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« on: Feb 22, 2013 11:36 am »

Greetings Portal Devotees !  Smiley
What is Tantra ? ... No, really ?  Angry  Huh?  =P
Initially I wanted to research the spirituality behind sexual intercourse and so naively thought, Tantra would be something to look into. Well, now, I'm not so sure... I don't know entirely what it is and have more to read from the interview below. Not sure what will come of this but I know the portal doesn't discriminate against any one path so, if anything, here is a nice read.
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"WHAT IS TANTRA?!"
                RIDING THE WISDOM TIGER



Introduction:

From the beginning of time there have been those rare women and men
who, following their hearts great yearning, have answered the
existential question of birth and death with realization of who they
truly are - who we all are. Pranama is such a one. He invites,
cajoles, dares us to join the dance. Read his words, let them enter
your heart and smash the taboo against unreasonable happiness. The
flame of being is passed from master to disciple in the great silence
of the heart - these words are an engraved invitation.

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...There is a beautiful
Rumi poem which speaks to this from the Sufi tradition.

 "Love is reckless; not reason.  Reason seeks a profit.  Love comes on
strong, consuming herself unabashed.

Yet in the midst of suffering love proceeds like a millstone, hard
surfaced and straight forward.

Having died to self interest, she risks everything and asks for
nothing.  Love gambles away every gift God bestows.

Without cause God gave us Being; without cause give it back again.
Gambling yourself away is beyond any religion.

Religion seeks grace and favor, but those who gamble these away are
Gods favorites, for they neither put God to the test nor knock at the
                              door of gain and loss"
        (translation by Edmund Helminski)

   Tantra takes the jump into crazy wisdom by eliminating even God from
the equation, leaving only the mystery with no ultimate attempt to
define it. This is a path for those whose hearts are so wild that they
are ready to throw it all away on a hunch, for an intuition.
  Discipline, courage, hard work and intelligence are required
because that is what any quest of the heart demands.  Tantra, which
molds the power of creation and ego into skillful means cutting
through delusion, requires careful preparation. We don't expect
someone who just wants to play around now and then on a keyboard to
become a concert pianist. We don't expect someone to be able to get up
off the couch one day and run a four minute mile. Great tasks require
great effort.
   With Tantra we are taking the mind and body as cauldron, feeling,
ego, elements and world as alchemical ingredients, and imagination
informed by divine power as catalyst; and we are accomplishing the
great magical task of alchemical transformation. The base metal of
dualistic view becomes the infinitely valuable gold of pure and
luminous awareness. Tantra is a path of tremendous power. This power
is not easy to use without getting burned by it. Yet, at the same
time, it is a path of great joy.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/tib/tantra.htm
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 23, 2013 10:40 am »

Hello wonderful friend. If your partner is willing to practice it would be wonderful.
Tantra is putting God at the center of your physical and sexual desires as we try
to put him at the center of all our actvities. Imagine the power of divine
mother being seen in your female partner or divine father in the male partner.
Bring your energies up to your heart chakra from the base chakras while expressing love.

If it was not for God we could find no divine pleasure in this creation that he
created. As God's creatures we can do much to find patience and
create the beauty of ecstacy in our partner or express our love in
much more subtle ways that honor the beauty of spiritual expression of love.
Sexual and physical expression can have many levels of expression.
i have given much thought to this subject. Sexuality can sometimes
even heal us from the misuse of other people.

Our bodies speak to us sexually by giving us desire to be close to another human being
and to express love. If it were not for sexuality how would we begin to understand
being close to another human being and experience their love? Sexuality and this physical
drive eventually helps us understand that the real drive behind it all is the drive to be
close to something else; the desire to love. To be enveloped in love and
to feel ever new joy. This is what we are all seeking: the ever new joy of God.

Tantra is certainly an avenue of feeling and expressing love.
The sexual energy is close to our creative energies and often
happens simultaneously or close afterwards.

It is amazing to me how much sexuality is misunderstood and used to hurt others.Yet in the expression of love it can be quite beautiful and bring a sense of closeness
to a relationship. It is an integral part of this physical realm we live in.
It often takes much time to loose our attachment to those we have expressed
physical feelings towards so it seems to me that if we choose to express this way
it is important to know the spiritual level of our partner and how they intend to
use such a powerful expression of love.

Amma has shown us that in the highest physical sense God can be transmitted physically
in her divine hugs. God sometimes comes in the form of emotional
and physical comfort of another human being to express love.


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« Reply #2 on: Feb 24, 2013 09:32 am »

thanks steve...Smiley very interesting
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 25, 2013 09:35 pm »

thanks steve...Smiley very interesting

Tantra..literally: technique. A tehnique to bring a certain result. Does not necessarily mean a position. Goes beyond just sexuality. That is techniques to spiritualize. Tantra is like a recipe. If you do this, this and this you will get these results. The how of doing something not the why. The sexual part: a small part of the science which covers all aspects of human nature. Techniques that bring us to a higher state of consciousness. Breathing and chants; meditations with a partner. If you want to learn more about what is Tantra: The book of Secrets: Osho

White Tantric: a type of spiritual cleansing and upliftment

Red Tantric: associated with sexuality

Black Tantris: techniques to do harm to yourself or others.

Kundalini yoga; understanding the energies that flow within us that give us drive, make us feel alive. Stimulating
our sexuality and on a hiigher level awakening us to the potentials of higher consciousness and the opening up
of higher vistas of spirit. The harnessing and control of these energies and awakening of them is part of kundalini.

Kama Sutra: Pleasure in human expression. Explores all kinds of pleasure as well as physical and sexual expression. One more facet of human existance. Unlike the Bible the Indian Scriptures address all facets of human existance. War as well as peace. Sexuality and celibacy.

Hatha Yoga; recognizing these energies thru postures and physical type exercises

The hindu scriptures do not place derogatory (so far as i know), words about sex and homosexuality as Christianity has. There should be an understanding of all expressions of human existance in religion. Not intolerance which still permeates the conversations of friend and foe in our culture and it's traditional religion. Not only does the Bilble not adress the issue but actually confuses us about sexuality. As we see that in the Old Testament King Solomen who was considered wise had many wives but in the New Testament we are told to have one marriage partner. The Bilble went from polygamy to monogamy a marriage between two people. To confuse us even further we are told that Adam and Eve were the first beings on earth but that their two sons, Cain and Abel took wives and had many children. However we are never told where these wives came from since Adam and Eve had only two male children and were the first beings on earth.  We would not want to have them married to their sisters. Now that would pose a problem. These are only a couple inconsistancies. But it is not my goal to point all of them here....

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« Reply #4 on: Feb 26, 2013 07:34 pm »

i have added much to the section on Tantra. If you are interested please reread since i have made many revisions. Many times as questions are asked i find that i have a lot to learn in my responses and many times the questions bring up more questions to learn from.....

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« Reply #5 on: Feb 27, 2013 02:29 am »

tantra. sexual positions in order to feel closer to god.

sex....a souls expression of love for one another via body.

that's all. that's all it is.

summed up.

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« Reply #6 on: Feb 27, 2013 05:22 am »

tantra. sexual positions in order to feel closer to god.

sex....a souls expression of love for one another via body.

that's all. that's all it is.

summed up.

(((lovehugsom)))
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Yea well everything was ok until someone suggested the porcupine and rhino positions via body.
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 27, 2013 10:57 am »

Anywho physical expression does not have to b  a rollercoaster ride with peaks that we fall off from and take a dive  to sleep.. We can also appreciate the valleys and the hills of our experience with others as well. A gentleness and warmth returned  speaks wonders to the sensitivity of love. When passion is expressed even though reciprocated differently we can appreciate the love behind it.

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