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« Reply #45 on: Dec 23, 2014 06:06 am »

Art; We eventually realize it is not worth thinking about. The mind is very sick in this way. It does not want to let go of the thoughts. This is where the sickness arrises in ourselves and not just those who have treated us sadly.

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« Reply #46 on: Dec 23, 2014 10:08 pm »

Art; We eventually realize it is not worth thinking about. The mind is very sick in this way. It does not want to let go of the thoughts. This is where the sickness arrises in ourselves and not just those who have treated us sadly.
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+111 on that. The mind tends to be sick, almost loving that.
Even when we are perfectly conscious that we do not belong to those alien thoughts, the mind keeps revolving and revolving around them.
Mental torture. I often wondered how come we can be so enslaved to mental moods and mental loops.

I personally hate it, I must be the master of my mind, not the slave. Nevertheless, I'm not Always able to get rid of them.
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« Reply #47 on: Dec 24, 2014 03:16 am »

Art; We eventually realize it is not worth thinking about. The mind is very sick in this way. It does not want to let go of the thoughts. This is where the sickness arrises in ourselves and not just those who have treated us sadly.
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+111 on that. The mind tends to be sick, almost loving that.
Even when we are perfectly conscious that we do not belong to those alien thoughts, the mind keeps revolving and revolving around them.
Mental torture. I often wondered how come we can be so enslaved to mental moods and mental loops.

I personally hate it, I must be the master of my mind, not the slave. Nevertheless, I'm not Always able to get rid of them.

Maybe the human race will find something else someday. For now we only have time and new events which naturally crowd out old thought patterns with new ones. As far as anything beyond those natural means ; the only thing we know is meditation and affirmations. i suppose you could add prayer to the list and ofcourse the help of other influences with not so many morbid thoughts.  Smiley

The only real freedom from thoughts is in that space that is experienced in meditation when the mind loosens it's endless moods and mental loops as you described so well.
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« Reply #48 on: Dec 24, 2014 01:16 pm »

When the rite thoughts persist the sub conscious mind is influenced. The dreams become transformed and the mind has a continous loop that hum's divine thoughts. Like a koan those thoughts break open the shell that reveals pearls of wisdom and awakening love.
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« Reply #49 on: Dec 25, 2014 11:52 am »

That celestial loop has been eluding me. I know it because I have experienced but in too short stretches of time.

That's the bait I think we are running after. A state we know ctually exists but we are not capable to govern yet.

It's a most frustrating situation but by now I learnt to cope with that, may distracting the mind by excessive mental workload.
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« Reply #50 on: Dec 26, 2014 02:06 am »

When the rite thoughts persist the sub conscious mind is influenced. The dreams become transformed and the mind has a continous loop that hum's divine thoughts. Like a koan those thoughts break open the shell that reveals pearls of wisdom and awakening love.

That celestial loop has been eluding me. I know it because I have experienced but in too short stretches of time.

That's the bait I think we are running after. A state we know actually exists but we are not capable to govern yet. It's a most frustrating situation but by now I learnt to cope with that, may distracting the mind by excessive mental workload.

It eludes most of us spiritual seekers. That is why we carry que cards where ever we go in the form of environment, practice and friends. Suddenly sometimes it becomes spontaneous and opens us up to higher realities. Love is not something we can control. The more we try to control love the more difficulties we have. The desire to cultivate it gives us more and more glimpses of it and our false notions are revealed as well.  Love is often something very different then we imagined. It is important to be open to that idea.
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« Reply #51 on: Dec 26, 2014 09:03 am »

+111 on that. The mind tends to be sick, almost loving that.
Even when we are perfectly conscious that we do not belong to those alien thoughts, the mind keeps revolving and revolving around them.
Mental torture. I often wondered how come we can be so enslaved to mental moods and mental loops.

I personally hate it, I must be the master of my mind, not the slave. Nevertheless, I'm not Always able to get rid of them.

When the rite thoughts persist the sub conscious mind is influenced. The dreams become transformed and the mind has a continous loop that hum's divine thoughts. Like a koan those thoughts break open the shell that reveals pearls of wisdom and awakening love.

What you're both discussing reminds me of something I've read in somewhat recent times coined, "neuro pathways."
As I understand it... Say we learn to ride a bike. We are creating a pathway in our brain. The more we practice the more we enforce this pathway. If we stop riding and come back to it years later, we instinctively remember how to ride this bike. It's because the pathway is still there... It has been a while since I've touched up on this subject... So my understanding may need a more experienced persons clarification... But I eventually understood it as not only do neuropathways form by physical stimuli but emotional as well. Meaning, if we behave in a certain manner because of how such and such has made us feel... Then we create the pathway in our brains. Once this pathway is created, it's easy for us to revisit it... And the more we revisit it,
the more we reinforce this path...

I think I've read you can't undo these pathways.. But what you can do is override them with new ones... You can reconstruct your pathways.. Reinforce them to a more positive outcome using a little creativity, through intention practice and repetition

Something like that... Anyways, for a better understanding... Please read between these links I've found to share with you
http://www.dailygood.org/view.php?sid=221

http://www.neuralpathwayrestructuring.com/home.html
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« Reply #52 on: Dec 26, 2014 07:29 pm »

Neuralpathway restructuring sounds good, I wonder what's the degree of success with that therapy and in which specific cases
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« Reply #53 on: Dec 27, 2014 05:26 am »

Many or most people simply disappear when challenges in relationships arise. This I can accept out of most people who have no real conception of spiritual development but out of people who are openly professing a spiritual path?
It becomes a contradiction in terms.

Well... over the years Steve, I've come the conclusion that most who "profess" to be on a Spiritual path, are usually the most likely to abandon it or become a hypocrite at some point, and those who talk about it less (unless it comes up in conversation), tend to be more reliable and stable in their way.

No judgement about this.  I definitely feel like I've been both people, at different times in this life alone.

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« Reply #54 on: Dec 27, 2014 05:42 am »

That celestial loop has been eluding me. I know it because I have experienced but in too short stretches of time.

That's the bait I think we are running after. A state we know ctually exists but we are not capable to govern yet.

It's a most frustrating situation but by now I learnt to cope with that, may distracting the mind by excessive mental workload.

Mccoy, I think this is perfectly OK, and as Ram Dass would say, just let the "unhealthy" thought loops happen, don't judge them.  Even if you lose your temper sometime, or give in to some other "mental or emotional weakness" or bad habit, the first thing is to not judge yourself, and accept it all as perfect, necessary and everything happens for a reason.

My friend Brock (who may be still on here?) told me that Ramana Maharshi implies or says that to have a body at all implies some suffering and thus karma.  To be free of suffering and karma to "clear up" one would no longer even be incarnated, maybe.

Someone else told me that he believes we are on this Earth to learn.  This is a school for souls, and once we graduate... we may move onto another plane of existence, or perhaps another part of the Universe or a whole different reality...

The thing is, this Human experience with it's rollercoaster ride ups and downs is unique, none of our animal or even early Human ancestors knew of the the challenges we experience in this day and age, not exactly as we experience them.  Though Life, Death, Love and Admiration of God's Creation, Gratitude for Experience and Loved Ones are all gifts.  We are here to experience, and learn, maybe...

Here's a great quote from the Houston (my hometown) comedian Bill Hicks on "life as a ride":
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« Reply #55 on: Dec 27, 2014 06:19 am »

What you're both discussing reminds me of something I've read in somewhat recent times coined, "neuro pathways."
As I understand it... Say we learn to ride a bike. We are creating a pathway in our brain. The more we practice the more we enforce this pathway. If we stop riding and come back to it years later, we instinctively remember how to ride this bike. It's because the pathway is still there... It has been a while since I've touched up on this subject... So my understanding may need a more experienced persons clarification... But I eventually understood it as not only do neuropathways form by physical stimuli but emotional as well. Meaning, if we behave in a certain manner because of how such and such has made us feel... Then we create the pathway in our brains. Once this pathway is created, it's easy for us to revisit it... And the more we revisit it,
the more we reinforce this path...

I think I've read you can't undo these pathways.. But what you can do is override them with new ones... You can reconstruct your pathways.. Reinforce them to a more positive outcome using a little creativity, through intention practice and repetition

Perhaps we cannot "undo" our mental pathways... but I do think we can create new pathways and feed our ENERGY into pathways which better serve us and others.

Everything that happens to us and everything we do has an effect on our mind, and how we respond to it, is up to us... but sometimes it is very hard to let go of things, especially the loss of someone we loved greatly from our lives, whether a friend, lover or family member...

I've heard that neuroscience has actually shown that when we are in a deep or long relationship and that person leaves or dies, it does actually look like a part of our brain stops working fully... as if it had a space in it's pathways for that person, which can no long function the same without them....

In this case, I do not think we are DOOMED to never using this part of our heart, mind or brain again!  I think, over time, we can re-purpose this space for new people, groups, ideas, and creations!  How many great works of art or books or music have been fueled by the loss or a great longing for someone out of reach for various reasons?

We have just left the Winter Solstice... the lowest energetic (sunlight) time of the year... now is the time for all of us to have the chance to LET GO of old neural pathways and energies which do not serve us, and to OPEN our hearts, minds and spirits into the possibilities that the NEW YEAR will bring!

Personally, I believe our suffering is ultimately a gift... we are on Earth to learn lessons, and to grow and to help and inspire others to do the same... so we as a species can continue to awaken in positive LOVING direction, before it's too late...

Any loss we feel or mistake we made or suffering we have experienced has some lesson to teach us, I believe.  And the greatest "silver lining" of all when we suffer, according to Ram Dass and Neem Karoli Baba is that "Suffering brings us closer to God".

Like a psychedelic or deep meditation experience... hopefully we are able to take away something valuable from our visit nearer to God... and bring it back to our regular, daily existence on Earth..

Thank you all for making this website and thread so full of honest perspectives, for opening up and sharing your reality.

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« Reply #56 on: Dec 30, 2014 01:42 pm »

New Neuro pathways: It sounds like a fancy way of saying habits. The Masters have told us that habits are a way for us to accomplish tasks easily. The challenge occurs when we realize that certain habits do not work well in all situations. Suddenly we are confronted with people, places or situations that we cannot place in our habits which we use to deal with them.

At that point we recognize that our habits are correct accept when facing the new situation that arrises. So we have to ad modifications. If enough modifications to certain habits are needed we may have to re write our habit and begin a new one. We are creatures of habit. But the spiritual journey constantly demands that we change our habits.... that we change ourselves.
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« Reply #57 on: Dec 31, 2014 10:39 am »

Your take on habits Steve reminds me of this Bruce Lee quote about water:

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« Reply #58 on: Dec 31, 2014 02:12 pm »

Pretty good control from the dude smoking the cigarette, unflinching when the chaku hit the target.
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« Reply #59 on: Dec 31, 2014 06:19 pm »

EPIC!=D
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