Dreams; a strong influence on some cultures

[Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us?]

I at first I put this as a post under Eric’s ‘Dream’s Journals’ but then deleted it and have decided to put it here. It will take some patience and at first may seem difficult to understand what I’m attempting to convey. But for those interested it may eventually make sense. Although, I will admit myself that the human mind alone cannot make sense of much of what we experience in this life. I will start with this link because this man has an interesting view of most ( but obviously not all ) our dreams. Reality that we usually experience is like looking through a telescope at the landscape. Dreams are like turning the telescope/binoculars around and looking at a different perspective; the big picture.

[Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us?]

Spirit often is God’s friendship talking to us through others. And so I am attempting to learn the language, since Eric (language of dreams) and mccoy ( language of science and astronomy) are the main support of our site…. Thanks

[Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us?]

To Eric and those taking an interest in dreams….

Sufi Muslims incorporate a type of dream incubation in their worship or practice lucid dreaming in order to reach higher consciousness. Ibn Arabi, a 12th century Sufi philosopher, described the "great benefits" in training oneself to experience lucid dreams.

Sufism and Dreams
Posted by CHISHTI on FEBRUARY 15, 2018
A gypsy came to a Sufi master as he often received a small amount in charity from him. One day the gypsy told him about his dream, about which the master was very astonished. At the same time the son of an important official came to visit the Sufi, because the parents of the boy wanted the Sufi to give the boy regularly some pocket-money. He asked the young man if he wanted to exchange his pocket-money for the dream of the gypsy. The boy accepted the offer but was not happy with it. A little later he found out what the gypsy had dreamed. The gypsy had dreamed that he would become the Grandvizier and as the boy had bought his dream he later on became installed as Said Pasha in this position.
The dream of the gypsy is a true dream (ru’yaa saadeqa), which is the inheritance of prophecy for us in our days. Dreams are 1/46 part of prophecy. Why? Because nowadays true dreams still are possible. True dreams come from God Himself and are clear, so they don’t need any interpretation.
There are several types of true dreams:

1. They may give you an order to do something.
2. They may forbid you to do something.
3. They may give you a good tiding.
4. They may give you a warning.
Some interesting questions are:
· How can we have true dreams?
· Who can have true dreams?
· Who sends us true dreams?

https://sufi-tavern.com/sufi-doctrine/sufism-and-dreams/

In The Red Book, the Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung wrote: “Dreams are the guiding words of the soul.

“Why should I henceforth not love my dreams and not make their riddling images into objects of my daily consideration?”

‘Dreams are the guiding words of the soul’

– Carl Jung
For Jung, dreams were a platform where symbols, both common to all humans and unique to the individual, arose to warn the dreamer of problems in the conscious life. His contemporary Sigmund Freud believed every aspect of a dream carried a symbolic significance, no matter how outwardly trivial it seemed.

https://themuslimtimes.info/2022/06/10/while-you-were-sleeping-the-importance-of-dreams-in-middle-eastern-culture/

[guest587]

Thanks Steve. I mean no disrespect to anyone interested in sadhguru, I don't follow him or care to. It interests me that you are finding Sufi connection to dreams. Especially because I had a dream, "I am Sufi." and am often drawn to and fall back on Sufi wisdom. I've had a conscious OBE and in my minds eye I saw a mandala like on muslim temples. This might be an indication of a past life? And now I am moving on in a more independent manner as a Westerner forging his own.

[Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us?]

We have had a lot of quotes over the years from different spiritual people and their followers. Sometimes I happen to be scrolling thru videos on an engine search and come across something… really doesn’t mean I’m following someone. In this case I do see that many people have many superficial dreams but that is not about all our dreams. It seems to me the more we raise our consciousness and receptivity the more significant all aspects of our life become.

[Jitendra Hy-do-u-no-us?]

Thanks Steve. I mean no disrespect to anyone interested in sadhguru, I don't follow him or care to. It interests me that you are finding Sufi connection to dreams. Especially because I had a dream, "I am Sufi." and am often drawn to and fall back on Sufi wisdom. I've had a conscious OBE and in my minds eye I saw a mandala like on muslim temples. This might be an indication of a past life? And now I am moving on in a more independent manner as a Westerner forging his own.

Isn't it fascinating we always seem to carry on wonderfully on the phone much better than here.... not as much static electricity.... it will get you everytime! ooooooooooooffffffff yea fragments of consciousness peeping thru time.

When people share so many wonderful experiences together, it is quite useless to try to persuade one another of various political differences that only polarize our culture. It is tantamount to dispute about any physical topic in this dimension, there is always that element of duality that separates people, while spiritual consciousness transcends duality and unites people.

[guest587]

It may say more about the voice in our head than the man behind the screen.

It's a challenge at times recognizing the disturbances within, and how to navigate them. Even more challenging, is how to hear what someone is actually saying on a forum.

Often I try to imagine you and your personality to alleviate any disturbance I might have with you on your forum. Lately I am finding it important to honor my relationships. We've established friendship, and my hope is we try to treat each other with kindness.

Making peace with those around us is doing the work of miracles. And if it can't be, at least we are making efforts to make peace within. Cheers~