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« on: Nov 11, 2015 05:29 am »

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/trump-carson-rubio-dont-raise-the-minimum-wage-023432384.html

Once again we see the Republicans trying to create class warfare. Tell me who can live on $7.25 an hour? That is less than 50 dollars a day. Three hundred dollars a week working full time. My God half of your monthly wages goes to rent. Try to find money for food after that. Good luck with any entertainment. Yet the wealthy continue to get richer and the poor poorer while the midlle class diminishes.
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« Reply #1 on: Nov 11, 2015 07:23 pm »

You can't live on 7.25 an hour. After taxes you might get 1000 in your pocket each month. You could rent a room for 400 maybe, and if you worked in a restaurant for many years like I did, you could eat there too. I remember counting each penny, and I mean, each penny. But for most people who are not creative, resourceful, productive, and relentless, yes it's not enough.

But will upping to 15 then solve all the problems? Will the lazy then become un-lazy? Sure there are exceptions, some people just cannot do it. But then, how do you make it fair for everyone based on there abilities?
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 11, 2015 11:07 pm »

OTOH, if you don't want to work for minimum wage, then up your skills. Most small businesses are not about being rich, it's about surviving in this economy. If the wage goes up, the small business will either have to drop workers, which causes even more unemployment, or increase cost of goods, which then cycles back to the wage not being enough buy things again.
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 12, 2015 01:50 am »

OTOH, if you don't want to work for minimum wage, then up your skills. Most small businesses are not about being rich, it's about surviving in this economy. If the wage goes up, the small business will either have to drop workers, which causes even more unemployment, or increase cost of goods, which then cycles back to the wage not being enough buy things again.

I think it quite wonderful that people have different views then my own. Life would b very boring indeed if every one made the same jokes as I !

Someday though... the services of those who serve us will be valued. We will not think of the services of for instance Donald Trump to be so important as to warrant his wealth at over 8 billion dollars. We may even see that someone who provided services for us at a local restaurant to be more important. Perhaps they said a kind word perhaps they took time to see our food was well prepared and they did not own a casino  but they owned a kind heart and service towards others that should at least warrant their living a life free from financial stress.

Yet as it is we reward those who do not even have a clue as to what service really is. Many are selfish and have no idea about the needs of others. Such is the current version  of compassion for services rendered. But some of us will look at life saying ; 'this is the way life is... it is not fair.' But others will look at life and see that there are many  improvements to be made both socially and in ourselves.

Such is the attitude I have for being fair to others for the service they render and recognizing that many live off the labor and service that others provide with little appreciation for their labor and service. This includes paying for services rendered and not making a whole class of people a slave labor force for a small elite population that owns over 90 per cent of the wealth of our nation. There is something very wrong with the picture when someone is valued for his labors at over 8 billion dollars and he wants many of his employees to work at $7.50 an hour.
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 12, 2015 08:37 pm »

If you want what someone else has you have to be willing to work for it like they did. (heard that somewhere)

There will always be compassionate people out there who appreciate and sort of feel sorry for the ones who are going thru their karma.

I worked in low paying jobs for years and none of that helped. I had to help myself. Isn't that what PY says? Help yourself, realize The Self. Work on the self. That is what should be taught.

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« Reply #5 on: Nov 12, 2015 10:31 pm »

If you want what someone else has you have to be willing to work for it like they did. (heard that somewhere)

There will always be compassionate people out there who appreciate and sort of feel sorry for the ones who are going thru their karma.

I worked in low paying jobs for years and none of that helped. I had to help myself. Isn't that what PY says? Help yourself, realize The Self. Work on the self. That is what should be taught.

There are various times in history that governments and people in charge have been overthrown this happened in the United States of America. Many people felt as though the English were taking what they did not deserve  nor worked for. Similarly in this country as well many people feel as though it is the same at this time in history. Many people collect money and wealth they do not deserve. It will be their karma to loose what they have 'stolen' or did not get fairly from those they took from. These people are the real robbers who should be in prison. We can alleviate some of their bad karma and stop enabling them to rob the pockets of the working class and those willing to work.

We can vote for candidates that support our efforts. Candidates  that recognize like Moses did... there is a time to say enough is enough. We have worked for what we got but still got pissed on. We are also tired of hearing them say let them eat cake ...as in France the people dealt with that answer from Marie Antoinette. It  caused the French Revolution. She was told that her subjects had no bread.

Paramahansa Yogananda fostered a view that we should help one another. When we see others working or trying to find work and still having problems making ends meet....we should find ways to help them. That is what I have done in my life. I have helped those in need who are making an effort. I did not preach to them to work harder for scraps thrown out to to them by the idle welfare rich.
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« Reply #6 on: Nov 12, 2015 11:09 pm »

There are various times in history that governments and people in charge have been overthrown this happened in the United States of America. Many people felt as though the English were taking what they did not deserve  nor worked for. Similarly in this country as well many people feel as though it is the same at this time in history. Many people collect money and wealth they do not deserve. It will be their karma to loose what they have 'stolen' or did not get fairly from those they took from. These people are the real robbers who should be in prison. We can alleviate some of their bad karma and stop enabling them to rob the pockets of the working class and those willing to work.

This IMO will not change on this planet. And it may well be that it is supposed to be that way. The better existence is certainly not here.

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We can vote for candidates that support our efforts. Candidates  that recognize like Moses did... there is a time to say enough is enough. We have worked for what we got but still got pissed on. We are also tired of hearing them say let them eat cake ...as in Spain the people dealt with that answer from Marie Antoinette. It  caused the French Revolution.

From what I've seen in my lifetime here, what we're talking about here, will not be addressed the way it should be, no matter who ends up in any office. You must work on yourself, you cannot count on the government to help you. You must also help others if you can, and try to get them out of whatever pit they're in. That's not easy.


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Paramahansa Yogananda fostered a view that we should help one another. When we see others working or trying to find work and still having problems making ends meet....we should find ways to help them. That is what I have done in my life. I have helped those in need who are making an effort. I did not preach to them to work harder for scraps thrown out to to them by the idle welfare rich.

But he also said work on yourself. Sure help others too. It's BOTH. And we also help those in need at times, but at the same time someone has to get them to understand honesty, respect, hard work and accountability.





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« Reply #7 on: Nov 12, 2015 11:16 pm »

Yes but it is also time to recognize that all those low paying jobs u had Jeff.....It was all not just u and your karma. U are part of mass karma and u might have made effort that was not payed off because u were involved with many selfish people who took the fruits of your labor. We must recognize we are also part of mass karma.

There r people who recognize these inequalities. Bernie and Hillary do. At least they will not give more tax breaks to the rich which is what happens whenever the Republicans get in office. We as spiritual beings r here to help in this low age but often we get pulled into this mass karma also and yes we may free ourselves but must never forget that others have helped us and we use them as an example to free others in any way they may need it.
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« Reply #8 on: Nov 12, 2015 11:30 pm »

Yes but it is also time to recognize that all those low paying jobs u had Jeff.....It was all not just u and your karma. U are part of mass karma and u might have made effort that was not payed off because u were involved with many selfish people who took the fruits of your labor. We must recognize we are also part of mass karma.

There r people who recognize these inequalities. Bernie and Hillary do. At least they will not give more tax breaks to the rich which is what happens whenever the Republicans get in office. We as spiritual beings r here to help in this low age but often we get pulled into this mass karma also and yes we may free ourselves but must never forget that others have helped us and we use them as an example to free others in any way they may need it.

You know, I can't help but feel that there is this underlying political agenda. Bernie, Hilary, Trump, Carson, there is not one person in that game show that I think can do anything about it. The mass karma at hand is the huge group of people getting sucked into this hollywood illusion that some magical earthbound person can resolve all these issues. I will never fall for it.


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« Reply #9 on: Nov 13, 2015 12:20 am »

Either will i Jeff. Sometimes we just have to appreciate the little changes in life and not expect so much. I wonder have i looked/done your chart? I don't see it here on the portal.
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Yes but it is also time to recognize that all those low paying jobs u had Jeff.....It was all not just u and your karma. U are part of mass karma and u might have made effort that was not payed off because u were involved with many selfish people who took the fruits of your labor. We must recognize we are also part of mass karma.

There r people who recognize these inequalities. Bernie and Hillary do. At least they will not give more tax breaks to the rich which is what happens whenever the Republicans get in office. We as spiritual beings r here to help in this low age but often we get pulled into this mass karma also and yes we may free ourselves but must never forget that others have helped us and we use them as an example to free others in any way they may need it.

You know, I can't help but feel that there is this underlying political agenda. Bernie, Hilary, Trump, Carson, there is not one person in that game show that I think can do anything about it. The mass karma at hand is the huge group of people getting sucked into this hollywood illusion that some magical earthbound person can resolve all these issues. I will never fall for it.

But you my dear. You could do something about it. I would like to know how your inner motor operates. I'very
much have nothin to do . It's up to you.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 13, 2015 11:14 am »

If you want what someone else has you have to be willing to work for it like they did. (heard that somewhere)

There will always be compassionate people out there who appreciate and sort of feel sorry for the ones who are going thru their karma.

I worked in low paying jobs for years and none of that helped. I had to help myself. Isn't that what PY says? Help yourself, realize The Self. Work on the self. That is what should be taught.

"Socialism, consisting of evolved individuals, will prevail in the end. But as long as people are not highly evolved, individualism will keep coming to the surface. Individualism only exists for the ushering in of spiritual socialism in which evolved souls will live for the greatest good of the greatest number."

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You can't live on 7.25 an hour. After taxes you might get 1000 in your pocket each month. You could rent a room for 400 maybe, and if you worked in a restaurant for many years like I did, you could eat there too. I remember counting each penny, and I mean, each penny. But for most people who are not creative, resourceful, productive, and relentless, yes it's not enough.

But will upping to 15 then solve all the problems? Will the lazy then become un-lazy? Sure there are exceptions, some people just cannot do it. But then, how do you make it fair for everyone based on there abilities?

The whole concept of work. It is really worthless. If you saw the waste I see in dumpsters you would think that there is a class of people who like to throw away what is useful. I make a living at eating what others waste. They do not work - if they did they would respect what is considered trash. But they don't. So they have created me. Someone who has no reason to work since there is so much waste by others. So you see I am 'rescourceful, productive and relentless'.Most of all - unlike others who work for nothing I have time to meditate because I do not work for others who leave me with scraps and the rest for themselves. I eat their waste and I'm free of people taking advantage of me and getting rich off my service.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 16, 2015 08:22 pm »

I wonder have i looked/done your chart? I don't see it here on the portal.

No you haven't. The thing about that is, well right at the moment anyways, is let's say you tell me I am currently beginning a phase of inner transformation, or something like that. That seed will be planted in my mind. And thru the power of thought it may well manifest.

I mean PY says things like that a lot. For example, if you do Kriya for a period of time, you will start to experience this or that.

While it is true, the mere fact that he has planted that thought in your brain, may well be the primary reason why these things he talks about *do* manifest, while maybe the actual practice is secondary to your seed of thought which to me is more powerful.




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« Reply #14 on: Nov 16, 2015 08:26 pm »

But you my dear. You could do something about it. I would like to know how your inner motor operates. I'very
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I don't know if I or anyone can do anything about it.
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