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« on: Jun 25, 2012 12:05 am »

If thine eye be single thy whole body wil be filled with light~Jesus. The Christ conscious center is at the point between the eyebrows. The energy of the body leaves through the medulla at death which is a reflection of the third eye.

If you concentrate on the third eye you may begin to feel something or see something. concentrate deeply at the point between the eyebrows. The ajna or third eye is the center of will. it is also where you can send peace or other messages to others. you can send energy out to others thru this broadcasting center. the heart is a receiving station and the third eye is a broadcasting center. Long concentration on the liberating third eye will help you see thru the illusion of this creation.

in india the women and some men put this symbol on their forehead. paramahansa yogananda was once asked if there was another way to find god except by just kriya meditation. he said  a  sure swift way is to concentrate on the third eye. you can sense there's something going on and eventually you will be able to do something at the ajna center at a point that is not high on the forebear. it is between the eyebrows and slightly up.

you can walk and your attention can still be at your third eye. spiritual walking is walking and being into the third eye. you can also be using a mantra while you walk.

the more we are locked into lower consciousness the more we are trapped in this physical existence. we are just visiting here. we are not morbid about this but this is a temporary existence here.

many of us are living in a higher age now. concentration at the third eye. You can help yourself rise above pain and suffering. if you put yourself more at the christ center it will help you be more detached from pain.

the more you meditate the less your attached to the physical form. there is a disconnection as though you are observing the body. you can rise more above pain if you concentrate at the point between the eyebrows.

We make emotional situations in our lives worse by thinking about them. we make them worse by how we are thinking about ithem. remember you do not have to have your eyes lifted. you can but you don't have to. your attention can be there to help lift your consciousness out of these emotional problems.

Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing id for God and Guru. it is 1 way to connect with God.

you can imagine someone at the ajna center and bring them to you. Amma has pressed there when I saw her. With eyes completely closed or half closed from that center you concentrate while practicing a mantra.

sometimes people produce healing through the spiritual eye. press there to feel that pressure. you can also tense and give pressure to the chakras in the same way. you do not need the body to be aware. we can go out of the medulla which is part of the third eye and see light. it is astral light which you are seeing. you may also see other lights at the third eye. these can be the chakras or astral lights.

there is a fine line between imagination and reality. If you are experiencing peace, bliss or feel good during the practice you are experiencing reality.

intensity is of benefit. with concentration and devotion release the soul from the imprisonment of the body through the spiritual eye. the consciousness can be withdrawn from the body. Put all your thought is feeling in the spiritual eye. Mirilini Mata had all the nuns and monks do this at christmas meditation everyone in the room seemed focused. There was such an energy and focus in the room.

chant om christ om christ as you concentrate there. with infinite concentration and devotion  pour your consciousness thru the center of the spiritual eye into infinitude.....PY

inspired by Brother Devananda

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 01, 2015 11:49 am »

Mccoy i appreciate your inspiration to concentrate more on the ajna center.

We also have a thread here for the third eye that was started sometime ago. I am happy that u have such an interest in it because it reminds me to keep up the practice... specifically - 'jyoti mudra'. At this point I just can't relate to making a marathon out of it as u have on another forum. But if it works for u and others, that is great!

I remember thinking for years I wish Amma would bless me with opening the third eye. Suddenly; quite often she would put paste on that center on my forhead.

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 02, 2015 10:19 pm »

Steve thanks for reminding, we can never talk too much about the SE, the Spiritual Eye.

If we were able to concentrate constantly on that while carrying out our duties we would already be within the saints.

I appreciated all you post and this part I find particularly inspiring and is what I'm goign to practice, at least trying to practice:


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Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing is for God and Guru. it is 1 way to connect with God.

I think our job will carry power that way.

If we have a job which is not mental rather physical, we can draw coordination, efficiency or simply work with a blissful mind.

If we are committed to an intellectual job, we can receive inspiration and creativity. connecting with God means connecting with his infinite creative power, which will flow back from the mind to the results of the job. I'm firmly convinced about that.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 03, 2015 02:35 pm »

Steve thanks for reminding, we can never talk too much about the SE, the Spiritual Eye.

If we were able to concentrate constantly on that while carrying out our duties we would already be within the saints.

I appreciated all you post and this part I find particularly inspiring and is what I'm goign to practice, at least trying to practice:


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Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing is for God and Guru. it is 1 way to connect with God.

I think our job will carry power that way.

If we have a job which is not mental rather physical, we can draw coordination, efficiency or simply work with a blissful mind.

If we are committed to an intellectual job, we can receive inspiration and creativity. connecting with God means connecting with his infinite creative power, which will flow back from the mind to the results of the job. I'm firmly convinced about that.

It seems to me that we need to get out of this idea that we are doing all these activities we do in life for ourselves. It becomes ridiculous
when you consider the fact that in a few years we will b gone from here and in a few  more years never remembered. All we really have to take with us is our spiritual accomplishments. i too will give this practice much more attention.
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2015 05:38 am »

Mccoy have u noticed how people get obsessed about certain things and their minds rotate around certain ideas and thoughts? It is like they are trapped in those thoughts. Most all of us are to some extent. Think of how we could change our thoughts and reality if we were obsessed at looking at the third eye.

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 09, 2015 10:14 am »

Mccoy have u noticed how people get obsessed about certain things and their minds rotate around certain ideas and thoughts? It is like they are trapped in those thoughts. Most all of us are to some extent. Think of how we could change our thoughts and reality if we were obsessed at looking at the third eye.
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Quite true, and that's a good practical idea, start to develop that kind of spiritual obsession, swapping good obsessions for a bad ones.

Actually, the term obsession alwyas carries a negative connotation, implying anxiety or negative mental states.
But it implies fixation or concentration, without effort. So we may turn that negative fixation with another positive fixation, taking advantage of the fact that they share a similarity.

Now Steve, you gave me an idea which is Worth experimenting. Obsession changing scheme. On to next post.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 09, 2015 10:23 am »

Obsession degradation scheme.

A procedure which will weaken the power of an obsession by substitution the negative fixation by a positive one.

1)Observe the obsessive idea(s) by mentally detaching from them
2)Plant a positive idea in the mind and charge it with will power, make it revolve in your mind taking advantage of the same mechanism used by the negative fixation. Take advantage of the law of affinity shared by fixations, we can ride the energy of the obsession and turn the thing into positive fixation.
3) By reiterating this procedure, there will be competition in the neural pathways between the negative and positive fixation. We want to feed the positive one, subtracting mental fuel from the negative which has the mind producing lots of it. If enough mental fuel (neuronic energy) is diverted into the positive idea, the negative fixation will inevitably starve.
4) We keep taking advantage of this affinity to feed the positive fixation, until the obsession looses energy and decays.

This scheme requires the application of willpower at the beginning since the existing obsession will turn up in the mind self-fueling with no effort,  whereas we must fuel the positive, antagonist fixation by conscious effort and diversion of the feeding channel.

The basic idea is well know by the early treatment of drug addicts. The understanding father, as soon as he realizes his son or daughter is starting to use, will buy him or her musical instruments, games, he will enroll him/her into gyms or physical activities or whatever interest can disloge the unhealthy fixation.

We also have a supreme undestanding Father to whom we can ask for help to start this obsession degradating procedure.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 10, 2015 04:26 pm »

Enjoyed your entry below. I am unaware how it is used in drug abuse rehabilitation but found your idea of a 'father's help' particularly useful since having a guru would mean that help is available for the asking. In line with this topic is the picture of Sri Yukteswar... presently at the top left side of the forum... showing the spiritual eye... visibly in his for head.

 
Mccoy have u noticed how people get obsessed about certain things and their minds rotate around certain ideas and thoughts? It is like they are trapped in those thoughts. Most all of us are to some extent. Think of how we could change our thoughts and reality if we were obsessed at looking at the third eye.
Jitendra

Quite true, and that's a good practical idea, start to develop that kind of spiritual obsession, swapping good obsessions for a bad ones.

Actually, the term obsession alwyas carries a negative connotation, implying anxiety or negative mental states.
But it implies fixation or concentration, without effort. So we may turn that negative fixation with another positive fixation, taking advantage of the fact that they share a similarity.

Now Steve, you gave me an idea which is Worth experimenting. Obsession changing scheme. On to next post.

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« Reply #8 on: Jan 28, 2015 09:25 pm »

Hope you haven't given up on your obsession changing scheme. i do believe I have been practicing third eye viewing much more during meditation and energization exercises... i just need to extend it to my daily activities.... pause a bit look in the third eye and tell the divine it is all for her.

I remember my first attempts at meditating as a teen ager. I would get a candle out; look into the flame for a long period of time, then close my eyes and view the lite of that flame. I visualize the third eye in much the same way. Anybody want to share their experiences?
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 30, 2015 04:12 am »

From the SRF Lessons (S-4 P-101)

"It is only by deep concentration and fixing the eyes on the point between the eyebrows, and by being able to hold the light before our inner gaze for any length of time with open or closed eyes, that we can gradually learn to send the consciousness and the life force through the spiritual eye into the Infinite . . .

The two physical eyes are given to us by our human parents to cognize this world of matter, i.e., a limited range of vibrations: owing to their limited sensibility, the physical eyes see only certain vibrations of matter. But by opening the spiritual eye, one may behold God.

A guru - literally, one who leads from darkness ("gu") to light ("ru") - is he who is sent by God to help aspiring devotees to open the spiritual eye.

. . . Deeply meditating SRF students will not have to die in darkness. They will be guided by the SRF gurus through the luminous spiritual eye into the infinite light of God
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 30, 2015 08:55 pm »

I remember my first attempts at meditating as a teen ager. I would get a candle out; look into the flame for a long period of time, then close my eyes and view the lite of that flame. I visualize the third eye in much the same way. Anybody want to share their experiences?

There is little to share I'm afraid. I only saw the spiritual eye occasionally and fleetingly. At least I know it's there.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 02, 2015 04:46 pm »

I remember my first attempts at meditating as a teen ager. I would get a candle out; look into the flame for a long period of time, then close my eyes and view the lite of that flame. I visualize the third eye in much the same way. Anybody want to share their experiences?

There is little to share I'm afraid. I only saw the spiritual eye occasionally and fleetingly. At least I know it's there.

i know the feeling. There is a close connection between the physical and spiritual realms-the spiritual realm being the architect for the material world. So often we have experiences that are difficult to differentiate one from the other. Seeing lights is not so uncommon when someone closes their eyes. Even if one wants to explain it as a physical phenomena.... everything has a spiritual basis. In this sense we perhaps cheat ourselves out of spiritual experiences.

I remember a behavioral psychology professor remarking that psychic experiences i gave to him were nothing more than superstitious behavior. Certainly he only recognized one reality. That is the one measured by the senses. It is important to b among people who understand even our limited spiritual awareness rather  than ridiculing us and stifling our progress.

I have found that practicing the higher kriyas and 'jyoti mudra' has brought more of this phenomena 'to light'.
(See reply #1 this thread.)

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« Reply #12 on: Feb 09, 2015 09:48 am »

Demand for the Opening of the Spiritual Eye,
to Find God in Everything

My eyes are enthralled, O Father,
with the beauty of the flowers,
the passing scenes of life,
and the sailing, silent clouds.
Open that eye in me which sees
nothing but Thee.
With that gaze — above, beneath,
around, within or without
may I behold Thee.
Teach me to see in all things
nothing but Thee.
Open in me that eye
which beholds in all beauty
only Thy reigning beauty!


[This demand is to be repeated mentally with deep concentration,
until the prayer-thought becomes fixed in the super-consciousness by faith and conviction.]

Paramahansa Yogananda - "Whispers from Eternity"

The spiritual eye is one thing to open but perhaps we have had experiences in our life when our 'inner eye' was open to the beauty around us. We experienced a moment of connection with God in nature and everything had a heightened sense of Gods presence in it because we could perceive it.
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 31, 2015 12:36 am »

A guru--literally, one who leads from darkness ( "gu ") to light ( "ru" ) -- is he who is sent by God to help aspiring devotees to open the spiritual eye.

Paramahansa Yogananda

I found it interesting that upon receiving darshan from Amma many times... She often would press my third eye and massage my spine which is known as the altar of God.
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 06, 2015 08:02 pm »

Paramahansa Yogananda: "Though the light of the spiritual eye may be seen by pressing the closed eyes gently, its secret door can never be opened just by physical pressure." In this statement PY discloses the basis for 'jyoti mudra' and other higher forms of meditation in which the devotee is given glimpses of the spiritual eye and the light in the third eye through the blessings of a guru and practice of the techniques.
Amma also has techniques designed to glimpse the light from the the spinal centers and the third eye.

The life force is present in all the sensory motor nerves and cells in the body, but it is very strong in the eyes. Pressure on the eyes causes the energy or astral light to be squeezed out and made visible in the darkness of closed eyes. A blow on the head produces "stars" because astral light wants to be separated from the physical. If the head were hit hard enough, we would see these sparks of life forever separated into space. Many people think that this is a physical light and had no significance--and utterly erroneous idea. The light is astral, and it can be seen with the eyes either open, or during meditation, or at death. Many adepts, remaining conscious at the time of death, have beheld the tunnel of light in the spiritual eye ushering them into the Infinite.

~Yogananda
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