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« Reply #15 on: Jul 17, 2012 04:10 am »

Sometimes we may harp out of tune but why is it that birds can be like people sometimes? Sometimes they crap on your head when they fly by? Sometimes we just need to buy larger hats that cover our heads and defend our brains. Life is so confusin' sometimes  Wink  Grin Where's the Wizard of Oz when you need him. Oh i forgot ....click my heels together three times....and say, "there's no place like home"  Grin  CRAP! there goes another bird, shessh  Shocked
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« Reply #16 on: Dec 26, 2012 05:58 pm »

"Silent Treatment"

the emphasis is not on 'silence',
silence is only significant once realizing that the key word is "treatment"
-- treatment is being used to mean "reaction / action"...   or the way/method someone chooses to interact.

"Silent Treatment" does not emphasize "silence", moreso consider the INTENT of the "treatment" as "division, seperation"

Remember, a "passive" action (ile.- silence, non-engaging, non-responsing) with negative intent,  can be just as sharp a sword as an "aggresive / outward" action (i.e. - hurtful words, lies, violence, etc.).

So Amma is likely trying to remind us that we should guard against veiling our intents and actions... be mindful that we are all interconnected.   
A Passive meanness is still hurtful.

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Thank You Namaste2All  Recently i looked at this post and realized how much it had to say." Remember, a "passive" action (ile.- silence, non-engaging, non-responsing) with negative intent,  can be just as sharp a sword as an "aggresive / outward"  action"  Fascinating insight divine friend. 

i am very happy to say that the person giving me the 'silent treatment' is now communicating again and sometimes we have to look beyond some of the things people do because there is really something very worthwhile about them despite some of their quirks. Besides when we look carefully into the mirror of those around us we see that love wears some strange faces at times and we begin to recognize those faces in ourselves as well.

Like a serpent that has been injured: the  ego also recoils but it still has a venomous strike and must be watched  with constant awareness and caution.

When there are differences between people they often seek refuge in other relationships or people and forget the importance of the people that were in their life. Yet after they find that new relationships pose problems also they often go back to old standbys.

It was nice of you to give so much thought to my post about being given the silent treatment. i would think that you yourself have experienced this treatment to write so clearly about it.

Don't you think it is amazing how such a realized soul like Amma continues to bring people together? Yes? Her love is boundless. Even a small quote of her's can bring a change of consiousness and mindset.

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« Reply #17 on: Dec 27, 2012 03:52 am »

Cheers Jitendra,
In the little human kosha (sheath)
-- in that dimension of experience, when magnetized,...

seems it causes a weariness,
as it is just so many repeating patterns
so many that seem so disconnected...

it is the contrast of Nature (when magnetized within Creation) is all,
and it helps gain compassion for all still 'hypnotized' to the Cosmic Motion Picture shows outer dramas...

I speak to Her (Divine) in such times,
how we might liberate moreso...

She (Divine) is so patient and loving... so gentle, and humble, so always... it is so sweet...
what can a little Donkey do, but Trust, and put one foot in front of the other,
and trust it fall safely upon the Path, and not upon a Void....

As in the devotional chant,
"Thou my stars are gone, and the sea is dark,
Still I see the Path, thru thy Mercy"

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« Reply #18 on: Dec 27, 2012 05:53 am »

Cheers Jitendra,
In the little human kosha (sheath)
-- in that dimension of experience, when magnetized,...

seems it causes a weariness,
as it is just so many repeating patterns
so many that seem so disconnected...

it is the contrast of Nature (when magnetized within Creation) is all,
and it helps gain compassion for all still 'hypnotized' to the Cosmic Motion Picture shows outer dramas...

I speak to Her (Divine) in such times,
how we might liberate moreso...

She (Divine) is so patient and loving... so gentle, and humble, so always... it is so sweet...
what can a little Donkey do, but Trust, and put one foot in front of the other,
and trust it fall safely upon the Path, and not upon a Void....

As in the devotional chant,
"Thou my stars are gone, and the sea is dark,
Still I see the Path, thru thy Mercy"

OM


Nomaste

U seem to b getting more comfy with humility.

We have some very deep samskaras that we carry with us from the past.
We have looked to satisfy certain desires with others in relationships,
service, desire and otherwise. It is materializatiom of our ideals
trying to find fullfilment in this physical universe. Being guided
by the great ones we are being shone the dusty inner hallways of our consciousnes.
Here lie the hidden corridors of the 'needs' we have harbored
for incarnations. Suddenly the pace of evolution speeds up and
thru tbe use of kriya and other progressive meditation techniques
the pace of our  evolution increases and exposes to  us to all kinds
of associations that are often unresolved emotional power spots.

Jitendra
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« Reply #19 on: Dec 27, 2012 09:19 pm »

Meditation-borne (Divine) Wisdom seems Key.

This Wisdom is like (Greek Goddess) Athena's Sheild
which sheltered the citizens of Athens
(in the Parthenon statue, Athena has a Sheild on her left side, and a coiled risen snake being the citizens, is behind that shield).

We may consider the shield as the Wisdom, which keeps the snake (Primordial Kundalini) from being Precipitated into Chains of Deformation (Maya).

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In these ways, we seem to disconnect the interconnections; begin to be able to observe the patterns play out - while remaining dispassioned...
meaning "Equanimity of Heart" (Feeling / Emotional)
meaning "Even-Mindedness" (Intelligence)

therby the oscillations / waves do not effect the boat...

and then the WILL is able to be harnessed more effectively to the Divine Will...  
Harmony and Peace arise further and futher...

never so much destruction, as simply shifting focus... demagnetizing...

we kinda arise to aligning our Being with the frequency of the Divine Will... the side-effects diminish...   then stillness begins to reign in the Human Kosha sheath, and as there are fewer bound gunk bound in the Human Kosha,  the Heart Nucleus is not obscurred, but flows more naturally.


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« Reply #20 on: Dec 27, 2012 09:37 pm »

of Humility...

seems it simply is one of the sidhhis (ascetic majesties) in this lil donkey devotee view...  even if not sure it is spelled out in the formal treastises (but it may...)

Humility seems natural to arise,
when we increasingly view without boundaries the qualities (good fruit and bad fruit) in any Human form...
are seen less and less identified with individual, but with Divine Laws and Divine manifestations of the Cosmic Play...
when we begin to "view" (by Grace) the Soul (instead of the Man\Woman garment),
it becomes so liberating...

For those that overeat, drink alchohol or drugs, or bound to pretty faces, or steal, or lie...  that is not the Soul, that is not what we see as the Being...   We see the Beam of Light pure, and simply also observe it has been defracted and dissipated and bent some of it's light into an outer garment of these dramas...   and those that are playing out those roles are serving "me"... that I not fall to that degree again...   that little me, grows in Virya (Moral Courage) and if little me liberates from those seed tendencies (even if they be of little gravity compared to a great alchoholic, or criminal -- well, when little me liberates, it is like a drop of a rock in the pool... and the ripples are sensed by the others in the pool... there arises in all, a portion of insight for liberation....


but mostly it is that other Beamlets are serving me, taking on the roles that little me can no longer stomach...  I renounce nearly out of a 'weakness' in a way...  for even wealth, and vitality are renounced...   we give all fruit (ripe or rotten, sweet or sour) to the Divine... for there is none but the Divine anyways...

so humility, seems simply a matter of the Divine Ascetic Majesties, Truth simply settles upon the garment, further and further manifesting at times...  (but always in Chitta Heart Nucleus)...

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« Reply #21 on: Jan 10, 2013 12:53 am »

of Humility...

seems it simply is one of the sidhhis (ascetic majesties) in this lil donkey devotee view...  even if not sure it is spelled out in the formal treastises (but it may...)

Humility seems natural to arise,
when we increasingly view without boundaries the qualities (good fruit and bad fruit) in any Human form...
are seen less and less identified with individual, but with Divine Laws and Divine manifestations of the Cosmic Play...
when we begin to "view" (by Grace) the Soul (instead of the Man\Woman garment),
it becomes so liberating...

For those that overeat, drink alchohol or drugs, or bound to pretty faces, or steal, or lie...  that is not the Soul, that is not what we see as the Being...   We see the Beam of Light pure, and simply also observe it has been defracted and dissipated and bent some of it's light into an outer garment of these dramas...   and those that are playing out those roles are serving "me"... that I not fall to that degree again...   that little me, grows in Virya (Moral Courage) and if little me liberates from those seed tendencies (even if they be of little gravity compared to a great alchoholic, or criminal -- well, when little me liberates, it is like a drop of a rock in the pool... and the ripples are sensed by the others in the pool... there arises in all, a portion of insight for liberation....


but mostly it is that other Beamlets are serving me, taking on the roles that little me can no longer stomach...  I renounce nearly out of a 'weakness' in a way...  for even wealth, and vitality are renounced...   we give all fruit (ripe or rotten, sweet or sour) to the Divine... for there is none but the Divine anyways...

so humility, seems simply a matter of the Divine Ascetic Majesties, Truth simply settles upon the garment, further and further manifesting at times...  (but always in Chitta Heart Nucleus)...

OM

Well thought out insight Namaste2All. especially this part:

 those that are playing out those roles are serving "me"... that I not fall to that degree again...   that little me, grows in Virya (Moral Courage) and if little me liberates from those seed tendencies (even if they be of little gravity compared to a great alchoholic, or criminal -- well, when little me liberates, it is like a drop of a rock in the pool... and the ripples are sensed by the others in the pool... there arises in all, a portion of insight for liberation....

Others serving us thru their involvement in Maya. I'll keep that in mind next time i feel as though something or someone is difficult. Very interesting outlook Namaste2All.

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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2013 12:59 pm »

while seeing amma she made the comment that those who give others the silent treatment and stick their nose up in the air actually have a form of mental illness. sometimes we wonder about ourselves when this treatment is given to us however we should realize that people do practice meaness and this kind of behavior is a result of beimg so wrapped up in ourselves and our ego that there is only one view; our own.

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I have witnessed this in people who have been close to me especially recently. I have to remind myself what she (Amma) has said. Jesus was left by all his friends. Yet he still was able to give love to them. Isn't that an incredible feat?

If we make mistakes a true friend seeing this does not leave us and give us the silent treatment. Seeing where we have
erred he/she is there to help us understand.

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2016 02:17 am »

There is nothing wrong with practicing silence but some people do it listening to baseball games and other things while not talking to a friend. When one practices silence it is important to ask oneself this: Is it because i hold unfriendly feelings towards someone else?
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2016 05:06 am »

There is nothing wrong with practicing silence but some people do it listening to baseball games and other things while not talking to a friend. When one practices silence it is important to ask oneself this: Is it because i hold unfriendly feelings towards someone else?

We have better ways of communicating. The family that has.... Smiley together stays together.

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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2016 05:25 am »

There is nothing wrong with practicing silence but some people do it listening to baseball games and other things while not talking to a friend. When one practices silence it is important to ask oneself this: Is it because i hold unfriendly feelings towards someone else?

We have better ways of communicating. The family that has.... Smiley together stays together.

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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2016 05:36 am »

There is nothing wrong with practicing silence but some people do it listening to baseball games and other things while not talking to a friend. When one practices silence it is important to ask oneself this: Is it because i hold unfriendly feelings towards someone else?

We have better ways of communicating. The family that has.... Smiley together stays together.

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« Reply #27 on: Aug 08, 2017 04:24 pm »

while seeing amma she made the comment that those who give others the silent treatment and stick their nose up in the air actually have a form of mental illness. sometimes we wonder about ourselves when this treatment is given to us however we should realize that people do practice meanness and this kind of behavior is a result of being so wrapped up in ourselves and our ego that there is only one view; our own.

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i think this was one of the most important bits of wisdom i heard Amma say and while searching for something here at the portal i came across it again. Kind people just don't treat others this way. We often have to come to the realization that we ourselves project kindness on others when in fact they may not be kind. When we come to the realization they are not; it baffles us.  Amma explains many human liabilities easily and often in a timely manner.
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