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« on: Jul 07, 2012 04:36 am »

while seeing amma she made the comment that those who give others the silent treatment and stick their nose up in the air actually have a form of mental illness. sometimes we wonder about ourselves when this treatment is given to us however we should realize that people do practice meanness and this kind of behavior is a result of being so wrapped up in ourselves and our ego that there is only one view; our own.

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« Reply #1 on: Jul 07, 2012 07:39 am »

while seeing amma she made the comment that those who give others the silent treatment and stick their nose up in the air actually have a form of mental illness. sometimes we wonder about ourselves when this treatment is given to us however we should realize that people do practice meaness and this kind of behavior is a result of beimg so wrapped up in ourselves and our ego that there is only one view; our own.

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hey Jitendra !  Cool

ever think of the possibility that life could be presenting people with a detour ?

and what is thought " silent treatment " isn't really so ?

I travel from branch to branch, exploring the forest  Grin

not always available for communication

maybe take amma saying with grain of salt ? or pepper ? 
adds to flavor of a meal  Grin Cool

Confucious say " man who walks with nose in air, trips over own feet "  Shocked
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 07, 2012 12:38 pm »

while seeing amma she made the comment that those who give others the silent treatment and stick their nose up in the air actually have a form of mental illness. sometimes we wonder about ourselves when this treatment is given to us however we should realize that people do practice meaness and this kind of behavior is a result of beimg so wrapped up in ourselves and our ego that there is only one view; our own.

In the long or short of it some of us come around to mirror us back smiplified. Some people
become so complicated in the conundrums of their thoughts and feelings that its good to look
in the clear mirror of simplification.

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hey Jitendra !  Cool

ever think of the possibility that life could be presenting people with a detour ?

and what is thought " silent treatment " isn't really so ?

I travel from branch to branch, exploring the forest  Grin

not always available for communication

maybe take amma saying with grain of salt ? or pepper ? 
adds to flavor of a meal  Grin Cool

Confucious say " man who walks with nose in air, trips over own feet "  Shocked

Definatlely; for the person that the silemt treatment is given to there is a detour..
understanding where the problem lies gives the determination to move on.
When we see and understand such detours we know there is nothing  we can do
to help. All we can do is wait till the path becomes clear again. It is important to read
the signs that others put up. Jumping from tree to tree is one thing. However; if a friend
is consistantly unavailable we understand that we can only wait for them to realize
where the problem lies or we can decide to never return to that road again. It is best to recognise
the symptoms of illness. It can save you from undeserved grief. Some people leave a trail
littered with pain and sorrow. Until they recognize this there is nothing you can do to help.
It is wise to get a grasp of that fact.

 In the long or short of it some of us come around to mirror us back simplified. Some people
become so complicated in the conundrums of their thoughts and feelings that its good to look
in the clear mirror of simplification to save us from exhaustion.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 07, 2012 05:25 pm »

"if a friend is consistently unavailable "....
no detour there, fact of life
times change, people change
life goes on

if looking to simplify, let go
give it up dude !  Grin Cool

hey amma ! bit of a stretch calling silent treatment mental illness


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« Reply #4 on: Jul 07, 2012 05:30 pm »

"if a friend is consistently unavailable "....
no detour there, fact of life
times change, people change
life goes on

if looking to simplify, let go
give it up dude !  Grin Cool

hey amma ! bit of a stretch calling silent treatment mental illness


some people are forever some people get well thank God for that.
her understanding is beyond a stretch. It is limitless. There is more
than one story that proves that. I am fortunate that I have not
given up.
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 07, 2012 05:47 pm »

"if a friend is consistently unavailable "....
no detour there, fact of life
times change, people change
life goes on

if looking to simplify, let go
give it up dude !  Grin Cool

hey amma ! bit of a stretch calling silent treatment mental illness


some people are forever some people get well thank God for that.
her understanding is beyond a stretch. It is limitless. There is more
than one story that proves that. I am for fortunate that I have not
given up.

good for you  Cool
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 07, 2012 06:22 pm »

"if a friend is consistently unavailable "....
no detour there, fact of life
times change, people change
life goes on

if looking to simplify, let go
give it up dude !  Grin Cool

hey amma ! bit of a stretch calling silent treatment mental illness


some people are forever some people get well thank God for that.
her understanding is beyond a stretch. It is limitless. There is more
than one story that proves that. I am for fortunate that I have not
given up.

good for you  Cool

I do not know if this makes sense to you
but your presence has always given me
clarity. One does not have to agree to help
someone else this is an important lesson
I have learned about life. When we think
outside our rigid attitudes it is amazing what
can happen to our consciousness. Having
the training of higher guides makes us realize
that our wisom is foolishness compared to
the unfolding awareness they are bringing us.

Thanks for your squizdom my friend. God works
thru everything, every situation if we could but
see with an open heart.

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« Reply #7 on: Jul 07, 2012 06:57 pm »

it is in sharing that we learn from one another

thanx for the opportunity  Cool
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 08, 2012 02:46 am »

it is in sharing that we learn from one another

thanx for the opportunity  Cool

Hi squirrel. Mental illness is not an uncommon feature in spiritual
seekers. People who travel the edges of reality easily slip
into the abyss. Yet to me it is worth the risk rather than
traveling the safe and sure path that leads to spiritual amnesia and
death in normalicy. We must recognize that we-like the
earth itself-go thru periodic earthquakes or spiritual siezures
that awaken us to the possibilities of human potential. This
occurs thru illness, social misfunctions or psychiatric problems
to name a vew. People who have spiritual potential developed
from previous expressions eventually awaken to what
has been so awkward in their life that expressed itself
in so many crazy ways. I myself have gone thru such
changes and disruptions in my life. Thank God there
was protection from the higher guides and realms
to help me through.


Later we find ways to incorporate these realizations into our lives
in a way that does not disturb our social life and friendships.
We become more comfortable with our spirituality and find
outlets and friends with similar goals and interests. We learn
the significance of these divine beings who are brought to our aid
and support in our journey towards our home in spirit.

Jitendra



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« Reply #9 on: Jul 16, 2012 03:30 am »

"Silent Treatment"

the emphasis is not on 'silence',
silence is only significant once realizing that the key word is "treatment"
-- treatment is being used to mean "reaction / action"...   or the way/method someone chooses to interact.

"Silent Treatment" does not emphasize "silence", moreso consider the INTENT of the "treatment" as "division, seperation"

Remember, a "passive" action (ile.- silence, non-engaging, non-responsing) with negative intent,  can be just as sharp a sword as an "aggresive / outward" action (i.e. - hurtful words, lies, violence, etc.).

So Amma is likely trying to remind us that we should guard against veiling our intents and actions... be mindful that we are all interconnected.   
A Passive meanness is still hurtful.

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« Reply #10 on: Jul 16, 2012 11:06 pm »

"Silent Treatment"

the emphasis is not on 'silence',
silence is only significant once realizing that the key word is "treatment"
-- treatment is being used to mean "reaction / action"...   or the way/method someone chooses to interact.

"Silent Treatment" does not emphasize "silence", moreso consider the INTENT of the "treatment" as "division, seperation"

Remember, a "passive" action (ile.- silence, non-engaging, non-responsing) with negative intent,  can be just as sharp a sword as an "aggresive / outward" action (i.e. - hurtful words, lies, violence, etc.).

So Amma is likely trying to remind us that we should guard against veiling our intents and actions... be mindful that we are all interconnected.   
A Passive meanness is still hurtful.

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Thanks Nomaste. It is nice to have you with us.

You are clarifying my point. Yes it is for us to recognise that it
is not our karma. When others do this they are creating karma
for themselves and we eventually recognize that they are in fact
 only exhibiting their own state of consciousness. They may have
 an excuse like they are going thru something or thru a transition
but this not explain and long period of silence beween people
who were previously close. When we arr the recipient of such abuse
we should also recognize that when a door shuts on ou face there
are others that are opening.

                                      Jitendra
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 16, 2012 11:23 pm »


They may have an excuse like they are going thru something or thru a transition
but this not explain and long period of silence beween people
who were previously close. When we arr the recipient of such abuse
we should also recognize that when a door shuts on ou face there
are others that are opening.

                                      Jitendra

woaaaaaaaah brother Jitendra !   Shocked

some harsh judgements

have you walked in their shoes ?
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 16, 2012 11:30 pm »


They may have an excuse like they are going thru something or thru a transition
but this not explain and long period of silence beween people
who were previously close. When we are the recipient of such abuse
we should also recognize that when a door shuts on out face there
are others that are opening.

                                      Jitendra

woaaaaaaaah brother Jitendra !   Shocked

some harsh judgements

have you walked in their shoes ?
I have always given plenty of chances and requests to respond. Eventually
we have to recognise we have done everything we can to help and it is up to them.
It is enough to walk in my own shoes. As a matter of fact I need to get
a new pair and walk some friendlier paths.
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 16, 2012 11:37 pm »

shoes binding, yet necessary  Cool

continuous harping on issue, not necessary  Grin

your forum, your choice of course
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 17, 2012 02:05 am »

shoes binding, yet necessary  Cool

continuous harping on issue, not necessary  Grin

your forum, your choice of course

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it that I suppose by rights, I should climb down
the tree a bit before lettng go of the branch.
Probably should have followed squirrel's advice
before letting others take me up so high. 
yet the view was sooo wonderful and then......
I had to find my way back down.
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