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« on: May 03, 2011 07:51 pm »

In God Talks to Arjuna PY discusses the Kleshas or troubles of existence that God is untouched by:

1.Kripa-Individual delusion (avidya)
Maya or cosmic delusion
2.Bhishma-Ego (Asmita)
3.Karna-Attachment
4.Vikarna-Repulsion
5.Jayadratha-Body-Bound Inclination
6.Bhurishrava-Material Action(Karma)
7.Samsakara-Habit
8.Ashvatthaman-Latent Desire (Ashaya)

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2011 11:39 pm »

sooooo....this list of 8 we must overcome in order to 'get back to God again'...or enter into the Christ Consciousness...... ? 

hmmm...reminds me of a certain 'battle' told in Bhavad Gita.... Wink  hmmm....reminds me of the bible too.....interesting....

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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011 02:49 am »

sooooo....this list of 8 we must overcome in order to 'get back to God again'...or enter into the Christ Consciousness...... ? 

hmmm...reminds me of a certain 'battle' told in Bhavad Gita.... Wink  hmmm....reminds me of the bible too.....interesting....

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The kleshas are responsible for all the miseries of the world. For instance we associate everything around us as 'mine'; 'my sister', 'my car' and 'my house'. This is 'Asmita' or ego. Consciousness does not do this. Since u and Namaste2All have the book 'God talks to Arjuna' my hope is that we can continue this conversation with whoever is interested. Asmita gives us a sense of separation or ego consciousness. We think I am 'this' instead of I am the soul or parusha.

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011 03:35 pm »

When we engage in self study we begin to realize we r not these bodies.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2011 04:13 pm »

When we engage in self study we begin to realize we r not these bodies.

we are souls......   sat chit ananda ......

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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2011 04:16 pm »

3.Karna-Attachment
4.Vikarna-Repulsion

We like things and r repulsed by other things. Feelings get us more and more into the drama. Repulsions and attractions bind us. If u hate someone it is very difficult to give it up. When we really forgive someone we forget it. Hate attracts like love. So it is to our benefit  to forgive. The less u r attached the more it is like water off a ducks back.

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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2011 06:24 pm »

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011 10:05 am »

Guru kripahi kevalam.

Oh Guru, have grace (on this humble student).
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011 03:45 pm »

Forgiveness was mentioned in this thread and, if it is no bother, I would like to add my thoughts.

It is true, that forgiveness will always be to our benefit, even though the simpler mind may have trouble understanding how.  When we forgive somebody who has wronged us, it's not that we are saying "what you did was right".  We are simply choosing not to be attached to the event and emotions of hate and anger.  It takes much more work to forgive and to actually try to understand the reasons for another person's actions; just the way we would want our own reasons to be understood for anything we have ever done wrong.

Although the event of a person seriously harming a loved one, for example, is very hard to deal with.. it is foolish to call this "impossible" to forgive.  It may take a stronger heart and mind for someone to do this, but nonetheless, forgiveness is ALWAYS superior to repulsion and resentment, and will ALWAYS benefit us more than any revenge or "eye-for-eye" justice ever can.

When we learn to forgive in our hearts, we do the justice of the Universe tenfold

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2011 01:52 pm »

ya...forgiveness is very important to both soul and body   Smiley

it hinders soul from progress and causes disease and body harm....stress/anxieties....

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« Reply #10 on: Jul 25, 2011 08:04 am »

In God Talks to Arjuna PY discusses the Kleshas or troubles of existence that God is untouched by:

1.Kripa-Individual delusion (avidya)
Maya or cosmic delusion
2.Bhishma-Ego (Asmita)



1. Delusion that we r separate from God

2. Delusion that we r the body; ego consciousness


We get caught up in creation and cling to life. We believe this is the highest form of life to b experienced. We get caught up in the drama of creation. 'i want this. i do not want that. Take it away.'
Some times the things we pick do not bring us happiness.
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 01, 2013 12:28 am »

Klishas: any of the five hindrances to enlightenment, which are ignorance or avidya, egocentricity, attachments, aversions, and the instinctive will to live.
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