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« Reply #210 on: Jun 07, 2019 07:53 am »

But what I have noticed is when there is sadness around me...I often have sad dreams. The environment affects us in a subtle manner that reacts on a subconscious level. In the spirit of renunciation I will often tell a woman who is quite attractive to me of my intense interest in Amma. Sending someone a link can offer insight into another person. They may just ask you not to respond to them. Or on the contrary they May recognize The significance of the information. Even curiosity shows some receptivity.

Steve is this sadness the result of someone else crushing your desire or subconscious expectations?
Sometimes I will have sad and even horrific dreams which is why I find counting our blessings such a valuable practice.
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« Reply #211 on: Jun 07, 2019 01:36 pm »

We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world.

     Bowl of Saki, June 6, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

Externally we are a single being, but internally we are a world. As vast as is the world around us, so vast is the world within. Asif says, 'The limitation of the sky and land cannot be compared with man's heart. If man's heart be wide, there is nothing wider than this.' All can be accommodated in it; heaven earth, sun, moon, all are reflected in it. It becomes itself the whole. This world becomes as one chooses to make it. If man only knew that! But since he does not know that, the world is not heaven, but has become its opposite. We blame others for our sorrows and misfortunes, not perceiving that we ourselves are the creators of our world; that our world has an influence upon our life within as well as upon our life without.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_17.htm


One learns to understand that there is a world in one's self, that in one's mind there is a source of happiness and unhappiness, the source of health and illness, the source of light and darkness, and that it can be awakened, either mechanically or at will, if only one knew how to do it. Then one does not blame his ill fortune nor complain of his fellow man. He becomes more tolerant, more joyful, and more loving toward his neighbor, because he knows the cause of every thought and action, and he sees it all as the effect of a certain cause.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_5.htm


I think that it is important to put the question you asked me in perspective Eric. You took my quote from another thread that has relevancy to you to this thread. Since you asked a question in your last entry I will respond to why I think you asked that question by giving the topic that it appears to relate about. I agree with everything thing that Inayat Khan has said here; Our reality that we experience is created by ourselves. We can also be cognizant of elements of that reality unfolding before us in our dreams and our consciousness.

To give an example a Master like Inayat Khan or Amma can foresee certain conditions or events or know the consciousness of another being that comes to them. That state of being may not be anything they created but rather they know what they are witnessing. So in this sense, it is a witness state of consciousness and, it is not something that they are attached to which they identify with and have sadness as a result of someone else “crushing their desire or subconscious expectations.” I would not go so far as to say in all my experiences I am a witness to what I experience and have no personal identification with those experiences but it is something that we aspire towards. Thoughtful question you posed here and a good way to react to our experiences; “I find counting our blessings such a valuable practice.” Isn’t it important to be responsive and not reactionary in all our encounters in life?
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« Reply #214 on: Jul 02, 2019 02:06 am »

Happy July 1st Divine Friends.
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« Reply #215 on: Jul 02, 2019 01:54 pm »

Happy July 1st Divine Friends.


I wonder if this is as much of a concern when we are not in a position to be rewarded in using it? Hope you follow what I am saying dear friend. Some of us live a humble life. We are humbled by circumstances.
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« Reply #216 on: Jul 02, 2019 11:32 pm »

Hi Steve,
I don't understand what you're talking about. Today's message reflects the teachings of the other masters discussed here... The battle-cry of Gurunath, "Self peace for world peace"
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Man must first create peace in himself if he desires to see peace in the world; for lacking peace within, no effort of his can bring any result.

     Bowl of Saki, July 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan
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« Reply #217 on: Jul 03, 2019 11:00 am »

Peace in the world is quite a different idea than pride in knowledge. I think I have met many college professors who had pride in knowledge. There was really no other way of looking at a subject for them except there own view. You can see that in most people in many subjects. But when someone is given a title they often seem to get more dogmatic then people who have more humble lives. I’m just saying that many simple people have such a humble life that they are not in a position to have pride of knowledge.

Its often the more someone has financially and in titles quite often the more they think they are right. Perhaps you see it differently. You have people who will ignore all the evidence provided and make up their own philosophy to justify their pride and satisfaction in what they think they know in their given field; for instance Trump trying to run our country like a business that has a singular vision of Americans first without seeing the larger view of his destroying the earth.

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I don't understand what you're talking about. Today's message reflects the teachings of the other masters discussed here... The battle-cry of Gurunath, "Self peace for world peace"
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Man must first create peace in himself if he desires to see peace in the world; for lacking peace within, no effort of his can bring any result.

     Bowl of Saki, July 2, by Hazrat Inayat Khan
https://wahiduddin.net/saki/saki_date.php
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« Reply #218 on: Jul 17, 2019 04:37 pm »


Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

We frequently say, 'I dislike him,' 'I wish to avoid her,' but if we examine this carefully, we find it is the same element in all that we dislike, the ego. And when we turn to ourselves to see if we have it in us, we find it is there too. We should forget it, therefore, in other people, and first turn our attention to crushing it within ourselves. We should determine to have our house clean even if other people neglect theirs. We should be careful to take away from ourselves any thorns that prick us in the personality of others. There is a verse in the Quran, which says, 'Arise in the midst of the night, and commune with thy Lord... Bear patiently what others say.' This is not only a command to rise in the night and pray, but it also means that by rising in the night we crush the ego, for the ego demands its rest and comfort, and when denied, is crushed. The mystics fast for the same reason. The Sufis base the whole of their teaching on the crushing of the ego which they term Nafs-kushi, for therein lies all magnetism and power.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_27.htm


For every soul there are four stages to pass through in order to come to the culmination of the ego, which means to reach the stage of the rose. The first stage is that a person is rough, thoughtless and inconsiderate. He is interested in what he wants and in what he likes; as such he is naturally blind to the needs and wants of others. In the second stage a man is decent and good as long as his interests are concerned. As long as he can get his wish fulfilled he is pleasant and kind and good and harmonious; but if he cannot get his wish and cannot have his way, then he becomes rough and crude and changes completely. And there is a third stage, when someone is more concerned with another person's wish and desire, and less with himself; when his whole heart is seeking for what he can do for another. In his thought the other person comes first and he comes afterwards. That is the beginning of turning into the rose. It is only a rosebud, but then in the fourth stage this rosebud blooms in the person who entirely forgets himself in doing kind deeds for others. In Sufi terms the crushing of the ego is called Nafs Kushi.

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Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan:

There are two ways in which we may attain control over our activity. The first is confidence in the power of our own will; to know that if we have failed today, tomorrow we will not do so. The second is to have our eyes wide open, and to watch keenly our activity in all aspects of life. It is in the dark that we fall, but in the light we can see where we are going.

So it is in life: we should have our eyes wide open to see where we walk. We should study life, and seek to know why we say a thing, and why we act as we do. We have failed perhaps hitherto because we have not been wide awake. We have fallen, and felt sorry, and have forgotten all about it, and perhaps may have fallen again. This is because we have not studied life. A study of life is the greatest of all religions, and there is no greater and more interesting study. Those who have mastered all grades of activity, they above all experience life in all its aspects. They are like swimmers in the sea who float on the water of life and do not sink.

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If we only knew how much the study of life can tell us! One could go into the British Museum and read every book in the building, and yet not obtain satisfaction. It is not study, it is not research, it is not inquiry which gives this knowledge; it is actually going through the experiences of life, witnessing life in its different aspects and in its different phases or spheres; that is what reveals the ideal of life. ... Look not on life as a person would watch a play on the stage. Rather look upon it as a student who is learning at college.

It is not a passing show; it is not a place of amusement in which to fool our life away. It is a place for study, in which every sorrow, every heartbreak brings a precious lesson. It is a place in which to learn by one's own suffering, by the study of the suffering of others; to learn from the people who have been kind to us as well as from the people who have been unkind. It is a place in which all experiences, be they disappointments, struggles, and pains, or joys, pleasures, and comforts, contribute to the understanding of what life is, and the realization what it is. Then do we awake to the religion of nature, which is the only religion. And the more we understand it, the greater our life becomes, and the more of a blessing will our life be for others.

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« Reply #221 on: Jul 25, 2019 05:15 pm »


Our spirit is the real part of us, the body but its garment. A man would not find peace at the tailor's because his coat comes from there; neither can the spirit obtain true happiness from the earth just because his body belongs to earth.

Bowl of Saki, July 25, by Hazrat Inayat Khan
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Our spirit is the real part of us, the body but its garment. A man would not find peace at the tailor's because his coat comes from there; neither can the spirit obtain true happiness from the earth just because his body belongs to earth.

Bowl of Saki, July 25, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

It’s in sync with my thoughts today; sometimes I get this feeling these bodies that are walking around forever busy are just places are spirits are trapped in while we pay the sentence for our desires. I believe that it is somewhat different in the astral and causal realms where we do not have the same limitations as here. We are actually working out a type of sentence we have caused to our spirits being assigned to come here. But we do have quite a gift in having this experience here in the physical realm to evolve upward and out.
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« Reply #223 on: Jul 26, 2019 07:18 am »

Thanks Steve, I'm happy to see Spirit is talking to you. To seek God is a beautiful and rewarding journey. I am thankful for the times you've helped keep my course steady homeward and hope to offer the same to you.
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« Reply #224 on: Aug 09, 2019 09:31 pm »


   ~~~ One word can be more precious than all the treasures of the earth ~~~

The word has a magic in it, it can turn friends into your enemies, and it can make your enemies your friends. The mystery of all success in every direction of life is in the word. The word has power to turn the mind of the listener warm or cold. The word can produce the effect of earth, water, fire, air, or ether. The word can produce depression or joy. The one who knows the chemistry of the word does not need drugs or herbs. He has medicine for every disease in the world, not only for bodily disease, but also for the disorders of the mind, which still remain unexplored by science. By a constant study of life, by special thought given to one's word, by careful watching of the effects of one's speech upon others, one arrives at a state of realization where one can heal hearts.

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