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« Reply #45 on: Oct 11, 2016 03:44 am »

I don't really know what you mean by your thinking is more critical than mine. But I don't actually accept the idea that "enlightened" beings reincarnate anywhere.

On another note...I am on Starbucks wifi at the moment. There is a kid and his mother who is getting a sermon from someone that sounds very much like a preacher or minister of some kind. He is brow beating the poor kid about respect, a word he has said possibly about 30 times now and counting. He read something from ephesians, blah blah blah. His tone is getting ever more shrill by the minute.  Shocked

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« Reply #46 on: Oct 11, 2016 03:47 am »

People like this man I am listening to are nothing but abusers.... Undecided
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« Reply #47 on: Oct 11, 2016 03:58 am »

In a way, this whole conversation that I am unfortunate enough to be overhearing at this moment basically answers my question from a few posts back.

 Roll Eyes

He is preaching a sermon to the kid chock full of submission to authority.

Call him a...submissionary.

Maybe this'll block it out...

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« Reply #48 on: Oct 11, 2016 07:30 am »

Hi Brock I continued our conversation under 'satsang' near the bottom of the forum as a part of 'Freedom to Express' ; since we are venturing in a different area.
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« Reply #49 on: Oct 12, 2016 05:07 am »

Sounds good.
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« Reply #50 on: Oct 12, 2016 01:22 pm »

Forgive me if this seems disrespectful to Yogananda, but one can't help noticing that he died quite a young man and no SRFers that I am aware of have lifespans which deviated significantly from average.

Again, please, forgive me for casting doubt on your guru's advice. I just...I mean what's the point of a forum if we can't discuss honestly?

Speaking of life span Paramahansa Yogananda commented;

"Virtue, also may win the soul an early release."  Paramahansa Yogananda

As you may know Paramahansa Yogananda did not want to come to the United States nor did he want to start up a spiritual organization in the states. He wanted to be a Himalayan yogi. He called organizations 'nothing but a hornets nest of troubles.'  It was ordained by Babaji and Sri Yukteswar reminded Paramahansa Yogananda of his mission when he resisted it. It seems to me he got the early release he wanted from all the humanly overwhelming responsibilities he had. Not everyone is looking for a long stay here in this school house for spiritual retards called earth.
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« Reply #51 on: Oct 31, 2016 12:02 pm »

Steve, where did you draw the following quote? I realize there is maybe a missing part. Is it possible to complete it? I believe that is one of the more coincisely enlightening truths expressed on nutrition.
Underlined, as regards.....and proportion. Maybe 'quantity and proportions'?

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"All the proper food materials can be classified under the following : minerals, vitamins, carbohydrates, proteins, fats.

Individuals differ in their needs as regards. and proportion of these classes of foods. Occupational activity is one factor. The need of strengthening certain faculties and organs and body parts is another consideration. So it takes study of foods and study of your needs, in order to select your food properly."

~ Paramahansa Yogananda
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« Reply #52 on: Oct 31, 2016 03:08 pm »

When I get home I will have to look. The quote was from the lessons. It looks like there was a mistake made..... spent time with friends out of town this week end.
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« Reply #53 on: Nov 04, 2016 06:16 am »

Steve, where did you draw the following quote? I realize there is maybe a missing part. Is it possible to complete it? I believe that is one of the more coincisely enlightening truths expressed on nutrition.
Underlined, as regards.....and proportion. Maybe 'quantity and proportions'?

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"All the proper food materials can be classified under the following : minerals, vitamins, carbohydrates, proteins, fats.




Individuals differ in their needs as regards amount and proportion of these classes of foods. Occupational activity is one factor. The need of strengthening certain faculties and organs and body parts is another consideration. So it takes study of foods and study of your needs, in order to select your food properly."

~ Paramahansa Yogananda

Namaste dear friend. The quotes is from the lesson reviews and for lesson 83.

" Individuals differ in their needs as regards amount and proportion of these classes of foods. Occupational activities is one factor. The need of strengthening certain faculties and organs and body parts is another consideration. So it takes study of foods and study of your needs, in order to select your  food properly." P.Y.

Mccoy I will put a longer version under the srf lessons no. 83. (For members of spiritualportal only.)
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« Reply #54 on: Nov 04, 2016 03:26 pm »

Thanks Steve, the great Yogananda was definitely endowed with superior intuitive wisdom.

Today science is giving positive evidence of the possibility of manipulating our diets to achieve longevity, health, to loose weight or to gain weight, to gain muscles or to increase cognition, by making out the single metabolic and genetic factors which govern such faculties and organs.
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« Reply #55 on: Jan 11, 2017 11:38 am »

Now science is dealing with concepts like negligible senbsecence and biological immortality. Some animals and organisms seem not to age or seem to enjoy immortality (they only die from illness or accidents). The lobster, the rockfish, the hydra.

I find the anti-aging and longevity issue is pretty much hot these days. In the Science Fiction books I read once in a while, a common feature of the future society is rejuvenation treatments, usually practiced at regular intervals.

Now these concepts are becoming real. Societies have been founded which are researching the methods to slow down cellular senescence. What they describe is just what I read in science fiction books. Are they going to be able and how long shall it take? the incredible thing to me is that they are presently engaging in serious endeavours to reach bodily immortality (or very long lifespan).

Then basically it's just a simple matter of switching ourselves into lobster-like or stonefish-like cellular metabolism.

http://www.sens.org/about

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« Reply #56 on: Jan 11, 2017 11:53 am »

Now science is dealing with concepts like negligible senbsecence and biological immortality. Some animals and organisms seem not to age or seem to enjoy immortality (they only die from illness or accidents). The lobster, the rockfish, the hydra.

Then basically it's just a simple matter of switching ourselves into lobster-like or stonefish-like cellular metabolism.

A chance to reach liberation in one (loooong) lifetime?

The lobster purple people eaters?
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« Reply #57 on: Jan 17, 2017 10:14 pm »

Another suggested video, after the one with Dr. Attia, a shorter one and extremely interesting, on the ancestral body sensor of nutrients, the mammalian target of rapamycine, or mTOR.
The message here is clear: eat less proteins, live longer. As simple as that. mTOR is a genetic sensor which is activated by an abundance of proteins. This in ancestral times was the signal to grow and reproduce. Growth, after youth, is at the expense of manteinance & repair. Apparently, the body cannot grow and significantly repair at the same time. Growth, past the age of youth and barring exceptional circumstances like pregnancy, recovery and so on,  is also a mode which favours cancer cells growth and degenerative disease = premature death.
Again, I'm astounded that such doctors give out freely their time to the dissemination fo such priceless knowledge.

Dr. Ron Rosedale - 'The Early Ancestral Connection Between Protein, Cancer, Aging and TOR'

Are you still with us Methuselah?
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« Reply #58 on: Jan 19, 2017 06:38 pm »

Steve, I was wondering if metuselah is myself or some other forum members, I'm answering anyway.

One interesting link to Yoga is the concentrated diet cited in the Bagavad Gita which Yogananda hints at briefly. I'm trying to find it in his Gita commentary but unfortunately I cant. I have an hunch that such a diet is similar to Dr. Rosedale's low-carb, low protein, hi fat diet.
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