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« on: Oct 26, 2015 10:49 am »

"Anyone who does not at least spend one hour daily in meditation, is as good as dead."
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 26, 2015 01:00 pm »

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« Reply #2 on: Mar 06, 2016 03:28 am »

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Do you remember Brother Turiyananda? Did you ever meet him?

I met him once at the Lake Shrine. It was not an inspiring meeting, rather a strange one. I asked if I could take a swim in the lake since I believed I remember there was a special blessing attached to it. He answered NO and gave further explanations in a preaching-like tone. At the moment he seemed to me curmudgeon-like. He was looking at me as if I told some blasphemy. After a while I recalled the blessing was simply attached to being in that place.

i'm sorry mccoy but this made me laugh. But like you he had a very different sense of humor. This may strike u as unusual but there were actually women that dressed in their bathing suits and layed near the lake out in the sun. There were also people who would come there and teach classes on the lawn. Now if people swam there and people were laying in small bathing suits in the sun and others were teaching classes... well the place would be quite different.

My first meeting with him was somewhat like yours. Perhaps i have already shared it. i had just gone thru a challenging relationship at the time and sought some relief from it. i was walking around the Lake Shrine and met Brother Turiyananda. He told me at first meeting that i should be careful because he had seen looks like that on convicts. i broke up laughing and the spell was broken. He would use unusual shock therapy on people.

He asked me if i wanted to visit his room. i replied "Yes" He took me to the top of the windmill chapel and opened a door that exposed a room with nothing in it save a mat on the floor and a picture on the wall. i was immediately drawn to the picture because of the Gestapo medallion under the mans' neck. The man was a Nazi i thought and asked him about the picture. "That is Rommel. He might have fought for the wrong cause but he FOUGHT" Brother Turiyananda explained with a special emphasis on fought as though it was a spiritual strength.
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 06, 2016 03:49 pm »

"Anyone who does not at least spend one hour daily in meditation, is as good as dead."

It is very difficult to awaken to anything without meditation to open doors. People who rely only on their senses for information cannot experience the truth. That is why scientists will never discover spiritual experiences. Not until they conduct their experiments with more then physical instruments. We must experiment within.

i am so used to the information provided by my senses and the outer world that i have to remind self to set in silence at least twice a day to experience some truth.
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"Anyone who does not at least spend one hour daily in meditation, is as good as dead."

People who rely only on their senses for information cannot experience the truth. That is why scientists will never discover spiritual experiences. Not until they conduct their experiments with more then physical instruments. We must experiment within.

i am so used to the information provided by my senses and the outer world that i have to remind self to set in silence at least twice a day to experience some truth.

Yes, exactly.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 06, 2016 06:56 pm »

"Anyone who does not at least spend one hour daily in meditation, is as good as dead."

People who rely only on their senses for information cannot experience the truth. That is why scientists will never discover spiritual experiences. Not until they conduct their experiments with more then physical instruments. We must experiment within.

i am so used to the information provided by my senses and the outer world that i have to remind self to set in silence at least twice a day to experience some truth.

Yes, exactly.

I remember some of the insights that meditation gave to Brother Turiyananada. Once he told me we needed to terrace the hill beside the Lake Shrine where the new church stands. i asked him why. He said because he saw dark astral clouds. i asked him what they meant. He told me that it could rain and the hill could have mud run down on the adjacent property full of condominiums and we do not want to be responsible for that.. i volunteered some help. Six months later the Los Angeles mud slides occurred and many homes were damaged.

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« Reply #6 on: Mar 06, 2016 09:34 pm »

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Do you remember Brother Turiyananda? Did you ever meet him?

I met him once at the Lake Shrine. It was not an inspiring meeting, rather a strange one. I asked if I could take a swim in the lake since I believed I remember there was a special blessing attached to it. He answered NO and gave further explanations in a preaching-like tone. At the moment he seemed to me curmudgeon-like. He was looking at me as if I told some blasphemy. After a while I recalled the blessing was simply attached to being in that place.

i'm sorry mccoy but this made me laugh. But like you he had a very different sense of humor. This may strike u as unusual but there were actually women that dressed in their bathing suits and layed near the lake out in the sun. There were also people who would come there and teach classes on the lawn. Now if people swam there and people were laying in small bathing suits in the sun and others were teaching classes... well the place would be quite different.

My first meeting with him was somewhat like yours. Perhaps i have already shared it. i had just gone thru a challenging relationship at the time and sought some relief from it. i was walking around the Lake Shrine and met Brother Turiyananda. He told me at first meeting that i should be careful because he had seen looks like that on convicts. i broke up laughing and the spell was broken. He would use unusual shock therapy on people.

He asked me if i wanted to visit his room. i replied "Yes" He took me to the top of the windmill chapel and opened a door that exposed a room with nothing in it save a mat on the floor and a picture on the wall. i was immediately drawn to the picture because of the Gestapo medallion under the mans' neck. The man was a Nazi i thought and asked him about the picture. "That is Rommel. He might have fought for the wrong cause but he FOUGHT" Brother Turiyananda explained with a special emphasis on fought as though it was a spiritual strength.

i suppose we are all are inspired by different things. Must admit... no doubt Brother Turiyananda also had his days when he wasn't quite as good a host as he could have been...but he was (inspirational) to me even in his 'curmudgeon-like' behavior!

i remember once telling him that if he told me to go over a hill and there were enemy soldiers on the other side i would have done it. Perhaps that is because i did share a time and life with him under his command. He told me it was because his words had "Soul Force" Some people do have that effect on you---- just being in their presence... you feel a strong spiritual discipline and vibration. It may b up to us to b in tune with it. i believe people r in tune to what may suit them at the time especially if what you are experiencing is genuinely coming from the person involved.
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 09, 2016 03:39 pm »

Steve, I'm sure that, i given more occasions, I would have enjoyed the company of the redoubtable Bro. Turyiananda. I've read about him and read your recounts and he sure was a formidable figure. Also, I understand he took up very seriously the role of guardian of Lake Shrine, which probably avoided the possible degradation of a spiritual place into a public leisure place like many others.

It's interesting the episode about Erwin Rommel. It must have the German 'Iron Cross', since he was not Gestapo, rather Panzer division (tanks). Rommel was an incredible warrior. during the 1st world war he was a lietenant and led a small company very far into the Italian enemy lines, taking prisoners 9000 Italians. As a  general under Hitler, he nearly conquered all northern Africa, and was eventually defeated only because Hitler privileged the sending of fuel and supplies to the Russian front. his moniker was 'the desert fox'.
He was probably the most legendary of the military commanders in the 2nd WW. Apparently he did not denounce to Hitler the conspiracy which resulted in the failed assassination of the Germand Fuhrer, and so, since he was so popular, hitler proposed to him that, if he would have committed suicide, he would have saved his family.






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« Reply #8 on: Mar 09, 2016 09:51 pm »

Steve, I'm sure that, i given more occasions, I would have enjoyed the company of the redoubtable Bro. Turyiananda. I've read about him and read your recounts and he sure was a formidable figure. Also, I understand he took up very seriously the role of guardian of Lake Shrine, which probably avoided the possible degradation of a spiritual place into a public leisure place like many others.

It's interesting the episode about Erwin Rommel. It must have the German 'Iron Cross', since he was not Gestapo, rather Panzer division (tanks). Rommel was an incredible warrior. during the 1st world war he was a lietenant and led a small company very far into the Italian enemy lines, taking prisoners 9000 Italians. As a  general under Hitler, he nearly conquered all northern Africa, and was eventually defeated only because Hitler privileged the sending of fuel and supplies to the Russian front. his moniker was 'the desert fox'.
He was probably the most legendary of the military commanders in the 2nd WW. Apparently he did not denounce to Hitler the conspiracy which resulted in the failed assassination of the Germand Fuhrer, and so, since he was so popular, hitler proposed to him that, if he would have committed suicide, he would have saved his family.






Yes... the Iron Cross is what i meant. Turiyananda had quite a connection with Patton and his past life accounts as well. i believe that Turiyanada felt that he himself was a warrior in the military in past incarnations. That is why you may have been exposed to his 'gruff' style.

i became aware of his spiritual magnetism very early on and felt quite drawn to it. That has been the case in many of my encounters when i have 'connected' with something deeper in others i have met. The down side of this is that i can also be uncritical and somewhat naive in these 'connections'. Not everyone continuously displays their admirable qualities when circumstances bring less desirable qualities to the light of day. Turiyanada had the affect of awakening the sleeping heroic man in some of us. When we meet people we would die for there is something about them that commands respect.
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 11, 2018 10:01 am »

TURIYANANDA SAYINGS ~~ (from an SRF Devotee newsletter)

In loving memory, here are a few snippets of Br. Turiyananda’s sayings as [an SRF devotee] has written them down. Of course, for a total multimedia experience you have to add, in your mind, Brother’s heavy accent!

 “Our behavior during the day makes our meditation at night.”

“Drop it, and you have to drop it fast!”

“Lord, I would like this very much, but please don’t give it to me!”

“TV re-energizes the bad samskaras of sex and violence. If you take regular baths in low vibrations, you cannot ascend higher.”

“Thoughts have the power of materialization.  Therefore you have to change your process of thought.  There is no other way!”

“Stop worrying about the future of the world.  Surrender your life to God.”

“All my life I have taken care of this body and of this mind, and when I die I discover I am not this body and this mind, and all my life I have taken care of somebody else.”

“You have to be honest and say, Lord, I may have this question but I know I don’t understand the answer.”

Brother liked to quote St. Bernadette Soubirou: “For those who believe, nothing needs to be explained; for those who don’t believe, nothing can be explained.”

“Lord, if You forgive me the little jokes that I played on You, I will forgive you the big one You played on me!”

“If you want non-violence, the first thing you have to do is turn off television.”

“Don’t give too much time to the world.  Let the dead bury the dead, as Christ said. Anyone who does not at least spend one hour daily in meditation, is as good as dead.”

“The Lord is stingy with those who are stingy with Him.”

“You will know who is your guru when God is satisfied with your sincerity.”

“When doing the Recharging Exercises, invoke a reverential feeling.  God Himself has given these exercises to Guruji.  You are to be embraced by God as Christ Energy.”

“Maya will give you all sorts of things to rob you of better things.”

“Anything which strengthens your mind is your friend; anything that weakens your mind is your enemy.”

“You have to learn to immediately counteract any negative thought.  It’s an unseen warfare!”

“Avoid at all times to find yourself in situations where there is violence or riots so you don’t involve yourself in mass karma.  Especially TV revives those bad trends in us.”

“God will help you much more if you willingly discipline yourself.  Otherwise He will use the 2-by-4!”

“Stay away from all horror movies because you may attune yourself to that level.”

“Remember the Bushido code: Complaints are for the weak!”
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 11, 2018 06:51 pm »

Steve, I'm sure that, i given more occasions, I would have enjoyed the company of the redoubtable Bro. Turyiananda. I've read about him and read your recounts and he sure was a formidable figure. Also, I understand he took up very seriously the role of guardian of Lake Shrine, which probably avoided the possible degradation of a spiritual place into a public leisure place like many others.

It's interesting the episode about Erwin Rommel. It must have the German 'Iron Cross', since he was not Gestapo, rather Panzer division (tanks). Rommel was an incredible warrior. during the 1st world war he was a lietenant and led a small company very far into the Italian enemy lines, taking prisoners 9000 Italians. As a  general under Hitler, he nearly conquered all northern Africa, and was eventually defeated only because Hitler privileged the sending of fuel and supplies to the Russian front. his moniker was 'the desert fox'.
He was probably the most legendary of the military commanders in the 2nd WW. Apparently he did not denounce to Hitler the conspiracy which resulted in the failed assassination of the Germand Fuhrer, and so, since he was so popular, hitler proposed to him that, if he would have committed suicide, he would have saved his family.








My grandfather was an officer in the french army an fighted agaisnt Rommel in North Africa. He met him too in that context.
He had the highest possible esteem for this general : smartest and more aristocratic man he ever met.
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These are helpful quotes, thank you  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 13, 2018 10:54 am »

These are helpful quotes, thank you  Smiley

I especially try to keep this one in mind;

“The Lord is stingy with those who are stingy with Him.”



My grandfather was an officer in the french army an fighted agaisnt Rommel in North Africa. He met him too in that context.
He had the highest possible esteem for this general : smartest and more aristocratic man he ever met.

Komyo sometimes people are placed in our lives to remind us there are often things we do not want to do but we must. There are days I do not feel like meditating or energizing but without some discipline on the spiritual path there can be no progress. Sometimes we have to think of ourselves as soul soldiers. If we cannot endure the discipline of the Gurus we may find ourselves again faced by the discipline of the world and its leaders.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 25, 2019 05:16 am »

Quotes from Brother Turyananda;

Bro. Turiyananda
TURIYANANDA SAYINGS ~~ (from an SRF Devotee newsletter)

In loving memory, here are a few snippets of Br. Turiyananda’s sayings as [an SRF devotee] has written them down. Of course, for a total multimedia experience you have to add, in your mind, Brother’s heavy accent!

 “Our behavior during the day makes our meditation at night.”

“Drop it, and you have to drop it fast!”

“Lord, I would like this very much, but please don’t give it to me!”

“TV re-energizes the bad samskaras of sex and violence. If you take regular baths in low vibrations, you cannot ascend higher.”

“Thoughts have the power of materialization.  Therefore you have to change your process of thought.  There is no other way!”

“Stop worrying about the future of the world.  Surrender your life to God.”

“All my life I have taken care of this body and of this mind, and when I die I discover I am not this body and this mind, and all my life I have taken care of somebody else.”

“You have to be honest and say, Lord, I may have this question but I know I don’t understand the answer.”

Brother liked to quote St. Bernadette Soubirou: “For those who believe, nothing needs to be explained; for those who don’t believe, nothing can be explained.”

“Lord, if You forgive me the little jokes that I played on You, I will forgive you the big one You played on me!”

“If you want non-violence, the first thing you have to do is turn off television.”

“Don’t give too much time to the world.  Let the dead bury the dead, as Christ said. Anyone who does not at least spend one hour daily in meditation, is as good as dead.”

“The Lord is stingy with those who are stingy with Him.”

“You will know who is your guru when God is satisfied with your sincerity.”

“When doing the Recharging Exercises, invoke a reverential feeling.  God Himself has given these exercises to Guruji.  You are to be embraced by God as Christ Energy.”

“Maya will give you all sorts of things to rob you of better things.”

“Anything which strengthens your mind is your friend; anything that weakens your mind is your enemy.”

“You have to learn to immediately counteract any negative thought.  It’s an unseen warfare!”

“Avoid at all times to find yourself in situations where there is violence or riots so you don’t involve yourself in mass karma.  Especially TV revives those bad trends in us.”

“God will help you much more if you willingly discipline yourself.  Otherwise He will use the 2-by-4!”

“Stay away from all horror movies because you may attune yourself to that level.”

“Remember the Bushido code: Complaints are for the weak!”

https://yoganandasite.wordpress.com/2016/05/09/beloved-bro-turiyananda-in-memoriam-and-personal-sayings/
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 25, 2019 05:26 am »

https://yoganandasite.wordpress.com/2017/11/25/the-mind-techniques-criticism-quotes-of-bro-turiyananda/
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