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« on: Dec 08, 2016 03:37 am »

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism_and_religion

"The criticism of religion disillusions man, so that he will think, act, and fashion his reality like a man who has discarded his illusions and regained his senses, so that he will move around himself as his own true Sun. Religion is only the illusory Sun which revolves around man as long as he does not revolve around himself."[3]

Since as yogis we have experiences beyond the senses Karl Marx does not have an understanding of the purpose of our religion and spirituality. So in this sense I would agree with mccoy that Marxism has a materialistic basis. Yet in other theories Marxism has a social basis much like the teachings of Jesus Christ. No where do I see Marx advocating a supression of the masses that we have seen in many communist nations in the last two hundred years. But then again I do not see socialism as the same as communism. Perhaps it would be helpful to have an understanding of communism which is quite different then socialism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism



In a few words, Marxism shows as something apparently sensible and socially useful may degenerate in a monstrous construct (the State is the anthill which rules, people are but ants which must live for the State, there is no GOD, your GOD will be STALIN/MAO TSE TUNG/POLPOT  and so on).

Mccoy isn't what your describing here communism at its worst? No where in Marx's philosophy do I see the idea to make the state and it's leaders into some kind of God. On the contrary I think Karl Marx warned againt this kind of religious fervor that is used to justify the supression of the masses. This can be seen in both capitalistic and communistic systems.

Most likely we see the ideas of Marx being implemented in the Scandinavian countries and to a lesser extent in Europe. In the United States we have quite the opposite; "A monstrous construct (the State is the anthill which rules, people are but ants which must live for the State" as you put it but here we have just such a government today: the state ran by the richest individuals who continue to control all the means of production and promote an illusory system to justify owning over 95 per cent of the wealth by less then one per cent of the people which is what Karl Marx predicted would happen in a capitalistic government we see in the United States. We have elected just such a government this last national election that promotes the supression of the masses and the rulership of a wealthy few with huge tax breaks for the wealthy to perpetuate such a system.

In one case you have communism justifying the use of communism for its implementation in another you have fascism using capitalism and free enterprise as its instruments. Both systems degenerating into socially unacceptable governments. Neither free enterprise or socialism having this as a plan and result. My analysis is this; no system will work smoothly as long as selfishness, egotism and self-centeredness are present.






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