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« on: Aug 15, 2014 04:48 am »

Life is so meaningful. There are so many intense encounters with others and so many moments really lived and enjoyed. Sometimes i wonder when and if i will meet these people again. In the meantime what can I do but pray for them and thank God they crossed my path. Some people have really made a difference in my life. They really stand out as enriching my life. There are those that recognize... with all our differences how we were fortunate to spend time together. To experience this thing called life and be a part of each others experience of this greatness that is life.
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« Reply #1 on: Aug 15, 2014 12:41 pm »

What amazes me is that when and if you do connect with the past and people from the past - the amazing different responses you get. On a limited level i have done so. These are some of the responses i recieved: Some people said that they appreciated my friendship when others were ostracizing them. I have had one person say i was stalking them when I was a long distance away (trying to get in touch or stay in contact on the internet can apparently be considered stalking.)... another said they loved me more than any relationship they had... some will ignore you.... some one said they wondered why i did not respond to an old letter. Someone said not to contact them again. A couple people asked me to come and live with them. Some called me and hoped i would move back in their area. One person became much closer and more of a friend than before.  i have had some pass to the next life and wished i had contacted them before it happened. Some said they were glad to hear from me and hoped to stay in touch. There have been apologies on both sides and sometimes no regrets except not staying in touch. Someone said i was the best friend they ever had. What a variety of responses.... which leads me to believe that how we feel about the past and what happened is very subjective.

i believe it is worth it to see where people have gone and to express your appreciation of them and the times you spent together. Some people may not appreciate it but you can always leave them alone and take satisfaction in the fact that there are others who were and still are wonderful friends that you can meet up with from life to life.

I believe that every person we meet this life, for any length of time is from the past anyhow. That is what the Master's have said. We are just given a fresh start to make things better this time around or build on what we have worked on previously. We can't control the response of others but we can be kind from our end.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 15, 2014 04:47 pm »

I believe that every person we meet this life, for any length of time is from the past anyhow. That is what the Master's have said. We are just given a fresh start to make things better this time around or build on what we have worked on previously. We can't control the response of others but we can be kind from our end.

Isn't it too much to say that we already met 'every person we meet in this life'? I mean, you make it sound as if there is no room for new meetings.
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 15, 2014 05:31 pm »

I believe that every person we meet this life, for any length of time is from the past anyhow. That is what the Master's have said. We are just given a fresh start to make things better this time around or build on what we have worked on previously. We can't control the response of others but we can be kind from our end.

Isn't it too much to say that we already met 'every person we meet in this life'? I mean, you make it sound as if there is no room for new meetings.

Notice i said 'for any length of time'. I remember Anandamoy saying 'when you see people together for a period of time it is not by coincidence but something they have put much work into from life to life.' Regardless of the relationship. Do you have a different insight? I do not claim to be an expert on this. I recall various Buddhist texts saying that we have lived so many life times that every person we have come in contact with is someone we have seen before. i suppose it would depend somewhat on how new of a soul we were to being in the human drama as opposed to being in the animal kingdom. I doubt that new souls would spend very much time with us since they are on a long adventure... ours is getting more and more repetitive in the human drama with insights into still higher dimensions from the astral and causal worlds. Yet there is plenty of open terrain to explore in shuttling between the terrestrial and celestial realms.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 15, 2014 07:41 pm »

who meets who?
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 16, 2014 12:08 am »

Steve: I really have no particular insight. If you say for any lenght of time in the sense 'for some significant lenght of time' then maybe it's more sensible
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 16, 2014 12:14 am »

Steve: I really have no particular insight. If you say for any lenght of time in the sense 'for some significant lenght of time' then maybe it's more sensible

Yes. I think we can surmise that these people we are spending time with played some significant role in past scenarios.
When we get insights on it we can understand why those around us often act in ways that may not apply to current events:They are still seeing us in that old role from a past life... although it usually is very unconscious on their part.
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 16, 2014 12:40 am »

I don't see much benefit in making too many speculations about past lives.
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« Reply #8 on: Aug 16, 2014 12:58 am »

I don't see much benefit in making too many speculations about past lives.

Speculations? To see a vision? To go to a doctor and find out there is nothing wrong with you? It is good to find out why you thought there was. Sure; Aren't we all trying get out of the dark halls of speculation hence: meditation Through meditation we begin to see we are trapped on one picture frame with many frames preceding and following. To see the whole picture though... not just one frame. To see from beginning to end and all in the now.

Some of these things go from one life to another and we continue playing out old roles. Sometime we have to break out of these roles.It helps to be conscious of the role we continue playing out that is no longer helping us this time around. You too act out things unconsciously. We all do it. Where does this behavior originate? Certainly we could just work on the symtoms but it often helps to see the causes. Seeing the cause makes it easier to recognize the unconscious symtoms - so we can recognize why others may treat us certain ways they themselves may be unconscious of. We no longer need to play out these old roles that are no longer helping us. We also can work on strengths we have gained from the past if we are aware of them.

We are in the age of space annihilation but a higher age to come will be; the time annihilators.
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 21, 2014 05:12 pm »

I don't see much benefit in making too many speculations about past lives.

You and I both came to into this life under the rays of the Moon which is the ruler of Cancer. This position denotes a need to let go and also an incredible tenacity - the crab can hold on with its claws. In this sense it is important - in my observations - to release old relationships that manifest from the past: If these people no longer serve a useful purpose in our development. They can live stagnate in the past that we once shared with them while new soul soldiers from the past arise to take their place on the battle field kurushetra; the spiritual battle field of life.

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« Reply #10 on: Aug 02, 2015 05:01 pm »

Steve: I really have no particular insight. If you say for any lenght of time in the sense 'for some significant lenght of time' then maybe it's more sensible

Yes well I can say that all the people I have met for any significant amount of time are important in my life and they are still with me. They may feel differently about me but I ask this; Does not God think of us whether or not we think of him? Especially those who are on that final long stretch homeward.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 02, 2015 10:51 pm »

[Does not God think of us whether or not we think of him? Especially those who are on that final long stretch homeward.

Most probably so, expressed in limited human concepts.
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 22, 2015 01:10 am »

I believe that every person we meet this life, for any length of time is from the past anyhow. That is what the Master's have said. We are just given a fresh start to make things better this time around or build on what we have worked on previously. We can't control the response of others but we can be kind from our end.
Isn't it too much to say that we already met 'every person we meet in this life'? I mean, you make it sound as if there is no room for new meetings.

i do not know the answers to such questions mccoy. i know i have heard the monks say that the people we meet this life we have met before.... to what extent this is true or untrue i have no way of knowing at this stage in my evolution. i have learned this though; Some people we meet and share love with r not capable of friendships or love. They only can 'love' and express friendship in a very limited personal way. If for some reason your outlook towards them is not satisfactory with their conception of friendship they often will make a break with you and blame the conditions of parting on you. It is very childish and shows a lack of spiritual understanding.

Taking it personally and feeling dejected only makes things worst and often people try to punish their 'friends and lovers' with different levels of abandonment. This is 10 year old behavior. Often people like this wonder why they were abandoned themselves by others. But to a observer it is obvious they r only perpetuating what they themselves have experienced. The vicious merry-go-round of karmic events continues. It is best for us to jump off while it is possible to sustain light injuries.
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 25, 2015 01:08 pm »

My personal realization at this point is that I I'm not looking for more friendship or companionship. I'm pretty busy with my job(s) and with family so cannot socialize and do not feel the need for it. I just tend to be friendly with colleaugues at work, accordingly to their willingness. Also I have no difficulties to befriend people in extra-job activities, if they are willing to socialize friendly. But I cannot give more time to such people than the time strictly necessary to carry out the activity (like now I'm playing in a jazz lab but I have no time to hang out playing outside the lab).

I also like international environments so these fora are pretty much suited to me, cultivating friendship in a spiritual environment and according to time available.

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« Reply #14 on: Dec 22, 2015 03:42 pm »

My personal realization at this point is that I I'm not looking for more friendship or companionship. I'm pretty busy with my job(s) and with family so cannot socialize and do not feel the need for it. I just tend to be friendly with colleaugues at work, accordingly to their willingness. Also I have no difficulties to befriend people in extra-job activities, if they are willing to socialize friendly. But I cannot give more time to such people than the time strictly necessary to carry out the activity (like now I'm playing in a jazz lab but I have no time to hang out playing outside the lab).

I also like international environments so these fora are pretty much suited to me, cultivating friendship in a spiritual environment and according to time available.


i understand what u mean by time availability. I think the alternative is having partners. Associates if you will. This is more of a relationship by convenience. Based on; You do this for me.... I do this for you. True service though would imply being of spiritual help and support. Other things are passing. Spirituality... true spirituality is lasting.
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