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« on: Apr 24, 2013 08:45 pm »

The two best ways i can think of are being with a saint or God realized person because they have conversations with God and
and convey God's presence and secondly by meditating since this opens us up to God's presence.

Have u ever thought how God can b said to be a beggar? Why? Because God has everything but our love. God wants our love
and we r free to give it or take it away as we wish. God does not accept excuses. God asks if we have time for him/her. If we
say no we do not have time to meditate, to think of you, to pray to you. The saints say that God"s response is that he/she is running the universe yet has time for us.

Do u ever think: I wonder what Jesus, Buddha or Yogananda would do in situations u are faced with? Then u too r trying to
get in the mind and heart of God.

Perhaps God would yawn if he did not have us because he already knows everything.
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 27, 2013 04:53 am »

As I was saying God knows everything but we do not so perhaps he LIVES thru us.
We look forward to outcomes and experience life unfolding. The more calm we are
...the more God strains out of everything. It does not matter how many mistakes
we have made. They are temporary.

God is freedom from misery. How do we achieve this condition? By understanding
and becoming one with God. How do we do that? By meditation, realizing that
God is the giver, being detached and letting go of the fruits of action and having
unruffled patience.

It is not easy to create the routine of meditation. But we must if we are to get in
the mind and heart of God. This is how we merge into that great consciousness.
That great being. We begin to see things as God does not as our puny egos imagine
things to be.

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« Reply #2 on: Apr 27, 2013 05:43 am »

thanks steve
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 28, 2013 08:13 pm »

thanks steve

I remember your mentioning the possibility of having a temple in Danapur and that Krishna and Rama lived and were born
close to your domicile. Krishna was born in Mathura in the state of Uttar Pradesh. Is that the state you live in? I meet many
people from India here in the states. Many come from Punjab.

I have had more hope of getting in the mind and heart of God after having more understanding of the yugas or ages of humanity. In the higher golden age, most of humanity will know the divine plan they are to follow.  In the current bronze or
Dwapara yuga most of us think we are free. Perhaps we are free from despots as seen in previous generations. Yet most of humanity has a long way to go to find freedom in a spiritual sense. Liberation and spiritual freedom are terms we get from
Buddhism Hinduism and the East.

The concept of freedom and democracy have their origins here in the west and is the cause of many of our wars. My understanding is that in Europe many people laugh about Americans because of our constant fear of having freedom taken away. Freedom is great. Not the freedom to do as we wish as many  westerners believe but  rather the freedom to do as we should and God intended. This is freedom from misery.

Small pokets of civilization will always rise above their time in every age. Jesus and his disciples were far ahead of their time
in the dark era of the kali yuga that they are still even misunderstood in this age.

those of us who meditate regularly recognize the spiritual influence of India and its heritage
of spewing out saints who have thrust the world forward. Even Christ studied there in his 'lost years'.
We are always happy to hear from you Prabhat and what is happening in your life in India.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013 02:14 pm »

we have patna darbar of Baba Tajuddin recently built up by  his grace and the grace of God  and gurus.
I live in Bihar where  Buddha  got enlightment. Its name came  from  vihars  that once were here many buddhist viharas (abode).
I don't  understand yugas much though I read  yukteshwarji book. But he knows  what he is doing. He and his generals get it
done what is generally to be done on time. I am trying to have faith and  have less fear so that I can enjoy my remaing time here
happily.
I was  reading discourse of  swami chinmayanand on kaivalya upnishad.saeva maya parimohit atma. sarirumsathaya karoti sarvam.
stree ann paan adi vichitra bhoge saeva jagrit paritript mein he.
   deluded by his own delusion, the soul identifies with body and  does everything. he  try to satisfy himself with women, food, drink and different enjoyment all his waking hours.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013 08:47 pm »

I was  reading discourse of  swami chinmayanand on kaivalya upnishad.saeva maya parimohit atma. sarirumsathaya karoti sarvam.
stree ann paan adi vichitra bhoge saeva jagrit paritript mein he.
   deluded by his own delusion, the soul identifies with body and  does everything. he  try to satisfy himself with women, food, drink and different enjoyment all his waking hours.


While in the body there is always desire until we are liberated. What seems to be happening to me this life time is that is a recognition of these various enjoyments I/we seek and to see how others and myself are slaves to such identifications to the
body. The tragedy of life is that most of humanity do not have any understanding that we are actually spirits in a material world. Yet their are those who recognize it yet when we watch them carefully they are still immersed in body consciousness despite the fact they preach otherwise. So I am working on my own balance as many of us on the path are.. Slowly overcoming the body consciousness while not denying that it still exists. Master did not demand that we practice austerities. Denying and forcing spirituality causes rebellion and supression. We work with the tools of tranformation: kriya yoga. Slowly the desire nature is transformed. Rome was not conquered in a day. Yet it was defeated and we to will defeat all desire. But battering ourselves because we fall does not help.

Occasionally other people come in our lives that help us towards our goals. Love is a power that has
transforming affects on us. But forcing issues only causes resistance and resentment. We are blooming.
The petals are opening yet we cannot force them open.

It is wonderful to hear of your life in India Prabhasina.
More on this later. Thank You for telling us of your
spiritual adventures and about the country where
the great spirituality that has influenced the world
originated.

Jitendra
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2013 08:22 pm »

Maybe if we try to switch our frame of reference away from our little human body and towards the universe both outside and inside ourselves we will see it more as God does. If we have an alternate view. We see that many around us, including ourselves, see their whole reality is about their little life on earth, about what they need to do today and tomorrow,about how they can get a better house or car, about how they can pay off bills, about getting some new clothes, about getting some coffee, about, about, about. However maybe we just think wrong are heads have a hard time thinking like God. Everybody is in a mad rush to get somewhere or get something. Its like a wild chicken pecking chicken farm. Yet all the chickens are going to be fried. We are all like Kentucky Fried Chickens.

Closely related to this are the beautiful people. I am not talking about the rich in wealth as people have used the term in the past. I am talking about those who are rich with being. Their lives are filled with beautiful loving thoughts. They come and visit
us on the forum and we suddenly realize: wow I never thought of it like you do. Have you picked up some of Gods thoughts too? Thanks for sharing the way he sees it by suggesting a different view of people around me and situations.


So we simply say:God I know my thoughts are monkey thoughts compared to yours. Show me how you think and perceive. I'm going to sit still and wait for you. I'm turning off the Dead Kennedy's and the Grateful Dead for now to listen to your music. The Masters told us when we shut down our own way of looking at things we can see God's way. I am practicing this everyday now. Here I go again would you let me into how you
see it om om om.....
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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2013 10:27 am »

we have patna darbar of Baba Tajuddin recently built up by  his grace and the grace of God  and gurus.
I live in Bihar where  Buddha  got enlightment. Its name came  from  vihars  that once were here many buddhist viharas (abode).
I don't  understand yugas much though I read  yukteshwarji book. But he knows  what he is doing. He and his generals get it
done what is generally to be done on time. I am trying to have faith and  have less fear so that I can enjoy my remaing time here
happily.
I was  reading discourse of  swami chinmayanand on kaivalya upnishad.saeva maya parimohit atma. sarirumsathaya karoti sarvam.
stree ann paan adi vichitra bhoge saeva jagrit paritript mein he.
   deluded by his own delusion, the soul identifies with body and  does everything. he  try to satisfy himself with women, food, drink and different enjoyment all his waking hours.


Nomaste Prabhatsina

I see that Bihar is a northern state up near Nepal. I wonder if you see mountains where you live? Are you close to the Himalayas? Do people think they know precisely where the Buddha was enlightened? That was a long time ago Iin human terms.It was under a Bodhi tree. It seems that only the people who gave love are remembered from that long ago.

The grace of Baba? Is he in the body?

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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013 09:32 am »

we have patna darbar of Baba Tajuddin recently built up by  his grace and the grace of God  and gurus.
I live in Bihar where  Buddha  got enlightment. Its name came  from  vihars  that once were here many buddhist viharas (abode).
I don't  understand yugas much though I read  yukteshwarji book. But he knows  what he is doing. He and his generals get it
done what is generally to be done on time. I am trying to have faith and  have less fear so that I can enjoy my remaing time here
happily.
I was  reading discourse of  swami chinmayanand on kaivalya upnishad.saeva maya parimohit atma. sarirumsathaya karoti sarvam.
stree ann paan adi vichitra bhoge saeva jagrit paritript mein he.
   deluded by his own delusion, the soul identifies with body and  does everything. he  try to satisfy himself with women, food, drink and different enjoyment all his waking hours.


It gives us faith that God would bring together devotees from such a distance.
There are miraculous things that happen in our
life that increase faith and take away fear. We enjoy your presence so much!
And to think that you would have patience with our
language and culture!

Prabhatsina. Isn't it wonderful to walk in places where the Budha was. I  feel much
closer to Paramahansa Yogananda because of what happened to me at his crypt.
He is a jokestar....that I can tell you for sure. I will never ever forget that! He has made sure that I do
not take myself or my projects too seriously.

God has introduced me to so many kind people. They all
express the kindliness/ Godliness differently. Like you I have
met many saintly people and saints in this life. God must
think alot of us to bring us to these holy people and places.
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013 07:05 am »

thanks for your encouraging and loving  words.
guruji is  wonderful. if loved, contacted and followed he pushes
to the  higher stages very quickly. he is  the lovestar.
he said he will come for even a single soul panting, sweating, bleeding to
rescue him.
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013 11:20 pm »

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thanks for your encouraging and loving  words.
guruji is  wonderful. if loved, contacted and followed he pushes
to the  higher stages very quickly. he is  the lovestar.
he said he will come for even a single soul panting, sweating, bleeding to
rescue him.
prabhat

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I hope you always stay in contact. It is a constant reminder to me. We so often loose track of the spiritual life. There are so many
distractions here to get us caught up in the big movie show. It helps so much to have friends that remind us of our purpose here. The kindness of others also keeps us smiling. There are many kind people here on the Portal. God wants us to be happy.
It all depends on where we place our attention. I watch my thoughts constantly these days. They have to be treated like little children. They can be so disobedient!

It is not enough to depend on our limited resources. We must constantly ask the help of the Masters because without them we are in the circular pattern of our own thoughts. It is a merry-go-round. It is beyond those thoughts that sets us free. Who will free us of our thoughts and desires? They are endless. Our hopes are fulfilled by asking for help as we face the walls of our own consciousness. Slow by slow we understand the delusions we have embraced and are freed from them.


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