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« on: Jan 04, 2013 01:04 pm »

BB 24A Bhaktananda Spiritualizing the Creative Force Mid 1970’s

i did not take these notes down. A spiritual friend did that spent many years as Brother Bhatananda's personal cook.


The big three temptations:


1. Creative force – sex. Most powerful.

2. Alcohol – relatively easy to control.

3. Money – don’t overspend, live within your means.


God gives us temptations to help us be stronger by overcoming.


Misuse of the creative force means:


1. Agony

2. Sense bound – weak in one sense = weak in all senses

3. Weakening in body and mind. Doctors don’t know this.

4. Disease.

5. Premature old age. Poor diet and negative thinking are other causes of premature old age.


Moderation is not misuse.


To control the sexual impulse: immediately think of  a creative diversion “spiritual brain children”  being artistic, physical exercise, running exercise, etc.


What is important – just because sex consciousness comes to you doesn’t mean you have to dissipate it. You must use up the energy. The feeling is just an accumulation of energy.


Use this technique three times: deep breath up the spine to the spiritual eye, exhale, no passion.


Other points:


Exercise. Run, jog.

Diet – no meat. Uric acid makes nerves restless. People think it is energy.

Nuts – grind them.

Plenty of raw fruits and vegetables.


Spiritual Marriage  loyal – even to a non-spiritual partner. Respect, unconditional love. Happy – do not contradict partner.


Master never said marriage should be celibate. One survey by the University of Washington indicated that celibate marriages are the happiest, even among non-spiritual partners. Master never taught married celibacy because not all people can do it. But it is an ideal to work towards. There should be distant closeness in marriage.


There should be private rooms in marriage – the soul needs privacy. Master said that small apartments can cause many divorces.


More love – less sex.  When you meet first feel and think of love, not sex.

Overindulgence = boredom, hate, separation, loss of lots of energy, it causes lack of ability to love and feel peace (it takes energy for these).


Master said the sperm and ovum meeting creates an astral light – acts as a tunnel – and astral beings know by the vibration of the light if it is for them. Spiritual beings stay away if passion is involved in intercourse. Prepare for intercourse mentally.


Bhaktananda said he knew three young couples who wanted to be celibate. He was opposed. All three broke up. The creative force is too strong. Work up to less and less intercourse. One marriage – man left wife. Another marriage – wife left man. Third marriage – (notes unclear).


Master was opposed to dancing altogether. But he said “married couples would be wise to dance only with each other” because it was popular.


Real reason for marriage: spiritual reunion of souls.   
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 21, 2015 10:50 pm »

Great notes.

I subscribe this:

Misuse =  Weakening in body and mind. Doctors don’t know this.

Loss of energy due to intercourse is a concept highlighted by hinduism and even more Taoism, whereas modern medicine does not  stress this point.

But in many instances it is a known fact. Boxers for example are very careful to avoid sexual intercourse before important matches.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 23, 2015 05:09 am »

Great notes.

I subscribe this:

Misuse =  Weakening in body and mind. Doctors don’t know this.

Loss of energy due to intercourse is a concept highlighted by hinduism and even more Taoism, whereas modern medicine does not  stress this point.

But in many instances it is a known fact. Boxers for example are very careful to avoid sexual intercourse before important matches.


Many of us as spiritual seekers face this life experience with mixed feelings and difficulties arising from being spiritual beings while still having a persistent prod from bodily awareness.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 23, 2015 05:50 am »

There is a difference between sexual intercourse and Spiritualizing the Creative Force.

I am learning myself the very individualized ways of this energy. There are ways to deal with, and explore the persistent prod, and use this energy in ways I never thought possible. Even Kriya technique of moving the energy starting from the lowest chakra, seems to be dealing with this energy, although no guru or avatar plainly says so.

Celibacy and suppression is not the answer for me. And neither is external fluid release. Too much energy wasted and the older you get the worse that is for you, IMO. Simply thinking about something else, cold water, etc., is suppression. It is stated to avoid sex, no overindulging, etc., But to me it must be dealt with and experienced so that you can learn. Taoism does have some plain spoken insight. Just like Kriya, it takes practice, study, and figuring out what works for you.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 23, 2015 10:53 am »

There is a difference between sexual intercourse and Spiritualizing the Creative Force.

I am learning myself the very individualized ways of this energy. There are ways to deal with, and explore the persistent prod, and use this energy in ways I never thought possible. Even Kriya technique of moving the energy starting from the lowest chakra, seems to be dealing with this energy, although no guru or avatar plainly says so.

Celibacy and suppression is not the answer for me. And neither is external fluid release. Too much energy wasted and the older you get the worse that is for you, IMO. Simply thinking about something else, cold water, etc., is suppression. It is stated to avoid sex, no overindulging, etc., But to me it must be dealt with and experienced so that you can learn. Taoism does have some plain spoken insight. Just like Kriya, it takes practice, study, and figuring out what works for you.

Jeff; Although i realize it is somewhat difficult to lay out a formula for sexual redirection into higher channels; i appreciate your insights.
i must say that for me, in life, sexual energy has proven to be one of the most helpful ways of understanding human relationships and to express feelings and human emotions. In this sense i am yet unable to find it detrimental to spiritual evolution.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 25, 2015 11:42 pm »

Jeff

Nice to have u comment here. Hope u hold on to your thoughts - interesting subject.
I agree with much of what u said here. Just wondered if u could elaborate on that first paragraph. It may be helpful to know what taoism has to say about this subject.

In actuality Paramahansa Yogananda does have techniques for bringing the energy up the spine during sexual excitation. They are in the SRF lessons.

I understand the dilemma of your statement; "Celibacy and suppression is not the answer for me. And neither is external fluid release.Too much energy wasted and the older you get the worse that is for you". Life is full of dilemmas. I have learned to live with them and except that human condition more and more over the years. It is a manifestation of duality and the seeming contradictions of living as spirits in a material world.

Often sexual encounters or attractions bring out these issues with clarity and give understanding.

There is a difference between sexual intercourse and Spiritualizing the Creative Force.

I am learning myself the very individualized ways of this energy. There are ways to deal with, and explore the persistent prod, and use this energy in ways I never thought possible. Even Kriya technique of moving the energy starting from the lowest chakra, seems to be dealing with this energy, although no guru or avatar plainly says so.

Celibacy and suppression is not the answer for me. And neither is external fluid release. Too much energy wasted and the older you get the worse that is for you, IMO. Simply thinking about something else, cold water, etc., is suppression. It is stated to avoid sex, no overindulging, etc., But to me it must be dealt with and experienced so that you can learn. Taoism does have some plain spoken insight. Just like Kriya, it takes practice, study, and figuring out what works for you.
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