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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015 09:38 pm »

Hi Steve ……    I can see how eating strictly vegan would be quite a challenge for you !   I found a website which may be of a little help.    At www.happycow.net you can search for vegetarian and vegan restaurants in any town or city across the country.   I think it may even cover other countries.     I hope it's a bit helpful.    We all can only do what we can do, but it sure sounds like your heart is in the right place.

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL BEINGS !

Jai Guru,

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2015 11:13 pm »

Laila, Dr. Gerger site is very good. Maybe I became fixated on supplements- free diet but this is my present mental perspective, natural implies no supplements. Centuries ago food was healthier and richer, but variety was lesser, so there is some compensation in thsi respect.
The recent threads on diet in this forum have prompted me to study again food biochemistry. Even by cursory reserch I find that, even eating little, it is very possible to avoid supplementation of B12, iron, zinc and all other metals.

I'm in the process of changing my habits so that I'm pretty sure to take in enough basic nutrients, thanks also to homeostasis, which the supporters of supplements often ignore.

Re. springwater: if springwater and wellwater contain B12 that can be an index of pollution from coliform bacteria. Such pollution is often associated with other biological hazards. Dr. Geger says that very clearly. In the past, people could take B12 from polluted food, in the past though those who made it to 10-12 years age were very hardened people with an immune system as big as the Nimitz Carrier. Many Others just died, Death was not such a big matter centuries ago.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015 11:22 pm »

Steve, on the road diet. You can just do your best and add some vegan combos, as probably you are already doing.

You speak about nuts. Pumpkin seeds are a mine of iron and zinc, they can be taken averywhere with ease. I'm eating them now on a regular basis, at least one handful a day.

Almonds and raisin is such an exquisite combination that it takes will power not to overindulge.

One complete vegan meal: bananas, almonds and raisins, pure on-the-go food.

Also: pure or nearly pure chocolate is a mine of magnesium, zinc and iron.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2015 03:01 am »


I'm glad I started this thread because I'm learning a lot !   I thought I knew it all before, LOL.    Anyway, here's a video of Dr. Greger (I spelled it wrong before) discussing B12 on Bite Size Vegan Nuggets.   The whole series of Bite Size Nugget videos look REALLY interesting, by the way.   

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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2015 09:12 pm »

Hi Steve ……    I can see how eating strictly vegan would be quite a challenge for you !   I found a website which may be of a little help.    At www.happycow.net you can search for vegetarian and vegan restaurants in any town or city across the country.   I think it may even cover other countries.     I hope it's a bit helpful.    We all can only do what we can do, but it sure sounds like your heart is in the right place.

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL BEINGS !

Jai Guru,

Laila



Hello Laila there is a challenge i have: i drive a semi and there are very few restarant u can stop at. Small vegan restaurants would be out of the question since i would tear up there parking area and the cars in it.

Although I wanted to tell you I have a lot of vegan foods
for the week that are stored in a compartment of the truck;

Almonds, walnuts, almond butter, sesame seed bars, avacadoes, rasberries, corn chips, salsa stawberries, vegetable juice, energy drinks and some bread etc.

I have been rethinking my diet situation ever since Saturn entered my 6th house of health. This thread has been a major pivot point for me. I have been a vegetarian most of my life but we need to be flexible as spiritual beings and open to new possibilities if they can help us and the world around us.

I enjoy your sharing with us. Please check our welcome new members/welcome and relax area for more question I have for u.

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2015 11:53 pm »

Take a look at this video …… I was amazed to see how intelligent cows really are.   We are conditioned to think of them (and other farm animals) as "things", to use in any way we see fit.    The truth is they're intelligent, they have emotions and they feel pain, just as we do.    I didn't realize they could be this smart though !   Cheesy


http://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/everyone-should-see-this-side-of-cattle.php?ua_s=e-mail
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015 11:23 pm »

Take a look at this video …… I was amazed to see how intelligent cows really are.   We are conditioned to think of them (and other farm animals) as "things", to use in any way we see fit.    The truth is they're intelligent, they have emotions and they feel pain, just as we do.    I didn't realize they could be this smart though !   Cheesy


http://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/everyone-should-see-this-side-of-cattle.php?ua_s=e-mail


Laila looking forward to seeing this video. Many times I have heard that pigs also are very aware. To think; that they are taken away to Dachau and Auschwitz prison camps only to die mercilessly I have heard the cries in semi trailers as they were going off for their execution.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2015 11:46 pm »

Steve, I've seen pigs in small family-held sties. They reminded me of dogs. Traditionally, they are hung upside down and they cut their throat, while alive, to let the blood drain down. I don't know how farmers can stand their human-like screams.

Ironically, the industrial farms are far less cruel, since pigs are killed quickly and painlessly.
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2015 10:25 am »

I hope that that's the case in Italy, McCoy, but unfortunately it isn't here or in the U.S.   I have seen many undercover investigation videos that show the abuse of pigs in factory farms.  During slaughter, they are often not stunned properly so they suffer a painful death.   But sad to say that is just one aspect of their suffering …... 

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/pigs/pig-transport-slaughter/
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2015 11:37 am »

Steve, I've seen pigs in small family-held sties. They reminded me of dogs. Traditionally, they are hung upside down and they cut their throat, while alive, to let the blood drain down. I don't know how farmers can stand their human-like screams.

Ironically, the industrial farms are far less cruel, since pigs are killed quickly and painlessly.

I hope that that's the case in Italy, McCoy, but unfortunately it isn't here or in the U.S.   I have seen many undercover investigation videos that show the abuse of pigs in factory farms.  During slaughter, they are often not stunned properly so they suffer a painful death.   But sad to say that is just one aspect of their suffering …... 

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/pigs/pig-transport-slaughter/

    Murder By Numbers
    By The Police

    Once that you've decided on a killing
    First you make a stone of your heart
    And if you find that your hands are still willing
    Then you can turn a murder into art

    There really isn't any need for bloodshed
    You just do it with a little more finesse
    If you can slip a tablet into someone's coffee
    Then it avoids an awful lot of mess

    It's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's
    It's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's

    Now if you have a taste for this experience
    If you're flushed with your very first success
    Then you must try a twosome or a threesome
    You'll find your conscience bothers you much less

    Because murder is like anything you take to
    It's a habit-forming need for more and more
    You can bump off every member of your family
    And anybody else you find a bore

    Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's
    Murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's

    Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious
    In history's great dark hall of fame
    All our greatest killers were industrious
    At least the ones that we all know by name

    But you can reach the top of your profession
    If you become the leader of the land
    For murder is the sport of the elected
    And you don't need to lift a finger of your hand


    Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's
    Murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your A, B, C, D, E
    1, 2, 3, A, B, C
    1, 2, 3, A, B, C
    1, 2, 3, A, B, C

    Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC
    Murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your A, B, C, D, E
    Songwriters: SUMMERS, BOB
    ©
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2015 11:53 pm »

Television has brought back murder in the home -where it belongs not at family or corporate style murder outlets.

Steve, I've seen pigs in small family-held sties. They reminded me of dogs. Traditionally, they are hung upside down and they cut their throat, while alive, to let the blood drain down. I don't know how farmers can stand their human-like screams.

Ironically, the industrial farms are far less cruel, since pigs are killed quickly and painlessly.

I hope that that's the case in Italy, McCoy, but unfortunately it isn't here or in the U.S.   I have seen many undercover investigation videos that show the abuse of pigs in factory farms.  During slaughter, they are often not stunned properly so they suffer a painful death.   But sad to say that is just one aspect of their suffering …... 

http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/pigs/pig-transport-slaughter/

    Murder By Numbers
    By The Police

    Once that you've decided on a killing
    First you make a stone of your heart
    And if you find that your hands are still willing
    Then you can turn a murder into art

    There really isn't any need for bloodshed
    You just do it with a little more finesse
    If you can slip a tablet into someone's coffee
    Then it avoids an awful lot of mess

    It's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's
    It's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's

    Now if you have a taste for this experience
    If you're flushed with your very first success
    Then you must try a twosome or a threesome
    You'll find your conscience bothers you much less

    Because murder is like anything you take to
    It's a habit-forming need for more and more
    You can bump off every member of your family
    And anybody else you find a bore

    Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's
    Murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's

    Now you can join the ranks of the illustrious
    In history's great dark hall of fame
    All our greatest killers were industrious
    At least the ones that we all know by name

    But you can reach the top of your profession
    If you become the leader of the land
    For murder is the sport of the elected
    And you don't need to lift a finger of your hand


    Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC's
    Murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your A, B, C, D, E
    1, 2, 3, A, B, C
    1, 2, 3, A, B, C
    1, 2, 3, A, B, C

    Because it's murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your ABC
    Murder by numbers, one, two, three
    It's as easy to learn as your A, B, C, D, E
    Songwriters: SUMMERS, BOB
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« Reply #26 on: Jun 07, 2015 12:22 am »

This is what we're up against in trying to create a more humane world for animals.    Big Ag has won again.    Really disturbing.     

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/04/ag-gag-veto-override?cmpid=tpfood-eml-2015-06-06-veto
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« Reply #27 on: Jun 07, 2015 09:20 pm »

This is what we're up against in trying to create a more humane world for animals.    Big Ag has won again.    Really disturbing.     

http://www.takepart.com/article/2015/06/04/ag-gag-veto-override?cmpid=tpfood-eml-2015-06-06-veto

It sounds like the governor tried to veto the law but was capsized by the state legislature in North Carolina who pushed through a law that criminalizes undercover investigations at farms and other businesses. They are trying to support their large death industry in North Carolina.
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