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« Reply #15 on: Jun 21, 2014 06:38 am »

Weirdest thing about the "Adam and Eve" story might be that their kids had to have sex with each other to create the Human race. 

If were a comedian, I'd have that set up better, with a nice punchline.

Life is inherently funny and absurd!


I hope aliens are entertained by all this great Human drama and comedy!
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 02, 2014 12:30 am »

Weirdest thing about the "Adam and Eve" story might be that their kids had to have sex with each other to create the Human race. 

If were a comedian, I'd have that set up better, with a nice punchline.

Life is inherently funny and absurd!


I hope aliens are entertained by all this great Human drama and comedy!

yea that would mean the Bible openly encourages homosexuality above hetrosexuality.
well it would improve over population problems!
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 22, 2014 10:36 pm »

Guys, you are free to laugh here but my main point about gay marriage is that the spouses in the wedding look grotesque.
Is this an objective or a subjective feeling?

I also get back to karma: gay people may not enjoy the same legal rights of straight people just because that's another aspect of their karmic burden.

So, insisting on wanting legal gay marriage, in this view would make up another unlearnt karmic lesson, leading to more karmic burdens. I know gays may argue that being gay is a privilege not a burden but my hypothesis is that being gay= having to learn a karmic lesson= karmic burden
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 23, 2014 06:47 am »

All I'm saying is that Steve sure does spend a lot of time at the YMCA.

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« Reply #19 on: Jul 23, 2014 09:01 am »

Peavy; you're a real work!
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 23, 2014 04:58 pm »

All I'm saying is that Steve sure does spend a lot of time at the YMCA.

Sorry for being dense, but I didn't grasp that!
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 23, 2014 10:03 pm »

All I'm saying is that Steve sure does spend a lot of time at the YMCA.

Sorry for being dense, but I didn't grasp that!

Those jokes come from inside his head and quite often they stay there... I'm glad you called him on it! Yet sometimes his humor is great. I think it depends on how much it is leveled at someone supposedly personally. There's ego in taking things personally and there's ego in directing them personally.  Grin There's a lot of mirrors around here....that's how we learn!
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« Reply #22 on: Apr 02, 2015 02:26 am »

Tyranny by definition is the misuse of rulership. If a ruler imposes his or her will upon others selfishly, imposes on their right of self-determination they are using their power tyranically. Self-determination necessitates freedom of choice. This is a God given freedom - the freedom of choice. In this sense those among us including ourselves have the God given gift of free choice and self determination.

These qualities are circumscribed by laws and government only to the extent that others are not allowed the same freedom. When someone imposes their will on others ruling turns into satanic tyranny.
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« Reply #23 on: Apr 02, 2015 10:11 pm »

Steve, I opened in the other forum the thread 'The tiranny of gays', because it pretty much conveys the idea, although in magnified terms, that gays are trying in a rather arrogant way (like tyrants) to impose their views on the rest of society.

Since we are in a democracy, if the majority believes that gay marriage and adoption is an absurdity, then it should remain as such.

I tend to be a revolutionary in many things, but in this aspect I'm pretty reluctant. Gays in western society already enoy equal rights, as equal as it comes. Why we should accept their tirannically (in this sense the term is used as in unduly obstinate) imposed idea of an ancient cultural institution which by definition takes place between man and woman (marriage) which may be expanded to same sex?

As I've explained in the other forum, if we should yield the the desire of gays, then we should be fair and include the zoophiliacs and fetishist, to allow marriage between man /woman  and animals and man/woman and objects.
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« Reply #24 on: Jun 30, 2015 05:53 am »

Supreme Court Rules In Favor Of Same Sex Marriage

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/27/us/supreme-court-same-sex-marriage.html?referrer=
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« Reply #25 on: Jul 01, 2015 05:22 pm »

I dont' know if it is some bias of mine or there is some other reason but I'm still very much against such decision, which defies logic in the words of Ben CArson. I'm so much against it that I would veven vote Ben Carson himself, even though he's too extreme at times with other topics.

In Europe some countries, like Germany, allow so-called gay unions, which are not religious marriages , although teh legal rights are the same. I'm curious to know how Ben Carson would react to such a strategy. It would put gay union outside of the religious sphere, so maybe he would be happy with that.

In Italy there is talk about that, the attempts will follow probably the line of the German strategy, that is legal unions will be possible but no Church Weddings. Nevertheless, since giving the same legal rights is going to be a financial burden to society, it will be difficult to get the same identical benefits of hetero-couples.

I'm probably going to vote for the most anti-gay-union party, sorry for being such a despicable bastard, I can't help it!
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« Reply #26 on: Jul 01, 2015 05:26 pm »

Also, in relation to Steve's point that gay marriages would relieve the issue of an overpopulated planet, it appears that Italy (and probably most western countries) right now have a zero growth. Population is no more growing. If it were for teh Italian-born citizens, Italy woudl have negative growth. The zero growth is caused by the immigrants, who have an above the national average number of children.

So, no need of gay marriage to control the Birth rate in Italy (and the western society in general).

Why the most underdeveloped countries contribute the most to overpopulation remains a mistey. Maybe it's a good topic for another thread.
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« Reply #27 on: Jul 01, 2015 07:17 pm »

The testing of our tolerance seems to increase daily.
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« Reply #28 on: Jul 01, 2015 08:31 pm »

Also, in relation to Steve's point that gay marriages would relieve the issue of an overpopulated planet, it appears that Italy (and probably most western countries) right now have a zero growth. Population is no more growing. If it were for teh Italian-born citizens, Italy woudl have negative growth. The zero growth is caused by the immigrants, who have an above the national average number of children.

So, no need of gay marriage to control the Birth rate in Italy (and the western society in general).

Why the most underdeveloped countries contribute the most to overpopulation remains a mistey. Maybe it's a good topic for another thread.

Please look at the latest post i put under population explosion. The more gay marriages the better. Family values as we once new them are dead in today's world. If i hear anybody talk about having kids I cringe. People talk about having more control over population but most of them have kids of their own. Saying there is no population problem in my backyard is like saying... gee I can afford to ruin the world with more kids-what's wrong with you? I do not know what western world u r referring to but clearly the United Clones of America has a population problem.

There is still hope if everyone becomes gay, refuses to marry or has untraditional values about relationships that do not involve marriage and the family values associated with having  kids and being married.
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« Reply #29 on: Jul 02, 2015 01:40 am »

Well, if gay marriage were to solve a problem like overpopulation, I suppose you might be choosing the lesser of two evils.

But you would still be choosing evil.
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