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« on: Nov 08, 2012 01:58 pm »

Co-operation comes from friendship, friendship comes from trust, and trust comes from kind-heartedness.
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 09, 2012 12:39 am »

hello monkeysaurus  Smiley
i just know, you are one of those kind-hearted, learned individuals
thank you for sharing all that you do  Smiley
my experienced distant and maybe friend

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« Reply #2 on: Feb 04, 2014 03:30 pm »

Very few people understand that friendship is not a temporary thing. It is something people work on from life to life. Discarding friends like paper plates or cans is very superficial and leads to being alone and being lonely.
Friends that stay with each other thru thick and thin know the true meaning of support, endurance and depth in friendship. Brother Anandamoy once said that when you see some people who stay together as friends, brothers and sisters, business companions etc. This is not by coincidence but is an indication of life times of hard work on these relationships.
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 29, 2014 10:29 am »



                                                 


A friend is one that knows you as you are, knows where you have been, accepts what you have become  and still gently allows you to grow.




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« Reply #4 on: Feb 07, 2015 04:51 pm »

There are people who r mentally or spiritually sick. It takes wisdom
in the ability to recognize this. They live under the guise of spirituality yet they do not treat others in a spiritual manner. They have no idea that friendship requires reciprocity and the ability to share. But if it is not done their way then there is an unwillingness to continue a relationship. You can see this every day in people who refuse to talk with us unless we communicate the way and manner in which they r comfortable or unless we conform to their idea of a relationship. This is selfishness. If we cannot identify this in others and ourselves then we can feel as though we have done something inappropriate when in reality it is the issues that someone else may have. In this sense it is very important to understand that there r people who do not have a sufficiently developed heart to maintain a relationship when events change in our life.

They cannot even begin to understand many people around them because they do not have the capacity to reach out to others unless it is on their terms. There are obviously others who can share and want to meet people half way. I am fortunate to b in their presence here and in my life. This thread started with a statement on friendship. i would like to requote it slightly different yet still in the spirit of its meaning; Co-operation is important in friendship, 'friendship comes from trust, and trust comes from kind-heartedness..'



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« Reply #5 on: Feb 08, 2015 07:21 pm »

Steve, theoretically it's like you say, but in practice things often change.

You have been burnt by a recent friendship and apparently are not able to get over it yet.

I have been burnt by a friend who, although I gave him full trust, started to take advantage of me. This relates to $$$.

We can write or speak as much as we want. That friendship has ceased to exist to me. I feel betrayed. Also, this episode has undermined the word trust to me. In future and in next lives I'll be much less trusty in business (reads: no trust at all).
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 09, 2015 05:19 am »

Steve, theoretically it's like you say, but in practice things often change.

You have been burnt by a recent friendship and apparently are not able to get over it yet.

I have been burnt by a friend who, although I gave him full trust, started to take advantage of me. This relates to $$$.

We can write or speak as much as we want. That friendship has ceased to exist to me. I feel betrayed. Also, this episode has undermined the word trust to me. In future and in next lives I'll be much less trusty in business (reads: no trust at all).

It bristles my quills to see what some people do to others.
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 09, 2015 05:27 am »

hello monkeysaurus  Smiley
i just know, you are one of those kind-hearted, learned individuals
thank you for sharing all that you do  Smiley
my experienced distant and maybe friend

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Hello Driptasaurus I'm looking forward to a most congenial acquaintance.
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 09, 2015 09:58 pm »

Steve, theoretically it's like you say, but in practice things often change.

You have been burnt by a recent friendship and apparently are not able to get over it yet.

I have been burnt by a friend who, although I gave him full trust, started to take advantage of me. This relates to $$$.

We can write or speak as much as we want. That friendship has ceased to exist to me. I feel betrayed. Also, this episode has undermined the word trust to me. In future and in next lives I'll be much less trusty in business (reads: no trust at all).

I find it interesting that u use the phrase "apparently are not able to get over it".... and... "being burnt." The question is this; Who is being burnt? If the answer is that it is only a character playing a part; then how much r we identified with that part we played? We learn from life's lessons. I believe that Master places us just where we need to be and uses our karma to show us about ourselves. In this lite should we blame others or ourselves?

Fortunately for me i have little or no bad feelings towards others. It often takes time though to discover what people r really like. In this sense it is not a matter of 'getting over' someone but rather watching how they act as the whole scenario unfolds. It often takes patience to ascertain just what a person's true colors are. I do not make an assessment so quickly. However; in the process we also see how others around us react or handle these type of situations. It is somewhat like being exposed to different lessons and gleaning what we can from everything that unfolds.

The movie may have a break between lives but remember this; if others have created a debt and owe us something because of the way they have treated us....eventually they will have to be in our presence or similar situation to pay that debt. Then again we are in a position of reacting or not reacting to them and our assessment of them of course will be quite different which means that they will be facing the Karma they had created or if we have reacted some way we will face part of the karma that we have with that person. So u see we r always facing our own past actions. Seeing this we gain insight into how it feels to be treated the way we once treated others.

i don't know mccoy. It is a bit surealistic. I mean watching this picture show in which this guy gets burnt and another gets swindled out of some money.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 10, 2015 06:18 pm »

hello monkeysaurus  Smiley
i just know, you are one of those kind-hearted, learned individuals
thank you for sharing all that you do  Smiley
my experienced distant and maybe friend

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Hello Driptasaurus I'm looking forward to a most congenial acquaintance.

Hi Porcupine Quill- Welcome to the forum ! Might I also consider your porcupine quills for acupuncture ? Have you any practice in the field ?
Looking forward to learning more about your prickly presence.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 10, 2015 10:23 pm »

Steve, objectively, you still do not appear to have overcome the fact with the other devotee. Or maybe you overcame that but want to make things clear with the other devotee. Or you just are looking for a spiritually satisfactory closure. Your posts in the other thread suggest this and I do not say I'm right or wrong, I just say my mind construes those posts as not having really overcome the experience.

Burnt means: branded, signed. It is not necessarily negative. In this life I'll never ever trust friends or other people with money.  Hopefully in future lives as well. Is that a good or bad thing? Yoganandaji thought to be shrewd in business. That's one thing you learn after time. What I'm learmning now is to be able to be detached and maybe saving something of the ast friendship. And, really, I have sometimes evil thoughts which I'm compelled to control and that's a good exercise. Evil thoughts mean thoughts of shooting my friend.

I still cannot say I got swindled but the amount is going to be pretty substantial and things started out pretty bad. The karma went both ways of course, my friend having lost future income, me
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 10, 2015 11:38 pm »

Steve, theoretically it's like you say, but in practice things often change.

You have been burnt by a recent friendship and apparently are not able to get over it yet.

I have been burnt by a friend who, although I gave him full trust, started to take advantage of me. This relates to $$$.

We can write or speak as much as we want. That friendship has ceased to exist to me. I feel betrayed. Also, this episode has undermined the word trust to me. In future and in next lives I'll be much less trusty in business (reads: no trust at all).

Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2015 07:36 pm »

Steve, objectively, you still do not appear to have overcome the fact with the other devotee. Or maybe you overcame that but want to make things clear with the other devotee. Or you just are looking for a spiritually satisfactory closure. Your posts in the other thread suggest this and I do not say I'm right or wrong, I just say my mind construes those posts as not having really overcome the experience.

Burnt means: branded, signed. It is not necessarily negative. In this life I'll never ever trust friends or other people with money.  Hopefully in future lives as well. Is that a good or bad thing? Yoganandaji thought to be shrewd in business. That's one thing you learn after time. What I'm learmning now is to be able to be detached and maybe saving something of the ast friendship. And, really, I have sometimes evil thoughts which I'm compelled to control and that's a good exercise. Evil thoughts mean thoughts of shooting my friend.

I still cannot say I got swindled but the amount is going to be pretty substantial and things started out pretty bad. The karma went both ways of course, my friend having lost future income, me

It has taken sometime to get back to answering this. Perhaps it is because i am not sure how to respond to it. When we are still in the midst of conditions with others we do not always have the answers so we struggle with interpreting events and knowing what our attitude should be to such situations. It is just difficult for me to believe that people that are so close to us can be so cruel and i have this hope that someday they may recognize their folly as we ourselves learn and recognize that we have made mistakes in life.

Those are quite difficult thoughts you have mccoy. i (nor do i believe you can see doing this) just can't see getting any kind of revenge or retribution.... which only leads us deeper into a quagmire. It is much more beneficial to recognize other doors opening for us rather than be tied to an inexorable past that can destroy us spiritually speaking. That was then.... this is now and what signs have we for developing future options? Life is very creative in that sense. We create our destiny.  i know life is much different now and it would be difficult to go back to pristine times with those we loved when so much has happened. If we continue with them it will be a different destiny than we envisioned.

i find myself more and more grateful for the friendship and love that is given now and recognize how we as humans never quite seem to appreciate what we have while we have it.

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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2015 10:37 pm »

Steve, of course I recognize the thoughts sometimes I'm having as demonic suggestions and not thoughts of my own. I also understand why people who have some degree of mental instability can kill when wronged. Although that way they choose to yield to demonic suggestion and have to pay the karmic price.

Also, the business opportunity which arose in my area a few years ago has made me very disappointed because a few people whom I believed to be trustworthy have behaved in strange ways. That's because I said sometimes we must be shrewd and cunning, otherwise Others will take advantage of the stiuation, like in your case where your alleged friend stole your musical ideas and gave you no recognition nor part of the income for that.

Also, it is evident that you still need some time to get over with your disappointment with your friend. I'm still bothered by flurries of negative thoughts after 2 years. Mind can be Tricky. The important is to recognize it.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2015 12:05 am »

Steve, of course I recognize the thoughts sometimes I'm having as demonic suggestions and not thoughts of my own. I also understand why people who have some degree of mental instability can kill when wronged. Although that way they choose to yield to demonic suggestion and have to pay the karmic price.

Also, the business opportunity which arose in my area a few years ago has made me very disappointed because a few people whom I believed to be trustworthy have behaved in strange ways. That's because I said sometimes we must be shrewd and cunning, otherwise Others will take advantage of the stiuation, like in your case where your alleged friend stole your musical ideas and gave you no recognition nor part of the income for that.

Also, it is evident that you still need some time to get over with your disappointment with your friend. I'm still bothered by flurries of negative thoughts after 2 years. Mind can be Tricky. The important is to recognize it.

This is what comes to mind while reading your post mccoy.

If indeed you got the business opportunity that arose in your area; would it have sent u in a different direction then the direction that divine order seems to have put you? Where would your spiritual rudder have drifted you in if you had not had those people act in such strange ways. Would you for instance be here talking with me now? Would i have the privilege of spending time with you? Just some thoughts you may want to consider. What do i know? But the fact is that sometimes the questions are more important then the answers.
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