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« Reply #30 on: Jan 19, 2016 08:55 pm »

Often my back hurts, even after all these years, becuse my posture is awful; too much time spent in front of computers! But I try not to think about that and do my best. 

What I do is the first 5 minutes or so, is hongsau, but on the out breath, tighten/flex lower back muscles, the outside ones and the inside if possible, then totally relax them on the in breath. Just like PY mentions you can heal by focusing on the area and tighten the muscle. It takes a lot of time like anything else, but eventually it has helped, over time it can only strengthen at least.
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« Reply #31 on: Jan 21, 2016 01:38 am »

Thank-You for sharing your meditation routine with us. I need a little corner like u. For winnie the pooh. Have to think about that one. Hope u can do some of the back exercises in energization to stave off back pain. Sweet dreams... then.... Think of a way to start the day!
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« Reply #32 on: Mar 06, 2016 12:08 am »

Mccoy i appreciate your inspiration to concentrate more on the ajna center.

We also have a thread here for the third eye that was started sometime ago. I am happy that u have such an interest in it because it reminds me to keep up the practice... specifically - 'jyoti mudra'. At this point I just can't relate to making a marathon out of it as u have on another forum. But if it works for u and others, that is great!

I remember thinking for years I wish Amma would bless me with opening the third eye. Suddenly; quite often she would put paste on that center on my forhead.

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Do you remember Brother Turiyananda? Did you ever meet him?

i think i am getting more and more receptive to your ideas of a marathon for the kutastha center! i think we are very fortunate to have a technique to awaken this center; Jyoti Mudra
Quite often i can see some form of light even if it is physical nature it is a good way to start!

Do you remember Brother Turyananda? Did you ever meet him?
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« Reply #33 on: Mar 06, 2016 01:11 am »

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Do you remember Brother Turiyananda? Did you ever meet him?

I met him once at the Lake Shrine. It was not an inspiring meeting, rather a strange one. I asked if I could take a swim in the lake since I believed I remember there was a special blessing attached to it. He answered NO and gave further explanations in a preaching-like tone. At the moment he seemed to me curmudgeon-like. He was looking at me as if I told some blasphemy. After a while I recalled the blessing was simply attached to being in that place.
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« Reply #34 on: Mar 07, 2016 03:30 am »

The two physical eyes are given to us by our human parents to cognize this world of matter, i.e. a limited range of vibrations: owing to their limited sensibility, the physical eyes see only certain vibrations of matter. But by opening the spiritual eye man may behold God. A guru---literally, one who leads from darkness ("gu") to light ("ru")--- is he who is sent by God to help aspiring devotees to open the spiritual eye.~ Paramahansa Yogananda
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« Reply #35 on: Mar 13, 2016 11:29 am »

Found this in Wikepedia:

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"Ajna translates as "command," being considered the eye of intuition and intellect.[4] When something is seen in the mind's eye, or in a dream, it is being seen by the Ajna. It is a bridge that links gurus with disciples, allowing mind communication between two people. The sense organ and action organ associated with Ajna is the mind."

i have been attempting to start all my activities by saying a small prayer and gazing into the Ajna Center.
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« Reply #36 on: Mar 13, 2016 12:03 pm »

That sounds like a good practice. When I used to try to focus on the third eye I would do it with too much tension and cause myself discomfort. I didn't really know what I was doing. Yogananda taught to ever so slightly lift the eyes in their sockets. Right? When I strain too hard to see something it creates mental tension too.
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« Reply #37 on: Mar 19, 2016 07:56 am »

That sounds like a good practice. When I used to try to focus on the third eye I would do it with too much tension and cause myself discomfort. I didn't really know what I was doing. Yogananda taught to ever so slightly lift the eyes in their sockets. Right? When I strain too hard to see something it creates mental tension too.


Q: We are advised to concentrate on the spot in the forehead between the eyebrows. Is this right? 

A: Everyone is aware - 'I am'. Leaving aside that awareness one goes about in search of God. What is the use of fixing one's attention between the eyebrows? It is mere folly to say that God is between the eyebrows. The aim of such advice is to hep the mind to concentrate. It is one of the forcible methods to check the mind and prevent its dissipation. It is forcibly directed into one channel. It is a help to concentration...

Yes Yogananda told us that we can keep our consciousness in the spiritual eye even while having our eyes open in daily activity. This is something that i have yet to accomplish.

i really appreciate this question and answer you gave us from Ramana Maharshi. It is interesting how Ramana says that God is not there but that it helps us concentrate. Without being exposed to other people and others we often fall into the view that we 'know'. It also seems important on the spiritual path to remain open to the fact that we do not have all the answers and we can learn from the views of others. When people isolate themselves and insulate themselves from the views of others they often loose sympathy for others and become rigid in their own views. Many times i have had to adjust my own and recognize there are many ways of looking at things-- mine and what i have been told is only one. Perhaps it works best for me but perhaps not always and it may not be for someone else. This universe and other realms as well are vast with many ways of approaching things and many ways of understanding them as well. This means that someone else may have a different way of explaining things which may even help me in my own views if i remain impartial.

i do believe in the truth of the spiritual principle that it is still important to respect the views of others. There's is a path that is different and necessary for them and without tolerance how can we ever develop spiritually?
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« Reply #38 on: Mar 19, 2016 11:49 am »

Tolerating people's views is just a matter of practicality. As you say, something is necessary based on individual needs. Beyond seeking clarification, there is no point in arguing over spiritual practices. There are some people whose views I don't care for and I simply avoid their company whenever possible.

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« Reply #39 on: Mar 19, 2016 12:04 pm »

Tolerating people's views is just a matter of practicality. As you say, something is necessary based on individual needs. Beyond seeking clarification, there is no point in arguing over spiritual practices. There are some people whose views I don't care for and I simply avoid their company whenever possible.

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« Reply #40 on: Mar 19, 2016 02:21 pm »

Heh, I just meant it's not practical to correct everyone we disagree with in the slightest. Thankfully I am not anyone's guru or teacher. As your post implies, it's enough work correcting myself. I'm not against a sincere discussion for the sake of learning, though.

I thought Sri Ramana's statements on the ajna point were helpful so I shared them. You can just think about it logically. If God is all, he can't be only between the eyebrows. But concentrating on that point, as per the Guru's instruction, may be the means for someone to get that realization (that God alone is).




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« Reply #41 on: Mar 19, 2016 05:07 pm »

Heh, I just meant it's not practical to correct everyone we disagree with in the slightest. Thankfully I am not anyone's guru or teacher. As your post implies, it's enough work correcting myself. I'm not against a sincere discussion for the sake of learning, though.

I thought Sri Ramana's statements on the ajna point were helpful so I shared them. You can just think about it logically. If God is all, he can't be only between the eyebrows. But concentrating on that point, as per the Guru's instruction, may be the means for someone to get that realization (that God alone is).

It is a strange thing this thing called faith. We practice something to some extent and find that there was truth too the instructions and their assertions. Then we realize we have only chipped a little bit at the surface and there is much much more to discover and manifest in our lives. We recognize that we are in a sense just beginners who have yet much to uncover which is our true nature. Outwardly speaking we are not aware of spiritual progress. Yet now we have the buzz; we are inspired for action. Yet what is the course for us from here on out?

We can't but help recognizing that we have a veil obscuring that realization. We just can't find the light that removes it. So we use every tool available and we hope to see more clearly the flaws in our own character that keep us in the clench of darkness; In the self- satisfaction of our daily routines and finding little tid-bits of pleasure offered by this world.

It is a strange world we have been accustomed to that seems to rob our happiness intermittently with glimpses of happiness. For the most part we see what the eyes and the senses show us. But we have had encounters beyond the senses. Now we are told by the Masters we have chosen to follow that there is much more and we have just scratched the surface. They seem to be pulling us into something larger then ourselves. We begin to experience that pull. We realize more and more that it is our only salvation. We witness these Masters in action and recognize they have something we really want. We recognize they are delivering us from harm. They are coaxing us onward. They are our only hope because as much as we practice our dharma we still believe what our mind and our habits and desires tell us.

Am i alone in these thoughts? Or does someone or something respond to them?  Perhaps it is a way to get them clarified to make sense of them. Huh?
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« Reply #42 on: Mar 23, 2016 10:43 pm »

One devotee was dozing off as he was trying to meditate. Amma threw a chocolate Kiss at him. Amma has perfect aim. The chocolate hit  right on the spot between his eyebrows. The man opened his eyes with a start. With the chocolate in his hand, the man looked around to find out where it had come. Seeing his plight Amma burst into laughter. When he realized that Amma had thrown it, the man's face lit up. He touched the chocolate to his forehead, as if bowing to it. But the next moment he laughed aloud, and then got up from his seat and walked up to Amma.

Questioner: The Kiss hit the right spot, between the eyebrows, the spiritual center. Maybe this will help to open my third eye.

Amma: It won't

Questioner: Why?

Amma: Because you said "maybe"; this means you are doubtful. Your faith is not complete. How can it happen if you have no faith?

Questioner: So are You saying that it would have happened if I had full faith?

Amma: Yes. If you have full faith realization can happen at anytime, anywhere.

Questioner: Our you serious?

Amma: Yes, of course.

Questioner:Oh, my God... did I lose a great opportunity?

Amma: Don't worry. Be aware and be wakeful. Opportunities will come again. Be patient and keep trying.

The man looked a little disappointed and turned to walk back to his seat.

Amma: (tapping him on his back) By the way why did you laugh out loud?

Hearing the question the devotee again broke into laughter.

Questioner: As I dozed through my meditation I was having a wonderful dream. I saw you throw a chocolate kiss to wake me up. I suddenly woke up. It took me a few moments to realize you really had thrown me a chocolate Kiss.

Along with the man all the devotees who sat around her broke into laughter.

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« Reply #43 on: Mar 24, 2016 06:15 am »

Heh, I just meant it's not practical to correct everyone we disagree with in the slightest. Thankfully I am not anyone's guru or teacher. As your post implies, it's enough work correcting myself. I'm not against a sincere discussion for the sake of learning, though.

I thought Sri Ramana's statements on the ajna point were helpful so I shared them. You can just think about it logically. If God is all, he can't be only between the eyebrows. But concentrating on that point, as per the Guru's instruction, may be the means for someone to get that realization (that God alone is).


This post makes sense to me... i just did not understand the part where you said;  "Thankfully I am not anyone's guru or teacher. As your post implies," Could you point out where you thought i implied that? Thanks b. It was not intended. But i cannot even find the source of the implication you are speaking of. Or perhaps you are agreeing with me that it is enough to work on ourselves? How can any one be a guru or spiritual teacher until they have mastered themselves? i have much to conquer yet. Sometimes people do not even understand that when you try to explain it to them. Yet my hope is that we can continue to discuss our practices and learn from one another.
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« Reply #44 on: Mar 24, 2016 08:08 am »

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Or perhaps you are agreeing with me that it is enough to work on ourselves?

Yeah I was agreeing with you on that.
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