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« on: Jul 17, 2012 02:59 pm »

in southern california people are more familiar about reincarnation. so I I am not here to convince you. there was a boy who is was a  meditators son. he kept thinking about a boat. on several occasions he talked about this boat. so a friend and his mother decided to sit down and talk to him about this. he said he was on the titanic as an operator radio for the radio. he tried to swim but went down. this life he is a very good swimmer.

many christians believe it when you die you go to heaven. well you may go to a heavenly realm but you don't stay there. we are pulled back here by desire in past actions. how are you look is determined by patterns of behavior and your friends are also a result of the past. how we think and how we treat other people will determine our next lives.

a little boy screamed his first words in English after being born : "not again". that is because we have to learn to walk and talk again go to school again and get beat up again etc. we come back again and again like a man bound to a wheel going under the water and then coming above the water to get a grasp of air.

our souls seeks a perfection and a joy and happiness a perfect love. we know that there is something  more than what is here. Our soul senses that we should have power like a christ or a Krishna. There is a frustration because we are not getting what we want in this life
it is the soul trying to get out of this dream.  it is not necessarily bad. the problem is that because of this we expect perfection from the people around us.

there is a way out. sleep we become disconnected from this drama and this life.
when we get away from the senses we start feeling better. that is why we meditate.
the more we are identified with the outer world the more pain we experience.
we are not discounting the senses. yet when we  meditate we can find some happiness out here in this world.

I was at a 3 hour meditation in a small town of guatemala.
there was a small girl that sat there 3 hours quietly in lotus position.
I am sure what do you do when you sit there for 3 hours quietly and she said that she becomes 1 with krishna. this is because of her good karma from past life experience.

if you have a good karma from being healthy in a past life you may be able  to smoke a cigar like george burns for your whole life. he smoked a cigar till a late age. but in another life he may have to suffer for this. in the same way the memories of past spiritual effort will blossom fourth.

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« Reply #1 on: Jul 18, 2012 09:40 am »

So is the ying yang of the future a continuous circle of duality that will never end like the universe that has an endless amount on energy that may hold the key to what our lives are all about? Possibly the "learning" curve may be at 90 degrees and who really knows what is around the "bend"? One can 'bend' their minds in multiple directions but the continuous circle of life is never ending~~~~~~O around and around she goes~~~ better watch out she might end up, going up your nose  Grin  and then life, may smell like a rose  Grin but whooo whooo whooo really knows?  Undecided   The door of the two worlds is open now. Don't find yourself asleep.  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 07, 2012 01:17 pm »

So is the ying yang of the future a continuous circle of duality that will never end like the universe that has an endless amount on energy that may hold the key to what our lives are all about? Possibly the "learning" curve may be at 90 degrees and who really knows what is around the "bend"? One can 'bend' their minds in multiple directions but the continuous circle of life is never ending~~~~~~O around and around she goes~~~ better watch out she might end up, going up your nose  Grin  and then life, may smell like a rose  Grin but whooo whooo whooo really knows?  Undecided   The door of the two worlds is open now. Don't find yourself asleep.  Wink

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« Reply #3 on: Aug 07, 2012 04:41 pm »

When you discover who you were and when you find where the blockages that you have encounteed  in this life have come from those blockages begin to loosen their hold on you and you become more free. You can also understand current relationships with loved ones in the light of past lifes. You can also discover talents from the past. You might have met a stranger and felt an instant dislike or rapport for. This indicates behavior patterns that were developed from the past.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 11, 2013 10:39 pm »

Luther Burbank speaking to PY chapter 38 Autobiography of a Yogi.:

"My friend Henry Ford and I both believe in the ancient theory of reincarnation," Luther told me. "It sheds light on aspects of life otherwise inexplicable. Memory is not a test of truth; just because man fails to remember his past lives does not prove he never had them. Memory is blank concerning his womb-life and infancy, too; but he probably passed through them!" He chuckled.

Luther Burbank was an American botanist, horticulturist and a pioneer in agricultural science. He developed more than 800 strains and varieties of plants over his 55-year career.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 22, 2013 02:34 am »

There is true story about a small girl who claimed that her parents and family lived in another town. A doctor recomended
going to the town where she claimed her family resided. She went to her old home and said that before she died she hid
some gold inside a wall of the house. The wall was opened and the gold found.

If you have a hard time accepting reincarnation, perhaps in a future life you will have a better chance to accept it.

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« Reply #6 on: Mar 22, 2013 11:33 am »

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There is true story about a small girl who claimed that her parents and family lived in another town. A doctor recomended
going to the town where she claimed her family resided. She went to her old home and said that before she died she hid
some gold inside a wall of the house. The wall was opened and the gold found.

If you have a hard time accepting reincarnation, perhaps in a future life you will have a better chance to accept it.

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« Reply #7 on: Mar 23, 2013 04:35 am »

It may be very easy for us to learn a foreign language or we may feel very comfortable in a foreign country.
These are signs that we have been there before. How is it we express talents at a very early age? We have worked on
them before. Because of their upbringing some people have a hard time accepting reincarnation.
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 23, 2013 12:46 pm »

I want to share with you something that personally happened to me in regards to reincarnation. Sometimes we are given glimpses of the past to resolve current crisis and problems. we have shared past llives with friends and lovers we know today and throughout our lives. I remember having a vision of somebody that I loved. the question is why do we have such visions? the answer is:
to understand what we are going thru with people in this life. this is only 1 reason for remembering our past lives. I intend to touch on other reasons also.

I spent some time with this person that I cared about. I had a vision of visiting her in a past life. I saw the place very clearly.
it was as if I was looking at something as clear as waking life and it was not in a dream. I saw it with open eyes.
In the vision I was coming to a saloon. it was not the type of saloon you see in the old Western films. it was very large and all the tables were round with wooden chairs. the place was immaculate and I was coming to visit this person very late at night. she worked there and i was thinking that her parents owned the place.

you see some people carry their hang ups and addictions from 1 life to another.  when we have problems we do not know how to resolve we often fall back into old ways of dealing with them dragged over from the past.

Our visions and intuition may not make sense till later on in our life.  Because of the surroundings and after getting to know her for quite a while; I recognized the same habits from the past carrying over into this life.
it helped me understand why there were episodes of irrational behavior taking place.

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learn from them and how to recognize past lives.....
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 23, 2013 09:59 pm »

Some people say: how can I believe in reincarnation if I can't remember past lives? You my as.well ask: how can I believe
that I am here when I do not remember being born or life in the womb? Yet there is a good indication we are here. Memory does not establish existance. Some of us  remember what others do not. Some of us work on remembering. Some of us meditate and
some do not. Meditation increases our awareness; our awareness of the past, future and present. Meditation helps us realize
that time itself is one more illusion of the reality we accept in our existance. We still exist in a rather backward time in history.
It is just the beginning of the dwapara yuga. In the higher treta and satya yugas most people will be meditating and the barriers
of time will break down. We will not be limited by time.

We need not be trapped in the thoughts and realities of the masses. There were those who did not accept kings, queens and
slavery when most people did and so we do not have to accept the ignorance we witness around us. We are here to help
not to accept.

The whole Roman Empire was barbaric and there are many people following the ignorance of the masses today. It is best
to find those who are in tune with a higher consciousness and be a witness to the mass delusion we are living in the
early part of this century. We are fortunate to have a few good friends who understand.
Size never proved truth. History has shown this over and over.

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2015 05:24 pm »

In my early 20's i spent quite a bit a time with a friend who told me of her past life in Italy. She was a nurse for a living. i asked her more about it and she told me she clearly remembers sitting in the coliseums watching Christians being tortured and killed. i asked her how she felt about it and she said 'hopeless... as though there was nothing she could do about it.' Several years past and i had gone on the road. i came back and looked her up. i found she had committed suicide.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2015 11:24 pm »

Steve, maybe that's it why we don't remember
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« Reply #12 on: Jun 19, 2015 02:29 am »

I can't remember or recall anything from the past. I have a pretty good memory too.

Ever feel like the world was a tuxedo and you are a pair of brown shoes? --George Gobel

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« Reply #13 on: Jun 19, 2015 10:23 pm »

SI, I watched the video, everyone is laughing like mads but I really didn't understand the tuxedo-shoes quip.

Maybe because I'm not American...
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 29, 2015 10:33 pm »

I will say this for you Jeff because u r having difficulties with your mother over reincarnation. This is not something you prove to any one. This is something you find out and experience yourself. This is the big mistake of truth seekers. The proof comes from inner realization not outer confirmation.

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Well I'm not having difficulties, I'm actually trying to see it from her view for once. Trying to get along. I haven't changed my views, rather I would like to evolve and understand others' opinions, and maybe further evolve just as PY brought Jesus into this. BTW, your proof did come from outer sources initially, then comes to the inner. I don't think we could have imagined all the details of reincarnation on our own.

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Seeing it from her view is seeing it from a cultural stand point. Her view is the result of social conditioning. Social conditioning is so strong that most people will follow blindly the conditioning of the country and culture they come from. That is the problem in the mideast today and that is the problem here in cloneland as well.

The second part of your quote. i had an experience with reincarnation before knowing anything about reincarnation. The 'proof' as you have put it came from outer sources later. So you see it is the opposite of what you have described. i had some of these experiences with reincarnation before knowing what the term meant. Later i understood what i had experienced through other people and cultures.

We come into this life with varying degrees of spiritual experience and understanding and in different areas. Some people can remember past lives at a very young age. i did a study of this in my Masters' Thesis. It turns out that many children remember their 'real' parents from another incarnation. Some of them have even told their names and it has been discovered that these people actually lived in a previous century and had kids.

There is so many cases of past life memories that have been  corroborated through investigation that denying such evidence is foolish. What we may have differing views on is what these people, including myself, have tapped into.

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