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« on: Oct 06, 2014 01:54 am »

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« Reply #1 on: Feb 14, 2016 10:32 pm »

i got to thinking of mccoy when i read and reread lesson 94: Does Evil Exist?

"Through the good force we see the solution of problems, but that evil force keeps on creating new misunderstandings." PY

In lesson 94 Paramahansa Yogananda explains what evil is!! It is a break through in our understanding! God saw that there was no one to enjoy him but Himself. Since everything is part of God, the only way God could create a sense of individuality was to cast over all the illusion of separateness, which is called Maya and thus began the force of evil that is personified in Satan. PY further explains the reasoning of the archangel Satan and his function in creation.
"People will be so interested in the exciting changes of Maya that they will forget they are immortal Sons of God and that they can return to him." ~ Satan
He felt that if creation should seize to exist then he would also. So he perpetuates the storm of delusion so he can have a separate existence.
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 15, 2016 09:49 pm »

mccoy I thought of u while reading this lesson because u have mentioned Satan so many times over the years. We don't use the word so much in our culture and many people  do not even believe in such a creature. I tend to think of this force as something we let get to us that robs our peace. It can be a person or situation or both. But here PY is talking about maya and this illusion of separateness that God himself cast over us so it was possible to enjoy himself.

Then to make it even more real he gave this archangel the ability to have a choice between evil and good and this creature called satan is working against everything in the the world that is the force that is drawing us back to God. It is somewhat like a ferry tale. I cant really imagine meeting such an evil force.

Although i really believe some people i have met in my life are fullfilling Satans purpose by causing misunderstandings in relationships and trying to destroy and divide people. In this way i can see Satan at work.
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 15, 2016 10:23 pm »

Guess we wouldn't know how good is good without evil.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 21, 2016 07:10 pm »

Lesson 93

In Lesson 93 Paramahansa Yogananda explains the technique of relaxing at will. He says that "the first signs of cosmic consciousness are: The fixed gaze, the consciously stilled heart, and breathlessness. If one cannot demonstrate these he has not attained Cosmic Consciousness."

"The ego attempts to satisfy through material channels the soul's constant insatiable longing for GOD. Far from accomplishing its objective, it increases man's misery. The soul's hunger can never be appeased by indulgence in the senses. When man realizes this and masters his ego, that is when he achieves self-control, his life becomes glorified by the awareness of divine bliss while still in the flesh."

i find it interesting that PY is saying mastering the ego and self-control are synonymous.

"By means of maya, the cosmic delusive force, God is holding the searchlights of your senses so that you are attracted to matter."

This is a complex God we are talking about who gives us maya and enlightenment at the same time depending on what we choose. Were we in this decision making process when we ended up here?
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 21, 2016 09:30 pm »

....Were we in this decision making process when we ended up here?

I believe we weren't !
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 22, 2016 01:27 am »

Guess we wouldn't know how good is good without evil.

i believe most of us here have seen enough evil. That is why we are here. We are trying to find a way out so we do not have to be faced by any more evil. Good and evil: two sides to the same coin. How to get beyond both?



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« Reply #7 on: Feb 22, 2016 10:43 pm »

In Lesson 93 Paramahansa Yogananda explains the technique of relaxing at will. He says that "the first signs of cosmic consciousness are: The fixed gaze, the consciously stilled heart, and breathlessness. If one cannot demonstrate these he has not attained Cosmic Consciousness."

There seems to be so very few that have attained breathlessness, I mean I have not heard or met anyone yet.  Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 22, 2016 11:22 pm »

Neither I did. Just read about 'ordinary' people like Sri Daya Mata and bro. Achalananda and a few selected ones....
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 23, 2016 01:52 am »

In Lesson 93 Paramahansa Yogananda explains the technique of relaxing at will. He says that "the first signs of cosmic consciousness are: The fixed gaze, the consciously stilled heart, and breathlessness. If one cannot demonstrate these he has not attained Cosmic Consciousness."

There seems to be so very few that have attained breathlessness, I mean I have not heard or met anyone yet.  Undecided

I want u to know that i am not claiming cosmic consciousness....  far from it.

But i did enter this breathless state once. i believe it may have been a 'gift' from the guru since it happened at a srf convocation years ago. i still remember it as if it was yesterday.

i was practicing hong sau when suddenly i started feeling this blissful feeling of tranquility surrounding me. But i will tell u exactly what happened after that. My mind thought '  I am not breathing. ' Immediately that thought that 'I' am not breathing started my breath going again. It is a very subtle phenomena.... this ego that wants to identify with everything. Even the thought of 'I' am not breathing. Once 'I' entered the picture the soul bliss was blown away by an ego gust of wind.

To me; what is important at this time is that we r conscious of the breath and aware that it is slowing down. The spaces increasing between breaths. This is without forcing or straining to lengthen the time between breaths. We notice the space between breaths.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 23, 2016 05:40 am »

I want u to know that i am not claiming cosmic consciousness....  far from it.

I actually meant that since PY says things like that, and, there doesn't seem to be very many around who have done what he says, it's a tad discouraging.

It's like saying, we could be like the matrix movie and fly away like superman if we put our minds to it, but I don't know anyone like that. And the irony is, if someone could do that, they wouldn't tell you. What a paradox.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 23, 2016 10:33 pm »

I want u to know that i am not claiming cosmic consciousness....  far from it.

I actually meant that since PY says things like that, and, there doesn't seem to be very many around who have done what he says, it's a tad discouraging.

It's like saying, we could be like the matrix movie and fly away like superman if we put our minds to it, but I don't know anyone like that. And the irony is, if someone could do that, they wouldn't tell you. What a paradox.

This is my response SI. I could say the same thing about great musicians, military leaders or psychics. It does not mean they r not there. I have met all the people i have listed plus spiritual people that have extremely unusual powers and gifts. But these people were not in my back yard or even my home town. I had to travel and spend time and money to find them. These people did not have to tell me. They were living proof in their specific abilities.
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 24, 2016 11:47 am »

...But i did enter this breathless state once. i believe it may have been a 'gift' from the guru since it happened at a srf convocation years ago. i still remember it as if it was yesterday....

Steve, do you have a recall of the lenght of breathlessness?
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 24, 2016 12:38 pm »

...But i did enter this breathless state once. i believe it may have been a 'gift' from the guru since it happened at a srf convocation years ago. i still remember it as if it was yesterday....

Steve, do you have a recall of the lenght of breathlessness?

The most fascinating thing about meditation is that when u really experience such sublime states there is a sense of timelessness. So if the mind were to cognize time as the mind 'grasped' the idea of no breath the function of 'thinking' envelops the bliss of 'experiencing'.  So if i was experiencing timelessness asking the question how long is somewhat contradictory to the phenomena of 'timelessness'. This leads to another question. Can the mind understand and effectively express what the soul experiences in material measurements? Maybe so but i am not able to since this experience was at those precious 'moments' which are 'timeless'. Didn't Yogananda have to find out how much time elapsed after some of his experiences?

It would have had to b long enough to recognize there was no need for breathing. These r not such common experience for me that i have found a way to verify them in quantifying terms. Perhaps this would satisfy the scientist in us all!
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 24, 2016 06:44 pm »

Steve, I sure can imagine the timelessness of that state and the difficulties in recalling the time elapsed. Unfortunately we are thrown those experiences very rarely, the techniques are supposed to make them happen at will, but that's the theory alas, real life is pretty different!
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