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« Reply #45 on: May 18, 2016 01:13 am »

Steve thanks for reminding, we can never talk too much about the SE, the Spiritual Eye.

If we were able to concentrate constantly on that while carrying out our duties we would already be within the saints.

I appreciated all you post and this part I find particularly inspiring and is what I'm goign to practice, at least trying to practice:


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Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing is for God and Guru. it is 1 way to connect with God.

I think our job will carry power that way.

If we have a job which is not mental rather physical, we can draw coordination, efficiency or simply work with a blissful mind.

If we are committed to an intellectual job, we can receive inspiration and creativity. connecting with God means connecting with his infinite creative power, which will flow back from the mind to the results of the job. I'm firmly convinced about that.
I too have been reminded by your aspirations. It is easy to forget but i have found myself gazing more and more often at the spiritual eye especially when meditating. It really keeps your consciousness awake and ready and u r less likely to slip into a passive or subconscious state.
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« Reply #46 on: May 25, 2016 11:38 am »

Steve thanks for reminding, we can never talk too much about the SE, the Spiritual Eye.

If we were able to concentrate constantly on that while carrying out our duties we would already be within the saints.

I appreciated all you post and this part I find particularly inspiring and is what I'm goign to practice, at least trying to practice:


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Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing is for God and Guru. it is 1 way to connect with God.

I think our job will carry power that way.

If we have a job which is not mental rather physical, we can draw coordination, efficiency or simply work with a blissful mind.

If we are committed to an intellectual job, we can receive inspiration and creativity. connecting with God means connecting with his infinite creative power, which will flow back from the mind to the results of the job. I'm firmly convinced about that.

i  usually look up towards the spiritual eye most of meditation practice. i do not know y it is so hard to remember the technique that Paramahansa Yogananda gave to  Brother Bhaktananda though i am trying to implement it more and more in my life. It is nice to have the inspiration of another devotee that has a similar aspiration. i find myself often remembering people and friends i have known in my life and the various spiritual practices and qualities they had/have as well as the pleasantness and humor they exude. This is true of u as well!
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« Reply #47 on: Aug 01, 2016 05:40 am »

Steve thanks for reminding, we can never talk too much about the SE, the Spiritual Eye.

If we were able to concentrate constantly on that while carrying out our duties we would already be within the saints.

I appreciated all you post and this part I find particularly inspiring and is what I'm goign to practice, at least trying to practice:


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Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing is for God and Guru. it is 1 way to connect with God.

I think our job will carry power that way.

If we have a job which is not mental rather physical, we can draw coordination, efficiency or simply work with a blissful mind.

If we are committed to an intellectual job, we can receive inspiration and creativity. connecting with God means connecting with his infinite creative power, which will flow back from the mind to the results of the job. I'm firmly convinced about that.

Helpful thoughts mccoy.

Paramahansa Yogananda said this: The two physical eyes are given to us by our human parents to cognize this world of matter, i.e. , a limited range of vibrations; owing to their limited sensibility, the physical eyes see only certain vibrations of matter. But by opening the spiritual eye man may behold God. A guru--literally, one who leads from darkness ("gu") to light ("ru")-- is he who is sent by God to help aspiring devotees to open the spiritual eye.
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« Reply #48 on: Aug 02, 2016 02:09 pm »

Steve, too bad the opening keeps so long. At the beginning of my practice I was really convinced it would have taken just a few years...
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« Reply #49 on: Aug 02, 2016 05:59 pm »

Steve, too bad the opening keeps so long. At the beginning of my practice I was really convinced it would have taken just a few years...

In some ways we reflect some of our challenges. Inner struggles are often magnified in outer events and people. Perhaps we r meant to help one another and 'see' things together as we aspire to find the portal to freedom thru the spiritual eye. As a kid we used to have this idea of how ugly a cyclops was. Now a days i get this feeling that i am looking out into a world of darkness with my physical eyes since the spiritual eye can see so much more that is really there. We r like prisoners of our own sensory jail cells. The fact that there are others out there who are making attempts of proving to themselves that what the Master's said is true is quite an impetus in our practice. We are always heavily influenced by the vibrations of others.... Their thoughts and their presence. We may be with someone for sometime and suddenly realize how much we are selves have changed form just being in their presence.

i have noticed a few results of practice though. One is this; God does not seem to follow a logical sequence of outcomes. That is; we may be gazing at the third eye for many hours but not 'see' anything. However after practice we may have this incredible feeling of calm peace and focus and thinking much clearer; as just one example. Another part of practice is that i have noticed if i am at all feeling exhaustion the practice is just not going to be good. It is hard enough holding your eyes slightly upwards without feeling tired besides. Those eyes are just going to come down. So it is very important to feel rested before endeavoring long practices keeping the eyes in an upward position. One other important part of practice is relaxation. As soon as the body starts tensing or the mind resists,we are going to have challenges. So i have to be in constant observational mode; watching my attitude towards practice. Often i have to tell my mind and body to calm down. To tense and relax body parts and possibly move in a different position.

i think most of us go into this with naive optimism only to later realize the work to be done. But it separates those who endure from those who fall off along the way. There is really no turning back now mccoy it all looks so superficial the way we see others live and the way we once did....the way we often view ourselves. We just have to appreciate the small accomplishments we make. Because; they are there if we do not expect too much. If we do expect to much we may find ourselves expecting too much of others as well. There is so much to recognize about attitude in our practice. We may even find that God has a whole different plan for us then we have conjured up in our little thought processes. There may be some other things that the Masters are working on us about and the ajna practice is a convenient way to get thru to us about other spiritual issues. SlOw by SlOw!
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« Reply #50 on: Aug 03, 2016 04:34 pm »


Some of my past supernatural experiences would score a very high degree of probability of being true.

For example my experience of seeing with the astral sight while sleeping.
Or my experience of being X-rayed by a clarvoyant who told me an anatomic detail she would have never been able to know in other ways.

Some others would rate low. For example my seeing or dreaming the devil pretty often as a young boy.

i fond your experiences of interest to me especially seeing with astral sight while sleeping. Can you remember any of these and describe?

Brother Bhaktananda on the third eye retold:

Brother Bhaktananda used to take care of the gardens at self realization fellowship. Paramahansa Yogananda would walk in the gardens. he would come up to him and say: every now and then lift your eyes and say that what your doing is for God and Guru. It is 1 way to connect with God.
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« Reply #51 on: Aug 04, 2016 01:32 am »

i think most of us go into this with naive optimism only to later realize the work to be done. But it separates those who endure from those who fall off along the way.

I totally concur about the naive optimism and the endurance test
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« Reply #52 on: Aug 04, 2016 01:49 am »

Steve, I still remember those instances.

First one, I was a young boy about 15 of age. I dreamt a dark shape slowly approaching me during sleep, coming close to my head. I got scared and woke up... And there was the shape of my father in the darkness, who came close to the piece of furniture alongside the bed to grab some object (he used to suffer insomnia). My dream was rather something occurring in the real world which I saw with my astral eyes. My father confirmed me that I was sound asleep and with closed eyes when he approached me.

Second one, I was 33 and sleeping in a backpackers hostel in Australia. It was a wooden bungalow. One of the roommates, the one occupying the bunk bed above me, was a young German lady but that night she was out. In Aus often they didn't worry about sex separation in sleeping rooms and girls apparently did not worry about that. I dreamt an aboriginal woman coming outside the bungalow and opening the door, then climbing the bunk and falling asleep. When I woke up during the night (I never sleep without waking up several times) I realized the German girl had returned late at night and gone to sleep. My astral sight saw her, during my sleep and it was not a dream. Only inaccuracy was that the astral sight, maybe because of the darkness, mistook the German lady for an aboriginal Australian lady.

I had a few more instances of that, especially when people approached me during sleep. It seems to be the leftover of an ancient survival mechanism not related to the physical sight, since the eyes are closed. Astral sight seems to be the only plausible explanation.

 
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« Reply #53 on: Aug 04, 2016 05:29 am »

Steve, I still remember those instances.

First one, I was a young boy about 15 of age. I dreamt a dark shape slowly approaching me during sleep, coming close to my head. I got scared and woke up... And there was the shape of my father in the darkness, who came close to the piece of furniture alongside the bed to grab some object (he used to suffer insomnia). My dream was rather something occurring in the real world which I saw with my astral eyes. My father confirmed me that I was sound asleep and with closed eyes when he approached me.

Second one, I was 33 and sleeping in a backpackers hostel in Australia. It was a wooden bungalow. One of the roommates, the one occupying the bunk bed above me, was a young German lady but that night she was out. In Aus often they didn't worry about sex separation in sleeping rooms and girls apparently did not worry about that. I dreamt an aboriginal woman coming outside the bungalow and opening the door, then climbing the bunk and falling asleep. When I woke up during the night (I never sleep without waking up several times) I realized the German girl had returned late at night and gone to sleep. My astral sight saw her, during my sleep and it was not a dream. Only inaccuracy was that the astral sight, maybe because of the darkness, mistook the German lady for an aboriginal Australian lady.

I had a few more instances of that, especially when people approached me during sleep. It seems to be the leftover of an ancient survival mechanism not related to the physical sight, since the eyes are closed. Astral sight seems to be the only plausible explanation.

Thanks mccoy it is quite Intriguing just what sleep and dreaming gives us in visions and soul travel. It is a way to relax the conscious minds hold on our reality. Which is often needed to experience 'altered' states.
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« Reply #54 on: Feb 07, 2017 09:18 pm »

Where to find God?

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« Reply #55 on: Sep 20, 2017 10:54 pm »

Resurrecting this thread, but the spiritual rewards we've been promised by the great saints are too hard to achieve, objectively too difficult.

Time to quit? Nope, but when there is no reinforcement, no positive feedback, meditation just becomes a grinding along without real enthusiasm.

I don't know what's wrong with me or with Raja Yoga, maybe nothing, maybe it's just supposed to be a boring grinding along and Yogananda wrote his book just as an enticing supersalesman. He was successfull and I'm very glad I bought his teachings and went thru his discipline, but I imagined something far more lively than this meditative dullness.
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« Reply #56 on: Oct 05, 2017 01:56 pm »

Resurrecting this thread, but the spiritual rewards we've been promised by the great saints are too hard to achieve, objectively too difficult.

Time to quit? Nope, but when there is no reinforcement, no positive feedback, meditation just becomes a grinding along without real enthusiasm.

I don't know what's wrong with me or with Raja Yoga, maybe nothing, maybe it's just supposed to be a boring grinding along and Yogananda wrote his book just as an enticing supersalesman. He was successfull and I'm very glad I bought his teachings and went thru his discipline, but I imagined something far more lively than this meditative dullness.


I believe that u r going thru a temporary period. We are all satisfying desires here on this planet. When our desire for spiritual growth and understanding is uprooted by other worldly desires the gurus help us with those as well and we are exposed to others with similar desires. It is not that you are not making progress and finding people with similar aspirations because i have some of the same struggles u have. I think we just expect too much when our thoughts and consciousness is still very materialistic. Yet we find others who have made some progress as limited as it may seem. If we cannot or do not continue our association with others of like mind and aspiration we are likely to fall further into worldly associations.

Please consider someone who has found enlightenment. It is important to associate with those who can lift us out of our own despair and and spiritual doldrums. Amma will be in Italy next month. I believe being in her presence will help you. It always exposes me to spiritual inspiration and lifts me out of self indulging despair. Being around materially minded people day in and day out can thwart are spiritual progress and dull our spiritual awareness. If we have not made sufficient progress on our own we may at times find ourselves on a spiritual oasis amid a vast spiritual desert around us. This can be discouraging and we often have to reach out to others and recognize help when it knocks softly at our door. It is important to continually bring the presence of others of like mind into our orb as well as asking for the help of the great ones. Our thoughts and moods are often great barriers to spiritual unfoldment. These have been present for many incarnations and such samskaras are not so easily removed as we comfortably fall back into the amnesia of our previous habits of many incarnations.  Yet we come to have more compassion when recognizing that changing our thoughts is not as easy as it may seem. Having friends like u here brings out the highest qualities in me as well.

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