of Wayne Dyer's books ? He has several books that I have read and I would recommend reading him as an Author. Here are a few of his books : Power of Intention, There is a Spiritual Solution to every Problem, 10 Secrets for Success and Inner Peace. I have his Power of Intention on a perpetual calendar. It has a saying for every day of the year, motivational moments so to speak. Into Blue Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Joy on May 04, 2009 07:25 pm Hi Into Blue,
I've not read anything by Wayne Dyer. I saw a PBS special with him, which was good. I will check out his books. Thanks! Joy Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on May 04, 2009 09:15 pm Keeping the thoughts positive and in a high vibrational state is so important and so challenging now. I find it is not only the outer life but also the inner life and thoughts (which to me is more important) where it necessary to keep positive and try to maintain a positive attitude. I find introspection vital. I find looking within and analyzing and making adjustments and continuing to move forward is challenging and not easy however necessary to keep moving toward God. There are good, positive resources available in the form of books and such and also in other people. Recognizing and utilizing the resources that come to us is vital. Recently when I started going into worry and negativity a good friend reminded me to 'forget the past, the old will fall on its own; look to and build the future. In Divine Friendship, Joy Experiencing God's grace in friendship today..... Steve Hydonus Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 01, 2011 12:10 pm Steve, every now and then I think about your statement "Practicing the presence " and how to make it more a part of everyday life. I think you said it nicely, when you said it is about experiencing God's presence in our life. There are so many ways to experience God in our life, starting out by thanking God for the blessings that we have, a good way to start the day. Interesting comment about the thoughts of people around us and how their/ our thoughts manifest into reality. I came across this comment by Eckhart Tolle "All negativity is caused by an accumulation of psychological time and denial of the present (moment). Unease, anxiety, tension, stress, worry - all forms of fear - are caused by too much future and not enough presence. Guilt, regret, resentment, grievances, sadness, bitterness and all forms of non forgiveness are caused by too much past, and not enough presence". So it sounds like the way for more postivity to enter ones life is not to spend too much time dwelling on the past and the future ..... is this kind of what you mean by practicing the presence, the focusing on the present, kind of like ~ live for the moment ? of course, with God in our lives. Into Blue Hey Into Blue Yes this is 'kinda what I mean by practicing the presence' ;) these r interesting checks and balances (errors due to omission) shown upside down (instead of practicing in the present finding out y we we do not.) In this way we can see how much we r practicing the presence. Good reminders by Eckhart Tolle and Into Blue! Instead of thinking about God in the present u have showed us why we don't...Because we find ourselves spending so much time thinking about the past and future. The mind is always going anyhow so why not think about God while this is happening? Practicing the presence is also doing something for someone else. When we do this there is not as much resentment, regret and sadness. We just keep on being loving in the present. We can also have an interview with God. Bring more questions to God and being sincere with him. i heard a story at service about a monk who used to go to baseball games and a lot of kids would b there early to get jobs selling refreshments. They only needed so many kids to do it so a man would choose certain kids. He did not get chosen. It took sometime to b noticed. After a while the man noticed he was there a lot and started choosing him. If we warm a pew enough divine mother will finally say who is this person who keeps coming back? It is also important to think of God when u r not free to do so. Like when u r challenged by a lot of work. In these cases he loves us more. i have found myself loving a person(s) during heavy duties. When u love someone u think of them all the time. Perhaps God gives us people to love to show us that if we can think about them when they forget about us; Maybe we can think about God..... who does not forget about us. Jitendra Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: guest88 on Jul 01, 2011 10:55 pm the old will fall on its own; look to and build the future. cool thank you Title: good morning God Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 23, 2012 07:47 pm talking to god daily. good night Lord.
Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: prabhatsinha on Apr 25, 2012 06:50 am "If we warm a pew enough divine mother will finally say who is this person who keeps coming back?"
thanks steve. Title: today's resolution Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jun 02, 2012 12:42 am replace all bad thoughts and distracting thoughts with thoughts of god.
Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jul 11, 2012 09:04 pm "If we warm a pew enough divine mother will finally say who is this person who keeps coming back?" thanks steve. Trying to keep the pew warm all the time by bringing Divine mother in every part of my life......engrossed is the bee of my mind on the blue lotus feet of my divine mother. Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: guest88 on Jul 11, 2012 09:56 pm steve ! ::]
beautiful blue lotus feet ! i like it ;D :) Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Katze on Jul 14, 2012 04:25 pm steve ! ::] beautiful blue lotus feet ! i like it ;D :) did I miss the blue lotus feet ? Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Apr 03, 2014 02:07 pm It's hard to know what one means by "thinking of God". I'm not sure how to be more clear than that. :-\ Nomaste Perhaps this thread will support our discussion.Lately I have been buzzing with the presence of God. I believe it is because I feel grateful for what the Guru has done in my life. However it is also out of recognition of how easily maya can snag you and present a new set of issues in your life. Today I have big plans for thinking of God. I need to interview him again. ;D It's hard to know what one means by "thinking of God". A good practice is japa, with calmness. Remaining calm and even minded is what I find to be most important. In the past I have tried to practice positive thinking without even mindedness. I found that it throws you off center. It makes you bipolar, so to speak. So, now I realize we must do the positive thing and think the positive thought, but with non-attachment and calmness. We think the positive thought but do not grasp at it. We do not give energy to negative thoughts, but we do not have aversion toward them either (because aversion gives them energy). Remaining centered, I find, is the most important thing and it can be done. Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 16, 2014 01:54 am I believe most of us feel alone at times in our life... even if we have others around us. :-\ i suppose it is to remind us
that we still have not found the deepest communion we are seeking. That communication and relationship with spirit. Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: mccoy on Dec 17, 2014 12:12 am Funny thing is that sometimes you feel alone...Some other times you would give anything to be alone in peace, like myself now... Life comes rarely in balanced and ideal situations, apparently
Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Dec 17, 2014 04:22 am Funny thing is that sometimes you feel alone...Some other times you would give anything to be alone in peace, like myself now... Life comes rarely in balanced and ideal situations, apparently Well its so nice to have u with us mccoy. You know I will always visit a friend wherever they go if I am able. Very few people from Yogananda's 'sites' visit here. U see i drive a truck most of the week so I am isolated from people quite a bit. Seeing people like u and others reminds me of practicing the presence. We are never really alone when we have God but we can be tremendously alone without spiritual companionship no matter how many people are around. Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 31, 2016 07:22 pm I just wish I would be able to keep my thoughts focused on God all day long with whatever happens. Me, too. :) I have a dear friend who is far older and wiser than I. He taught me about Practicing the Presence in such a sweet way. He said it's easy - just start by thanking God for EVERY little pleasure, no matter how small the moment you experience it. One example he gave was having a bowel movement. lol! He said it is a bit of a release - a small pleasure to be able to have a bowel movement, right? So when you do, thank God - in the moment! To this day, I cannot use the bathroom without thinking about God. Maybe you will think of Him each time you use the toilet now, too! Ha ha. I go through dry spells that can last months or even years, but once I start noticing the little things again, they are everywhere. Soon you find yourself thinking, "Oh, wow! Look at those beautiful trees! Thank you for the trees, Lord! Thank you for the sky!" Then you see Him in people on the street. I used to mentally tap stranger's heads in cars as they sped past. "That person! Thank you God for that person! Bless you, strange person!" Thank You for the colors, thank You for the words. Thank You for the happy sound rice makes when it hits the bottom of the pot, and the way it smells while steaming. Thank You for the steam! How precious is that? Water turned to gas. Amazing! It can become addictive. Then once you start to feel that amazing gratitude, it really is an ongoing, active love story. The same way you think of a human being you might be enamored with - how everything around you reminds you of them in some way - God is like that, only better. You can fall in love with God. <3 This paragraph that you wrote has a lot of practical advice on practicing the presence. Thank-You Shannon Leigh. i will be rereading it from time to time and try to practice it! "Thank-You for the words." Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Shannon on Jan 31, 2016 09:40 pm You're welcome. Thank you for the thank you! :)
Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us? on Jan 31, 2016 11:03 pm You're welcome. Thank you for the thank you! :) Part of practicing the presence is being generous. i do not know what u r doing over here all the time on spiritualportal.net when u have your own forum but maybe no one knows why i've been participating so much at yoganandaji.org Perhaps its best not to ask. Isn't giving just wonderful? It is rather contagious!! We can actually move from the practice into the presence. It is just a step away. Title: Re: Practicing the Presence Post by: mccoy on Jan 31, 2016 11:47 pm Quote ....Soon you find yourself thinking, "Oh, wow! Look at those beautiful trees! Thank you for the trees, Lord! Thank you for the sky!" Then you see Him in people on the street. I used to mentally tap stranger's heads in cars as they sped past. "That person! Thank you God for that person! Bless you, strange person!" Thank You for the colors, thank You for the words. Thank You for the happy sound rice makes when it hits the bottom of the pot, and the way it smells while steaming. Thank You for the steam! How precious is that? Water turned to gas. Amazing! It can become addictive. Then once you start to feel that amazing gratitude, it really is an ongoing, active love story. The same way you think of a human being you might be enamored with - how everything around you reminds you of them in some way - God is like that, only better. You can fall in love with God. <3 Another consideration: there are people who are blind so they cannot see persons, colors, steam and so on. Others are deaf so they cannot hear rice or other things. And so on and so forth. Our worries are often pretty egoistical, since they are zero in comparison to the worries suffered by other people. I'm not above that, I often worry about very futile things. The mind is like that. The mind absorbs the prevailing vibrations in this dimension which are delusional or satanic. Practicing the presence of God is not easy because we live in a dimension where Satan is king and God is concealing. |