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« on: Apr 14, 2016 02:37 am »

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« Reply #1 on: Apr 14, 2016 09:58 pm »

That's a tough one.

If a member of ISIS kidnapped your daughter and you knew the only way to find out her location would be to torture the kidnapper, would you do it?
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 17, 2016 12:05 pm »

That's a tough one.

If a member of ISIS kidnapped your daughter and you knew the only way to find out her location would be to torture the kidnapper, would you do it?

i have no daughter and would not have one in this present world we live in.
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 18, 2016 01:46 am »

i have no daughter and would not have one in this present world we live in.

OK substitute daughter for one of your dear friends.
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« Reply #4 on: Apr 18, 2016 01:53 am »

i have no daughter and would not have one in this present world we live in.

OK substitute daughter for one of your dear friends.

Sorry the issue is larger. If we start making exceptions then torture will be the norm. Other countries will use it just because we have.
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 18, 2016 01:55 am »

Sorry the issue is larger. If we start making exceptions then torture will be the norm. Other countries will use it just because we have.

Didnt answer the question.
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 18, 2016 03:07 am »

Sorry the issue is larger. If we start making exceptions then torture will be the norm. Other countries will use it just because we have.

Didnt answer the question.

Answer this and i will answer your question. If a foreign government tortures your daughter because the U.S. tortures people would u vote for candidates that promote torture?  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: Apr 18, 2016 03:36 am »

Answer this and i will answer your question. If a foreign government tortures your daughter because the U.S. tortures people would u vote for candidates that promote torture?  Wink

No, but you forget I dont vote. My point is you can't always paint a picture using such a broad stroke.
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 18, 2016 03:38 am »

Answer this and i will answer your question. If a foreign government tortures your daughter because the U.S. tortures people would u vote for candidates that promote torture?  Wink

No, but you forget I dont vote. My point is you can't always paint a picture using such a broad stroke.

YOU did not answer my question.   Kiss
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 18, 2016 03:39 am »

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« Reply #10 on: Apr 18, 2016 05:18 am »

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Yes I certainly did.

Yes and i do.  Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: Apr 18, 2016 12:39 pm »

I'm actually in favour of torture as applied in the Guantanamo prison compounds. Those are modern kind of treatments that cannot in my opinion be defined torture, which usually conjures something gory and very painful.

Also the US applied treatments with the presence of medical personnel.

On the other hand, if we want to use the 'torture' term in its wide sense, then being imprisoned in a tiny cell together with other 3 or 5 mates with bad hygiene, 50% probability of contracting hepatitis and almost no medical care is undoubtedly a torture, even though people do not usually regard them as such.

The crux in the terrorists case is to evaluate if applying inhuman treatment really results in a benefit (missed killings) to the endangered society. We don't want torture=we'll have less confessions= we are going to have more bombings and killings of innocent people.

The above equation may not necessarily turn out to be accurate, there may me other ways to get confessions I don't know them though. Sure prevention is better than late remediation.
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