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« Reply #30 on: Jan 30, 2016 06:16 am »

There is nothing more scary then normal people.

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i am starting to remember the chants i used to sing at SRF. It would b nice to be round other SRFers to sing them. Some of them r very visual in nature. But often spiritual songs of my own seem to pop up in my head so they r part of my consciousness always. No doubt my desires will manifest as they do seem to quite often. God seems to spare me those that r not so good. That is what i have found. There is divine protection. It surrounds us. Ask for divine protection dear friend. God will protect u from forces that have disturbed you. They will mysteriously b taken out of your life.

Others may need your help for a time. Today i was in a restaurant and a waitress told me 'i am so glad i met you!' i am glad i met her also. She was receptive to my spirit. If others r not u may just let them go. Sometimes u just have to b honest with others. They may not like what they hear. But it will take away the fear of new people coming in your life. Life moves on. It brings to us people and circumstances. Everything that comes to you comes from the Masters. Embrace it and see it as from God. There is no need to fear life. Everything is for a purpose. Even those things that have been very difficult. Somewhere some how we have created them. But as Babaji has told us... just a little bit of practice of Kriya will spare us from 'dire suffering and colossal fear.'  All is well. There is so much beauty and wonder around us that is entering our life daily but we ourselves often shut it out with our own preconceived ideas, notions and social conditioning. i have no idea sometimes why these words come to my mind. They come from some where else at times. They are just as much for me as u or anyone else that may b listening.

There are people who r dangerous and treacherous. It is a mistake to think that the intentions of everyone that comes in our lives is good. But to always b on guard is to forfeit the blessings that come into our lives. Listen to the kindness offered by others and ignore the hell that some have created for themselves. If they truly want your help.... U may have to help from a distance. But some of them will want something you cannot give them. If you tell them that and they still can't accept it you will have to let them go and tell them they must go until they  have genuinely changed their attitude or perhaps u yourself have found that yours also needed changing. If you find yourself around people who mistrust you and your intentions; It is often because you yourself mistrust the intentions of others. If you cannot trust the intentions of those around you it is often because you cannot trust your own intentions.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply, Steve.  I think you have spoken wisely, and I appreciate it - it isn't just coming from you, either, though you are surely one of the messengers.  Spirit is speaking too.  Have you ever read the book Hinds Feet on High Places?  It is a beautiful story about transformation.  The main character is a crippled young girl named Much Afraid who follows the Good Shepherd to the High Places though her foot is clubbed and the journey is steep.  Everyone has challenges to overcome.  I am passing through a deeply reflective and emotional glen on my way to the mountain at this time.  I cannot emphasize enough the depth of this phase, most of it inwardly driven as it needs to be.  You must not read too much into anything I say or don't say at this time, because it is transitional and I am so deeply focussed on what is brewing inside - processing - that all else barely registers.  A butterfly in its cocoon is not aware of the sun that shines on it, yet it unfurls its wings and flies in its own time - once that old shell is no longer useful.  

I think you are a good person.  Have never said otherwise.  Sharing fear is part of the new me opening up.  In general, I only share the good and strong parts.  But that has not served me very well in the past.  As you know, everyone needs their own time for comprehension.  You cannot just tell someone something.  They have to live it or observe it for themselves. My sharing with you the inner wondering of wether or not you are a 'nut' is not meant to be derogatory or mean.  It is respect, the puppy showing its under belly, a person being honest about where they are at.  If I did not care or question at all, I would not come here.  So!  That said, let us lighten up, okay?  If you are already light - super!  I am a little heavy sometimes.  You know my chart. Bless you and your owls, and your music.  I am off to tuck the kids in bed. Peace -

i will come by to sing the children a lovely lullaby. We are all very grateful to have you with us Ms. Shannon Leigh. If little hoot seems to be doing acrobats on your porch it is only the yoga postures i learned from Grandpa - i don't give a - hoot.
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« Reply #32 on: Jan 30, 2016 10:39 am »

That is probably why i served in mental health for years.

Were you kind of like one of those nurses on one flew over the cuckoos nest?


If it wasn't for advice from spiritual friends i still might not have completely recognized the harm some women have tried to do to my life and reputation behind the scenes.

Sorry you went thru whatever it was.

Hello SI!

You r talking about Nurse Ratched. i believe i was much more friendly then her. i don't believe in all the years i worked in mental health that i saw workers that were quite like that! Because of privacy we are not supposed to talk about are clinical experience with clients. But i did see incidents in which Mental Health workers treated one another that way. i believe there was a lot of rivalry... people wanting overtime and your full time job etc.

The difficulty that we have in a public forum like this is to bring things out into the open that have happened to us. i am sure that if i did that someone may still b watching this forum that i may anger so it is better to chalk it off to experience and move on. Some people that may have been treacherous in your life may just tell you to 'get over it' but at the same time they feel that you should be friends with them. But their actions might have cost thousands of dollars to you.
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« Reply #33 on: Jan 30, 2016 10:54 am »

i am starting to remember the chants i used to sing at SRF. It would b nice to be round other SRFers to sing them. Some of them r very visual in nature. But often spiritual songs of my own seem to pop up in my head so they r part of my consciousness always. No doubt my desires will manifest as they do seem to quite often. God seems to spare me those that r not so good. That is what i have found. There is divine protection. It surrounds us. Ask for divine protection dear friend. God will protect u from forces that have disturbed you. They will mysteriously b taken out of your life.

Others may need your help for a time. Today i was in a restaurant and a waitress told me 'i am so glad i met you!' i am glad i met her also. She was receptive to my spirit. If others r not u may just let them go. Sometimes u just have to b honest with others. They may not like what they hear. But it will take away the fear of new people coming in your life. Life moves on. It brings to us people and circumstances. Everything that comes to you comes from the Masters. Embrace it and see it as from God. There is no need to fear life. Everything is for a purpose. Even those things that have been very difficult. Somewhere some how we have created them. But as Babaji has told us... just a little bit of practice of Kriya will spare us from 'dire suffering and colossal fear.'  All is well. There is so much beauty and wonder around us that is entering our life daily but we ourselves often shut it out with our own preconceived ideas, notions and social conditioning. i have no idea sometimes why these words come to my mind. They come from some where else at times. They are just as much for me as u or anyone else that may b listening.

There are people who r dangerous and treacherous. It is a mistake to think that the intentions of everyone that comes in our lives is good. But to always b on guard is to forfeit the blessings that come into our lives. Listen to the kindness offered by others and ignore the hell that some have created for themselves. If they truly want your help.... U may have to help from a distance. But some of them will want something you cannot give them. If you tell them that and they still can't accept it you will have to let them go and tell them they must go until they  have genuinely changed their attitude or perhaps u yourself have found that yours also needed changing. If you find yourself around people who mistrust you and your intentions; It is often because you yourself mistrust the intentions of others. If you cannot trust the intentions of those around you it is often because you cannot trust your own intentions.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply, Steve.  I think you have spoken wisely, and I appreciate it - it isn't just coming from you, either, though you are surely one of the messengers.  Spirit is speaking too.  Have you ever read the book Hinds Feet on High Places?  It is a beautiful story about transformation.  The main character is a crippled young girl named Much Afraid who follows the Good Shepherd to the High Places though her foot is clubbed and the journey is steep.  Everyone has challenges to overcome.  I am passing through a deeply reflective and emotional glen on my way to the mountain at this time.  I cannot emphasize enough the depth of this phase, most of it inwardly driven as it needs to be.  You must not read too much into anything I say or don't say at this time, because it is transitional and I am so deeply focussed on what is brewing inside - processing - that all else barely registers.  A butterfly in its cocoon is not aware of the sun that shines on it, yet it unfurls its wings and flies in its own time - once that old shell is no longer useful.  

I think you are a good person.  Have never said otherwise.  Sharing fear is part of the new me opening up.  In general, I only share the good and strong parts.  But that has not served me very well in the past.  As you know, everyone needs their own time for comprehension.  You cannot just tell someone something.  They have to live it or observe it for themselves. My sharing with you the inner wondering of wether or not you are a 'nut' is not meant to be derogatory or mean.  It is respect, the puppy showing its under belly, a person being honest about where they are at.  If I did not care or question at all, I would not come here.  So!  That said, let us lighten up, okay?  If you are already light - super!  I am a little heavy sometimes.  You know my chart. Bless you and your owls, and your music.  I am off to tuck the kids in bed. Peace -

i have not read 'Hinds Feet on High Places' Perhaps i will sometime. i appreciate your honesty, long response and continued presence here. If more comes to mind about this nice post i will write later....
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« Reply #34 on: Jan 30, 2016 11:17 am »

Grin. Lol.  The internet is excellent for connecting with others you share something in common with - especially if those things are unusual for where you physically are.  Not everyone is scary - or scared! I am a special (basket) case due to over exposure, ha ha.  I have met just 4 people in life whom I encountered first through online boards. All four turned out to be pretty much as they were online.  I think they felt that I was, too.  It isn't all smoke and mirrors.  Smiley

Well then i will consider your feelings.... we should all do that... consider each others feelings and what we have gone thru in life. When and if you want to meet/ talk off line let me know... i have spoken with many people on this forum on the phone and have met them. If u do not wish that to happen or do not feel comfortable about it then we appreciate your being here. That should be enough and no one should expect more.

Yes u r correct. The internet has brought many people together from distant places with similar interests. Life was never like this when i was younger. i was a loner when it came to meditation and my spiritual interests.

My experience has been quite different then yours Shannon. i have found the people i have met on line to be quite different off line and have found that people are quite different on line if i met them first in the physical realm. It adds a whole different dimension to relating. It can deepen relationships but it can also help us realize what a person is like when you spend personal time with them in the physical realm. You get a closer view at their habits and life styles and can find out to what degree you are compatible in the physical realm. That is often quite different then cyberspace.

i will leave you with one example: It is very difficult to experience the communication of silence and just being with someone here on the computer. But when you are with someone you can spend hours in silent communication. To connect here we have to put a lot of energy and thought into expressing our ideas. In the physical you can experience someones aura in a tactile, aural, olfactory and visual way. It is amazing to watch someone paint, play music, dance, their body language and how they serve one another. Just amazing! Once a friend literally ran to see me! What a feeling!
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« Reply #35 on: Jan 30, 2016 06:21 pm »


I think you are a good person.  Have never said otherwise.  Sharing fear is part of the new me opening up.  In general, I only share the good and strong parts.  But that has not served me very well in the past.  As you know, everyone needs their own time for comprehension.  You cannot just tell someone something.  They have to live it or observe it for themselves. My sharing with you the inner wondering of wether or not you are a 'nut' is not meant to be derogatory or mean.  It is respect, the puppy showing its under belly, a person being honest about where they are at.  If I did not care or question at all, I would not come here.  So!  That said, let us lighten up, okay?  If you are already light - super!  I am a little heavy sometimes.  You know my chart. Bless you and your owls, and your music.  I am off to tuck the kids in bed. Peace -

i can relate to what u mean when u say 'sharing the good and strong parts and how it has 'not always served u well in the past.' i remember Eric once told me that sometimes u can extend the hand of friendship and kindness to others and they can literally cut it off.

Sometimes though u find people that u would like to b light hearted with that u come to realize they do are not light hearted themselves and u have to take their intentions and feelings seriously. i think that is what u saw taking place at yoganandaji.org with someone u and i knew on the forum. What started out to be lightness, years of friendship and joking around ended up to b dead serious. Circumstances changed all that. Changes in relationships can also make dramatic changes in how people act towards one another. New people that come into their life may cause them to act quite different then they had before.

So u see u never know for sure the level of what u have triggered in someone else. It is good to stand back and say 'wow something i say or do may trigger past experiences in some one that were traumatic without me even knowing it. Or they may want something from me/you emotionally and as a friend, that i/you are unable to presently give to them. When they do not get it some can become easily vindictive. Suddenly you become the enemy and you can be accused and blamed for things that have never taken place or you have never done. It is not a general rule but we have to realize that mental illness is very prevalent in our culture and can and has manifested many times for many of us from other lost and weary souls living in their own private hell.

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« Reply #36 on: Jan 31, 2016 11:36 pm »

Oh yes, I am definitely working out karma this life - every life I hope.  And sincerely, I would not presume I am evolving quickly.  Not at all.  I am not even a decent yogini.  Kindness and helping others is part of a meaningful life, but haven't you ever been in a situation when you thought you were helping but you were in fact in dangerously way over your head?  I once slept with a baseball bat under my bed for a year, terrified of someone (a devotee no less) I thought I was 'helping' through friendship.  There is Love, but then there is psychotherapy.  Lol.  When I became a mom, I realized there is a difference between putting yourself out there, and putting yourself out there recklessly. No, call me a coward but it makes more sense to at least try to stay off the radar of those who might harm you becuase they live in an alternate reality.  Don't get me wrong.  In life, I still have 'fringy' friends.  I don't expect people to be perfect.  We are all a little imbalanced in different ways - me included.  But at least in regular, physical life, you have a lot more clues about a person.  The vibration is stronger - and weird quirks are more evident.  On the web, one can be blindsided.  People present themselves in a calculated way.  I use my instinct and intuition both in life and on the web.  My intuition is still not clear about you, Stevie-boy!  Ha ha.  For the past few years I have leaned toward your being a nutcase because of various things you've said - and a certain vibe -  but then there is the music, and an underlying possibility that maybe you're alright and I am overly guarded.   Not sure.  God is constantly pushing me.  Maybe time will tell.   :-)

Maybe it is partially SIRENS AS FEMMES FATALES that have left me out there feeling like there was nothing to hold onto until i found my way out of the quagmire..... back to the spiritual Masters guidance. It was just a false alarm. But the mirage was sure presented as real.
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« Reply #37 on: Feb 01, 2016 11:59 pm »

i see i am under scrutiny these days. May i ask why?.... i do not even have a potential relationship. At least no one has indicated it to me. i am fortunate for my friends though!

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« Reply #38 on: Feb 02, 2016 12:02 am »

I see I have been made a moderator. If this was true, I would have merged these topics. I don't really intend to do any moderating here though, but thanks anyway for the priviledge.

That's why I created a log in called SI, that way if someone hijacks my account, at least they will not gain admin permissions, remember we do not use an SSL certificate for logging in...
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« Reply #39 on: Feb 02, 2016 12:04 am »

There is nothing more scary then normal people.

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And unfortunately, there is nothing to define normal or scary.
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« Reply #40 on: Feb 02, 2016 12:07 am »

You r talking about Nurse Ratched. i believe i was much more friendly then her. i don't believe in all the years i worked in mental health that i saw workers that were quite like that! Because of privacy we are not supposed to talk about are clinical experience with clients.

Yes she was one of them,

Shock treatment. I certainly hope you were not forced to resort to that.

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« Reply #41 on: Feb 07, 2016 08:12 am »

http://redgramliving.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Emergence-Gestalt-Prayer.jpg

Really not to much a fan of this prayer. Y? Because it emphasizes individuality. In order to come together  people merge and help one another. It is more then just -- I do my thing you do yours-- It is more about what is your thing and how do I understand u? Compatibility depends on people working together. This is not a coincidence but comes with effort and service towards one another. i do agree about one important point about this prayer though. That is that it is important to expect things out of ourselves and not others.
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ANNAMALAI SWAMI - FINAL TALKS

So, while you still have an ego, and the power of discrimination that goes with it, use it to inhale the fragrance that you find in the presence of an enlightened being. If you spend time in the proximity of a jnani, his peace will sink into you to such an extent that you will find yourself in a state of peace.
If, instead, you choose to spend all your time with people whose minds are always full of bad thoughts, their mental energy and vibrations will start to seep into you.


i really believe u would enjoy the presence of Amma if she comes back to Georgia next year. i enjoy the presence of kind people. i seek them out and avoid mean people. If i see someone being unkind towards others or myself i may mention it. If they cannot see it or do not seem to care i will find others who r kind and thoughtful towards others and seek out their companionship.

If i am able to b in the presence of a real saint or Master i will do every thing i can to seek them out. Sometimes my thoughts do not concur with those of others but if they r making a conscious attempt to b kind and practice meditation i overlook these differences and hope they do as well. We have many mental states conditioned by life times that may make us feel different in shallow ways. But if we have come to the point of making an effort to b kind and correct ourselves while meditating we are old souls who need to help one another as friends and in our service to God and Gurus.
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Really not to much a fan of this prayer. Y? Because it emphasizes individuality. In order to come together  people merge and help one another.

But we can be both, individuals and help others, a balance, might also help with becoming too attached.
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