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« Reply #45 on: Dec 28, 2009 06:01 pm »

Steve, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. And also thank you for your prayers in divine love, spoken from the  *heart* , as is your thread *the Miracle of Love*.

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« Reply #46 on: Dec 28, 2009 10:09 pm »


Amor i am glad you brought up this subject again. i really do not think it is a 'trick question' as you described it. i do not think that one is always thinking of the past either. Have you ever felt excruciating pain? i have and most people have. You are totally in the now and feeling that agony and you would do anything to get out of the now. i am trying to make a point here. The point is that awareness is important at times. Although at other times like when we are in the trenches; all we can do is practice the presence or think of having divine help or pray outloud. Sometimes when we are practicing the presence all the time we often have to also be aware of what we are doing as well. Therefore it seems to me that practicing the presence and mindfulness are both an integral part of my spiritual life. There is no hard and fast rule for every occasion.

Finally we are never going to get out of this perdictiment called life where we have to feel these alternating waves of sorrow and joy, happiness and sadness, pain and pleasure etc. unless we practice meditation to eventually arrise above these doaulities.
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Hiya Steve,

I wasn't ignoring your reply. I was infact soul searching for an appropriate answer to share with you. One I spoke of trick question I was referring to the concept of "suffering."

Anyways, I will speak on what you said of being in excruciating pain. Let's use going to the dentist as an example. Getting those needles in the mouth, or having a tooth ache. You say that being in the now in those circumstances are not an appropriate time to be in the now. Let's say you are in the dentist chair, or leading up to the dentist, and are in pain. You then focus on not being in pain, or focus on the the day after the dentists trip. Focus on that time you went on vacation and had the greatest time of your life. Etc..

What you are doing is shifting your focus from the pain you are in to something else. In other words you are not concentrating on the pain. You have focused somewhere else. Some will say that pain really only happens if you think about it, or focus on it. In a way it is true. It's not that it doesn't happen it's that you have shifted your focus to somewhere else.

So being in the  now is not about the pain. Unless being in the now for you would be focusing on the pain that you are in. What about the chair you are sitting on, and the light that is shining down upon you. The air that is blowing on your face.. Etc..
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« Reply #47 on: Dec 29, 2009 11:10 am »

So being in the  now is not about the pain. Unless being in the now for you would be focusing on the pain that you are in. What about the chair you are sitting on, and the light that is shining down upon you. The air that is blowing on your face.. Etc..

Yes i would agree. i think that we do have limitations on awareness in the now. At these times we can focus on other things. My approach would be to constantly practice the presence which would bring another factor into the equation. i think that mindfulness is a good practice. There are times that practicing the presence would help for me and there are times when mindfulness should be used to remedy being absorbed in practicing the presence when there are practical matters to take ccare of.....

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« Reply #48 on: Jan 12, 2010 01:33 pm »

Interesting book, " Little Book of Zen " , I found this :

Ummon's  " Every Day is a Good Day "

" Ummon addressed the assembly and said, "I am not asking you about the days before the fifteenth of the month. But what about after the fifteenth ?
Come and give me a word about those days.
And he himself gave the answer for them. " Every day is a good day "

The days before the fifteenth of the month could be the days before today, or could be the days before you were born,
or the days before your enlightenment.
Ummon is not asking about what has happened before the present moment
" What happens after the fifteenth? " is Ummon's way of asking what happens to consciousness at this point in time and in the future.
No one could answer Ummon, so he gave the answer himself -

'when you are in samadhi, every day is a good day, you don't ask about the past, nor wonder about the future. You are here, you are now.'



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« Reply #49 on: Nov 21, 2013 03:38 pm »

Hi steve!
what do you do for that ?
Prabhat Sinha

One thing we can do to practice mindfulness is to talk to ourselves....reminding ourselves what we are doing each and every moment: Now i am washing dishes. i am being a good listener on the phone.  Now i am typing these words. i am doing it to serve a higher purpose; God. i am serving you Lord. i am serving you!
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« Reply #50 on: Nov 21, 2013 04:19 pm »

Hi steve!
what do you do for that ?
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One thing we can do to practice mindfulness is to talk to ourselves....reminding ourselves what we are doing each and every moment: Now i am washing dishes. i am being a good listener on the phone.  Now i am typing these words. i am doing it to serve a higher purpose; God. i am serving you Lord. i am serving you!

I talked to myself for years and ended up in the nut house. I especially like macadamias! I had a girlfriend named Macadamia. She had a hard shell to crack! Also psychic she was &€ŁĄ₩$#!=%.could see through your windows.
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« Reply #51 on: Sep 25, 2017 02:03 am »

I often find myself being grateful and thankful for the friends i have and praying for them. Also i often ask to be placed and be aware of the divine order around me. It is nice to have an afternoon off to think of God and practice our spiritual sadhana.
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