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« on: Jun 13, 2013 12:05 am »

We went to Hidden Springs in the Angeles National forest. I saw alot of lizards and dragonflies. We meditated for sometime
in the mountains by a stream. Now we are at Ammas retreat. I want to take notes from her talk and share them with you.

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« Reply #1 on: Jun 13, 2013 06:21 pm »

steve it sounds like a dream
i'm glad you and Namaste2All are having such a wonderful adventure ! what a nice way to spend the day ~
thanks for sharing ! keep us updated  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 19, 2013 06:55 am »

A little prod or nudge can come from unexpected places...
like a billboard in Venice !



Carroll Canal, off Eastern Court
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 19, 2013 06:04 pm »

the pic I took to message to my wife (once we got back to cell phone land -- the mountains also free us from all the cell phones !  )



John the Baptist giving the high sign after baptising his followers in the River Jordon.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 19, 2013 07:48 pm »

nice pics, i like the 200 degree view in this one and from the other thread as well
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 20, 2013 01:35 pm »

I really didn't think that the pictures of the trip would turn out so good!
Just wanted to tell everybody else you see all kinds of people on the
street corners in Los Angeles area. Namaste2All is talking about one we saw that
was in Indian headdress ponting his finger, talking and dancing
while on a street corner.

 Ever  since Ronald Reagon had the brilliant
 idea of cutting taxes for the rich and letting most people out of mental institutions:
You see all these people accosted by the polce force on the streets.
They are told to move on taken to jail and given tickets. It's sad
when you see the most richest state in the Union that the most wealthy
people cannot support mentally challenged people or help the homeless who
 walk the streets and try to live there in between their bouts with the police.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 25, 2013 09:01 pm »

Steve was seeing mockingbirds the first part of the trip,
but I was seeing Crow(s) nearly at every walkabout songline...   
they seem to go with me on these walkabouts / pilgrimages.
For me they are playful and fun creatures,
not any bad mojo or such...
they just symbolize hidden or sublime flows... (to me).

Really like your take on crows! Would you add it to the section on crows?

J.
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 25, 2013 09:08 pm »

Ha...
Steve is making the guy sound like he dressed up real good in Native American costume.
Well, far off at a glance that's the impression,
but then second glance, and wow...
he had a white lone ranger mask on, with a few colored feathers sticking out of the top...
a long sleeve button up shirt with some type of brown pr lol int...
and what appeared to be a woven rug (tan with blue stripe) kinda safety pin to look like a skirt.

Like he got up, and under the influence of drugs and dementia,
kinda put together the getup...

He was holding some type of rolled up papers in one hand,
and the other was pumping with index finger pointing -- waving it in the air, pointing to the sky...

We had to circle the block and stopped right next to him,
and I was afraid to look at him, lest he be encouraged to start interacting with us...
I could hear music thru the cracked window escaping some headphones he was wearing...

We quietly blessed him,
(and gave thanks that was not our excursion / experience).


lol life is full of interesting characters. I was happy that Scotty could get a glimpse into the Cali life experience. God entertains us with a sense of humor! We have something to laugh about and remember in our experiences with others.
Sometimes it is important to us to convince ourselves of our own sanity by seeing the insanity around us.

We can be just as crazy from somebody else's point of view. We just have to be careful that we don't take pride in the fact that we've gotten so far along in our journey that we can't be just as hilarious to somebody else.
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 10, 2013 10:47 pm »

Hi Scott and Steve !
I found this article very informative and thought i'd post here because both of you have turned your cell phone off recently during your visit to Amma- Unplugging from the Technological world we live in today and nourishing your Soul/Spirit. We can all benefit from reading this. Perhaps either of you can share what it was like to step away from your cell phones and Internet(?)
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Men have become the tools of their tools --Henry David Thoreau

Alive Enough? Reflecting on Our Technology with Sherry Turkle--by Krista Tippett, syndicated from onbeing.org, Jul 01, 2013 Krista Tippett, host: Sherry Turkle founded and directs the intriguingly titled MIT Initiative on Technology and Self. She made waves with her book Alone Together; it was widely reviewed as a call to "unplug" our digital gadgets. But as I've read her and listened to her speak, I hear Sherry Turkle saying something more thought-provoking: that we can lead examined lives with our technology. That each of us, in our everyday interactions, can choose between letting technology shape us and shaping it towards human purposes, even towards honoring what we hold dear. Engaging Sherry Turkle on this is full of usable ideas — from how to declare email bankruptcy to teaching our children the rewards of solitude — a core human experience more elusive for their generation. And in technology as in life, it seems, discontent can be the beginning of wisdom.
More...
http://www.dailygood.org/story/469/alive-enough-reflecting-on-our-technology-with-sherry-turkle-krista-tippett/

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« Reply #9 on: Jul 12, 2013 05:46 am »

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Scott and I have made this journey several years now. We can't see each other in the physical like we could when we lived in Michigan. He now lives in Tennessee and I in Southern California.
So we kind of turn off most of the world and put ourselves in the presence of Amma totally.
Also in the quiet of nature. We have memories that transcend time and space and will probably bring us together and has brought us together for incarnations.

When two people can't see each other for quite a long time it only seems natural not to dilute the time spent. These memories live with us like an old friend and  remind us just how life can be very good to us. thinking back on the time brings us in the presence of Amma again and all the spiritual blessings associated with her. The peace and interiorizing after affects of nature
give you a moment's pause in the mad rush of life to sift through the most important things.
and nourish the soul. That presence you carry on with you in your daily activities of service in life. They transform you so that you are able to encounter life with whole different perspective.

However getting back to technology. we could never bring this many people back together so much if it weren't for new forms of communication. But this too is just a development along the way. it won't be long before people will be using meditative intuition and telepathic communication as a norm. Then in even higher ages we will be able to communicate thru the satellite of our heart chakra.

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« Reply #10 on: Jul 14, 2013 06:05 pm »

Namaste2All and I have made this journey several years now. We can't see each other in the physical like we could when we lived in Michigan. He now lives in Tennessee and I in Southern California.
So we kind of turn off most of the world and put ourselves in the presence of Amma totally.
Also in the quiet of nature. We have memories that transcend time and space and will probably bring us together and has brought us together for incarnations.

It is interesting to observe that this year, that while Steve and I had some very engaging conversations and sharing, and even moments of just being silly...
it was very interesting for me to observe how much we just settled into the silence, and did not speak much at all, but just some chosen and measured words.

The other neat thing was that during retreat, while we shared a room, and we kinda liked the idea of being near each other or such... because we are friends ya know...
well, I cannot recall ending up physically near Steve only a couple of times during Ammas talks and such...  we would kinda end up near each other for a while in the cafeteria, or in the hall, or such... but it did not matter much either way...  it seems we were both very engaged in 'diving deep' and 'letting go' of all that outward world...  and we really kinda experienced being 'in the zone' at the same time.   So when we get 'in the zone', we are on the same subtle frequency... so what's it matter where we are physically, or we are saying with our mouths... it's a good groove to experience...

There were some very nice moments of complete synchronicity...

And we both kinda just remained very patient with each others human moments...  I would say it was as we say, 'worth the wait'.   Steve and I have been very fortunate to have known each other for decades as yogi devotees...  it is just a simple and obvious observation, that we have traveled many lifetimes as yogi devotees together (not just as human father, mother, friend, beloved roles)...  it simply is apparent... and we needn't have some clairvoyant tell us about some specifics of these past lives or even have our own visions of those past lives... it is just a simple, gentle, observation of truth...   it is a treasure, that God made it true that we do not come alone, but in flocks... that God made it true, that it takes many petals to make a blossom...

And we are petals of the divine blossom... 

Cheers,
------- Namaste2All
   Cheesy  'Can either of you share what its like to step away from the cell phone and the internet?' ~ Eric
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 15, 2013 04:47 am »

Namaste2All ,
i really appreciate how you've taken the time to break things into segments and translate your perspective to us. thank you so much.
your writing often feels poetic and i feel a sense of peace near the end of it.
thank you steve as well for responding directly to my question and sharing your wisdom

cheers fella's...
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 18, 2013 03:25 am »

Namaste2All ,
i really appreciate how you've taken the time to break things into segments and translate your perspective to us. thank you so much.
your writing often feels poetic and i feel a sense of peace near the end of it.
thank you steve as well for responding directly to my question and sharing your wisdom

cheers fella's...

you really never can express what a saint can give you when you're receptive-a piece of them a peace of their divinity.
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 18, 2013 03:46 am »

Hi Namaste2All and Steve !
I found this article very informative and thought i'd post here because both of you have turned your cell phone off recently during your visit to Amma- Unplugging from the Technological world we live in today and nourishing your Soul/Spirit. We can all benefit from reading this. Perhaps either of you can share what it was like to step away from your cell phones and Internet(?)
Thanks,  here is what I gathered out of the articles...

Phantom Ring -- the cell phone has become like a phantom limb (when it's not with us).   Accurate analysis in the article...

Memory Consolidation -- how we need some stillness for the human brain to get stuff from short-term to long-term memory...  when we are so flooded with over-info, tv, smartphone, internet, then Memory Consolidation is not effective, etc.  -- it's about attention being weakened...  it's in long-term memory that connections are made between all the experiences, i.e. - the creative and inspired human discovery realm.

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PARADOX
The double-edged sword of our communication age -- another paradox of this modern world.   
-- (why does one spoon of medicine cure, yet the whole bottle kills?)
-- (wind the guitar strings too tight and they break;  wind them too loose it will not make a sound)
-- (too little technology engagement and we loose opportunity to expand our sharing and gain insight via books, etc.;  too much and we short-circuit, and can waste time and energy)

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BALANCE ?
I really struggle in my life with taking the best of this modern world,
yet not letting it consume me.
I feel I get consumed easily into the media (TV and internet), but it's a game of balance.

KEEPING IN TOUCH ?
I do not watch any TV news shows, i find the media makes a story out of anything.
I find that I can browse Google News headlines once a week, and keep up very easily with what is consuming the mass consciousness of current world events.  I click down into the Science section and read those headlines, and even open and browse some of those articles.   I really nearly skip over the business, sports, and entertainment sections, as well as the technology section - because it's just about business of gadgets.   SRF Brother Anandamoy would get the LA Times once a week and just read the headlines; he stated this was enough to guage where the mass consciousness was at, etc.

MY SMARTPHONE
I work in a very specialized Information Technology job, but until 18 months ago only had a cell phone (with no camera) - it was 5 years old by the time I accepted a Blackberry from the company.   I avoided the smartphone because I noticed how it was changing the way folks live and interact.   But professionally the time arose, when I could no longer avoid getting smartphone, or else I would need to change my career.  I get paid to take care of these big enterprise databases -- and that means keeping them going for hospitals 24/7/365.  So I've noticed that I have to force myself to take a smartphone vacation -- not look at the phone, and to trust I'll get a phone call from the Monitoring and Operations folks if there is something that is critical.   Yet, I notice, I get in the habit of keeping the phone nearby, so I don't miss that call.  And if I'm mowing the lawn, I will not hear the phone, so I try and check that I've not missed calls.   It's a paradox.  This is a tool of my service, and we all need to suck it up and be of service to each other.     

ACTIVELY LISTENING ?   BEING FULLY ENGAGED AND "IN THE PRESENT MOMENT" ?
I mean, honestly when I'm in a conversation with another person or a few folks, it is a task at times to be 'completely present' and 'actively engaged' in listening, etc.    Seems we all  challenged by this to a degree -- our human mind is hearing threads of discussion, and it is trying to figure out how to communicate ("oh yes, I hear you, I know what you are talking about", or "what are you talking about, I don't understand, or not heard of that", or "I disagree", or "that makes me think of something interesting").

So then we add all these (smartphone) folks interacting with our lunchtime crew,
and soon we can have an even more dynamic mode of distraction and engagements ?


TURNING OFF THE WORLD (AND DIVING DEEP) ?

So when we go to a retreat, or a group meditation --
are we able to leave the phone in the car ?
to turn it off -- not just silence it, and then look at it periodically ?
(because that consciousness and attention, can bring the world vibration into the group).

I choose to leave my phone in the car, and/or sometimes turn it off and take it with me (for any group emergency - we are responsible to each other and the public visitors when we open the doors).  But the key is that I must dump ALL attention from that smartphone, and what it represents -- both the good and the bad are left behind.   When I go into my dedicated once-a-week long 3 to 5 hour meditation, I tell myself that the world can end, or I can get a call or such, and damn any consequences, the phone and the world is being left behind.   Those who need to know - my wife, or even my co-worker, know where I am that day of the week -- they can send the police or come get me for some dire need.   Seriously, we have to tell the mind to shut the heck up, and tell it these things !   (Don't we ? !)  Show the mind we mean business, and don't test me, because you know my resolve !  (and the mind actually learns that it is beneficial, and that it is not destroyed, but rather made more efficient tool -- so it actually learns to enjoy the process ). 

And it can be a struggle some weeks, and it becomes very apparent that we cannot hide from ourselves when sitting in meditation practice for 5 hours !   It is a matter of tuning out restless thoughts and centering to the spiritual horizon, again and again... however much work it might be...   But this long meditation, it reveals what ocean of thought our consciousness has been bathing, and where we are at ? !      And even if the thoughts are few, there may be chore of replacing negative thoughts (weeds) with positive thoughts (flowers), then moving on to let go of all and any thoughts... to just let them drift thru, but not give them any real attention or energy... just to dive deeper and deeper into the vibrant stillness within...  to the spiritual horizon.

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Well, not sure I've said much... mostly just trying to 'keep company' with some 'good souls'...
Cheers,
----- Namaste2All
 

Really appreciate you and your insights. The last part about turning off the world and diving deep: sometimes you just have to talk to the mind and tell it to quiet down. the mind rambles on in endless commentary. its remarkable how much importance we place on our thoughts.

it's all kind of unconscious until you start trying to meditate or calm the thoughts down. Thats when people make the wrongful conclusion that they're unable to meditate. It is only because they have let their emotions and thoughts take them over totally and relinquished their souls
to an endless procession of thoughts and  emotions. Our emotions and thoughts. How can we ever see things clearly in this subjective state? We are fortunate to have the meditation techniques of the Masters to help us quiet the mind. Friends that support this practice are like having silver. Friends  that practice with us are like having gold.

Jitendra
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