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« on: Dec 29, 2013 01:27 pm »

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How do we know we are in love? How do we find love? Is love between humans only temporary? How many of you have experienced love?
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 30, 2013 07:39 am »

i believe that God is showing us love thru the cultivation of our friendships here on this forum.

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 31, 2013 03:26 am »

And now to sound the horn of contradiction...
Love is something we Know. Intuitively we are aware of Love and Recognize Love as One and as Many. Strangely Love is hard to describe. And Yet I am reminded of an excerpt where this Love is defined and poetically described from the mouths of children as matter of fact- And as a viewer you can't help but Feel their Words and See them in your Minds eye as True.
Love is Enduring yet our Ability to Express Love is Wavering. 
Or Maybe My IDEA of Love is Completely off Base. Many Questions that I find Difficult to answer. I appreciate your view of Love and the Level of love you're describing from your experience.

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 31, 2013 05:14 am »

And now to sound the horn of contradiction...
Love is something we Know. Intuitively we are aware of Love and Recognize Love as One and as Many. Strangely Love is hard to describe. And Yet I am reminded of an excerpt where this Love is defined and poetically described from the mouths of children as matter of fact- And as a viewer you can't help but Feel their Words and See them in your Minds eye as True.
Love is Enduring yet our Ability to Express Love is Wavering. 
Or Maybe My IDEA of Love is Completely off Base. Many Questions that I find Difficult to answer. I appreciate your view of Love and the Level of love you're describing from your experience.

Thank you. G2g because of Work.

No contradiction my friend just your unique view on things. Who wouldn't find it difficult to answer save those who are aware of it. Isn't Love  what we all are yet how to perceive it and express it? It comes in glimpses and at various times in our lives. When we keep our interest and desire for it.  It returns as a tease from God. As if to say: "Look at the big prize ahead. What i give I take away." Perhaps it is because we reach for the dangling toys along the way. But deep down we all crave for that opening of the heart. Once tasted the nector is sought after for life.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 31, 2013 01:14 pm »

And now to sound the horn of contradiction...
Love is something we Know. Intuitively we are aware of Love and Recognize Love on a Different Level. Strangely that Level is hard to describe. And Yet I am reminded of an excerpt where this Love is defined and poetically described from the mouths of children as matter of fact- And as a viewer you can't help but Feel their Words and See them in your Minds eye as True.
Love is Enduring yet our Ability to Express Love is Wavering. 
Some people have a great capacity to love. You are drawn to them because of their ability to express love. i have friends like this. i am drawn to them because of their ability to show and express love. Sometimes behind the simple childlike expressions of others we feel their need and ability to love. i have met someone that actually opened my heart chakra. What an experience. Probably you have stood in the presence of someone that had a strong magnetic pull on you. Where does this come from?

Some of us have more ability to express and give love. What makes us confident about our ability to give and receive love? We all have the capacity to love. Yet some of us are more in contact with love. Some of can give it and receive it. Others find it much more difficult.

When can we be confident about our ability to give and receive love?
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 01, 2014 05:20 am »

It seems to me that there are different depths and degrees of love. I have felt love towards various people in my life. Although it quite often passes I still believe there was an element of truth to those feelings and that I was shown something very beautiful about life. I also have experienced the love of God. That love that some of us may have when our heart chakra starts expanding. But this too can pass until you are in one of the permanent states of love associated with Masters and Saints.

i think many of us on the spiritual path have an incredible longing for love and that is why we are here. We have found that superficial forms of love are no longer satisfying for us. We are going for the One.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 02, 2014 09:22 pm »

Sometimes we think of  true love verses untrue love but it might be better to think of the degree of love involved. These are only words to describe something rather intangible. i would not say that someone has no love because they do not express it and therefore the love they professed is untrue. Rather i would say that their capacity to give love is shallow when placed under the scrutiny of worldly challenges. There are many degrees of love and many kinds of love we can express.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 03, 2014 08:55 pm »

There are many aspects of love. Yet I really can't see it as love is off or on. I suppose you might say that I never forget about those I have loved. So I never turned the light off. They might have. So I understand the quote by Master "Human friends never leave us if we don't want them to" This was taken out of context so I am not sure what he said before it or after it or where it came from. But we must also remember that we are not the only ones having a choice in the matter. If someone does not want to have anything to do with us there is not much we can do but pray.

I believe that many of us often forget that life is not a Black/White situation~all or nothing. In the same way love has many levels. Some shallow... some deep and lasting. I have walked up the staircase with others who have loved me and I have found their love was not as they proclaimed. Yet I can still look up and see the potential involved and take a few steps back down, if need be, in our aspirations to express love together. Yet knowledge is rarely, if ever, absolute. We find that we merely develop larger paradigms as we expand our awareness. These breakthroughs in understanding include the knowledge of our own and others. Love only expands. It rarely contracts. We are often forced to expand our understanding through our relationships with others.

Love does appear to be something that happens. Yet music is also. Yet vary few of us can play music and make it happen without practice. In the same way we have to practice the attributes of love to have them spontaneously manifest. We do this by having examples such as Masters and practicing the techniques and qualities they have given us and that they have been examples for. Jesus said "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends." What an example to follow! No doubt there are those who have taken us as high as they could on that staircase of love. They have showed us much and they too might have stepped back with us but still saw our potential ahead.

It seems to me that one of the qualities of love is reaching out to others. This is something i have been practicing. We may not always experience love but we can always practice being loving in our relationships with everything and everybody.  Some people you reach your hands out to - they only cut them off. This is the case that Jesus faced. But every act of love is not lost forever. There are some things we never loose permanently. Our spiritual practice is never lost. It is true though that there is a time for everything including love. Yet for every beautiful thing in life there is the thorny side as well. This doesn't stop me. It only makes me aware of the challenges and the limitations we face in ourselves and others as well as learning about the most precious quality we can manifest and express: Love.

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« Reply #8 on: Jan 04, 2014 04:16 am »

Many of us on the spiritual path grew up different and with quite different experiences than those around us since we have been so close to that other realm some of us call home.  It might have taken a while to really get accustomed to this place again. It will never feel completely comfortable for most of us. As an example I was even a celibate in my 20's. Perhaps it has something to do with past life episodes. Later in life we just look for balance and appreciate the physical expression of love also on our way to its expression in higher forms which others here and myself also have experienced. i appreciate what God gives and takes away. This is something i have been working on.

There must be an element of astral remembrance associated with love. I think it also comes from past life association. I have met many people who have past life recollections and Deja Vu experiences when love 'strikes us'. The intensity of such encounters opens us to vistas we only can imagine till they actually occur. I have been changed immensely by encounters with love both by spiritual experiences and experiences with other human beings. There is nothing more wonderful to talk about or remember than love. We bring that vibration back to us. Besides it is what we really are.

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« Reply #9 on: Jan 06, 2014 05:29 am »

When you open up completely and empty out love just pours in.  i have felt it rite in the heart chakra. There's nothin'like it and now i want it like nothin'else. If i seem like the tin man it is only because i went to oz also but i did find it, even though it wasn't in the land of oz. Divine Mother doesn't leave you empty handed. She is aware of all our efforts and helps us get beyond them. i just have to keep with the program.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 10, 2014 05:08 pm »

Love is a noun associated with words that require action. Love is also a verb because it requires action both internally in thought and
meditation and externally in action and service.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 25, 2014 04:28 am »

I wrote this today, not in response to this thread, but I thought it fit here. The ideas aren't new or original, but here it is.

"Love is a verb, not a noun. Love is not trying to catch others, as if to frame them and hang them on the wall. Love never comes to a full stop, and it is not a one time act. It is an appreciation of a person, moment to moment. It is a stream of mutually shared moments. Love brings us into the moment and quiets our minds. It gets us out of our heads. Love is not about possessing someone, but about sharing moments together and making the most out of them. Love is not about impressing the other person with how perfect you are, but about allowing them to see your vulnerable and human side. Love reminds us that life is truly a sacred thing, and not merely a weary struggle for survival."

I wrote this mainly as a message for my dad who, after the divorces, is hoping to find love again.
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« Reply #12 on: Mar 30, 2014 01:18 am »

I wrote this today, not in response to this thread, but I thought it fit here. The ideas aren't new or original, but here it is.

"Love is a verb, not a noun. Love is not trying to catch others, as if to frame them and hang them on the wall. Love never comes to a full stop, and it is not a one time act. It is an appreciation of a person, moment to moment. It is a stream of mutually shared moments. Love brings us into the moment and quiets our minds. It gets us out of our heads. Love is not about possessing someone, but about sharing moments together and making the most out of them. Love is not about impressing the other person with how perfect you are, but about allowing them to see your vulnerable and human side. Love reminds us that life is truly a sacred thing, and not merely a weary struggle for survival."

I wrote this mainly as a message for my dad who, after the divorces, is hoping to find love again.

Love, by its very nature, is unworldly, and it is for this reason rather than its rarity that it is not only apolitical but antipolitical, perhaps the most powerful of all antipolitical human forces.

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"With Maharaji there was nobody there; there was just love. I used to see him turn into a mountain, like Shiva, the pure absolute, but then I would feel this intense love. He is unconditional love, but it’s impersonal. It wasn’t him loving me; it was him being love. I turned it into something interpersonal, but it wasn’t." - Ram Dass
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 06, 2014 09:51 pm »

A few years ago, someone very close to me was hurt by two people I knew and loved.  It was a very difficult time, to experience such betrayal of friendship, to be there to help the one I was still close to.

It was a turning point for me, because I was flooded with every such strong emotions for a month.  Anger, sadness, betrayal mostly.  I had made a decision prior to this painful event to make it a life goal to "be able to love everyone".  I knew the hardest ones to love would for me would be people who were violent towards others and people who abuse positions of power and commit different types of abuse to people on a mass scale. 

This time tested my ability to still love those who hurt someone close to me, who once called me their "best friend".

I think I have been slowly learning in this life where it is healthy to put my earthly love and where it is best to "love from afar", afterall, Love knows no bounds of Time or Space.  It is the essence of who and what we all are, the highest point of Spiritual beginnings and where we are all gradually awakening as individuals and as a species to be again.

Loss of love from another I was very close to and shared much of life with has always been hard for me.  I try achieve the same sense of Deep Love from afar, from gratitude, from remembering all of the good energy and lessons I learned. 

The loss of love from one who was like an antennae to God, to Divine Love, when we said "I love you" to each other and discussed deeper love of all, the loss of that person, that antennae or "frequency" to enter the Divine Love creates a strange illusion, that my own ability to connect to the Greater Love has become blocked.  I have also experienced this from a loss of a Guru (who was put in my life to help me by higher forces then he fully was, I would not call him a "true guru" but he helped me open doors), the loss of a religion which I worked for for 100 hours a week and was my full life, the loss of connection to a girl in high school who I connected with like no one else I had ever met due to tragic events.

I know Love is greater than all of these Human experiences of the loss of some "form" of love, even the ones which were focused on helping me to reach for the highest form of Love.

This is only my 2nd post.  I apologize for it being a bit unfocused.  I am exploring my own thoughts on Love as I write this.  Love has always been one of my favorite words and things to think about or meditate on or especially to express to others.  I've gone through periods of my life where I was so surrounded by love from so many sources everyday, it is overwhelmingly beautiful.  Perhaps, due to a lack of love from my father (who is now passed away), it's always been difficult for me to hold onto material forms of love, or I've always desired more love from people I'm close to than they are willing, or presently capable of giving.  I always open my heart fully to those I am close to.  I don't feel I have any reason to hold back from giving another I love all I have to give.  Overtime, I think I have been learning to only give as much as others receive, or perhaps just a bit more than they give me to see.

These great Gurus, like Neem Karoli Baba (who I love!) never seemed to need many or in many cases any words to express such powerful Love to their devotees and visitors. 

To me, right now, Love feels like an acceptance of who a soul is in this incarnation, right now.  Love feels like acceptance of everything as it is, as Life that we are all a part of, connected to.

I know I will continue to struggle with my ego's concept of what "right and wrong" love is.  What kind of love "I need", etc.  It makes me want to cry, because when I have others in my life who love me mutually I am so happy, though I have hardly ever known this state really.  I've only "been in love" with people who hurt me, said or did abusive things to me in the relationship.  This is something I want to change.  To seek others who would love me the way I love them.

Most of all, I want to feel free to focus on Divine Love of ALL.  I don't want these silly ego based concept to block my connection to that, and to ALL through that.

Neem Karoli Baba said that we must feed people, we must serve people to be closer to the Divine, which makes sense to me because I think we are All One truly, living in a beautiful state of individual expression on journey to remember this as we share our unique gifts with each other in this World, in this incarnation as all separate, infinite expressions of All.  This is how I intuitively see/feel Love when I let go, which the sacred space of this forum seems to have inspired me to do.

I want to focus on creating good things for this world and Loving/Giving to others, not on who or what part of this world is not being "fair" with me.  I know all things happen under a Divine Law we are all a part of, and everything happens for a reason.

Thank you for creating this sacred space on this website where I can write my thoughts.  Thank you for reading.

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Miracle of Love is a book which includes many stories from different people collected by Ram Dass about his guru Neem Karoli Baba.  It's a very special book to me and has been very helpful the past year during hard times.  I recommend it to anyone.
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