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« on: Dec 14, 2016 02:13 am »

Do you ever wonder, when you think about other people, if they are thinking about you at the same time, or is it possible that you just have more sensitivity and kindness towards others?  Huh? If I really have strong thoughts towards/from someone else i will contact them eventually unless I feel or know they do not want to hear from me.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 14, 2016 10:36 pm »

it is possible in both instances. when i was more in tune and would meditate regularly i've found if someone else and i were thinking of each other i'd also have a ringing in my ear. i remember experiencing the ringing once when my friends came to hang out. as they were pulling onto my street my ear rang- i peeked out the window and was surprised to see them just arriving.
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« Reply #2 on: Dec 15, 2016 10:22 pm »

I have no such problems, that is, I have no ringings nor I wonder if someone else is thinking reciprocically.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 16, 2016 04:49 am »

There is a hat you can wear which will block others thoughts from jumping your head.

https://www.amazon.com/Electro-Deflecto-Unisex-Foil-Size/dp/B01I497JAM/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1481856450&sr=8-19&keywords=tinfoil+hat

I'm not sure how well it works.
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 16, 2016 04:59 am »

Osho said that is why he always wore that beanie hat. To block out all kinds of stupid thoughts. I think he was joking.
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« Reply #5 on: Dec 17, 2016 02:31 pm »

Osho said that is why he always wore that beanie hat. To block out all kinds of stupid thoughts. I think he was joking.

Osho was taunting people most of the time. And most people did not realize that. I admire this peculiarity of him.
He was a master psycologist and manipulator of masses. May be he even believed what he was saying himself, at least in the beginning.
A false prophet but a masterful one indeed.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 17, 2016 03:20 pm »

I don't think of him as a false prophet, but rather as a con-man and, yes, a masterful one. A false prophet would mean that he was presenting himself as a true prophet, but he derided that notion on every occasion. He made fun of all the traditional prophets, calling them crackpots, as well as what he considered their superstitious and uneducated followers. Many think Yogananda is a false-prophet too, as you know. The term isn't terribly meaningful, really, in post-modern days. It assumes there are true prophets and that is a highly dubious notion. You are right about Osho being a joker though - he definitely was. But I find spirituality is itself something very often joke worthy. You laugh to keep from crying, I guess.

Case in point, just watch that movie on Netflix, "Holy Hell". The ballerino guru. Spirituality and guru-disciple...ism often takes on sick and disturbing forms and funny too. It is a power dynamic that is just inviting abusers and abusees to sign up. Perhaps no setup is quite so good, short of outright BDSM, for strange psychologies to coalesce.

Anyway, the real question in my mind is, "was Osho actually anything other than a con man?" We have established the fact of him being a con-man. I don't think that's up for much debate since he himself admitted it and there is ample evidence to support the notion. But IMO, many gurus are con-men, whether they realize it or not. Some, if not all, you could argue always get drunk on their own Kool-aid before serving it to others.

So what should we say? Had Osho attained those states that have been cataloged in the spiritual literature or was he just extremely well-read about them and nothing more? I am not able to say, unfortunately. But I imagine it is a subject which will arouse passions. LOL. Have at it...

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 17, 2016 03:28 pm »

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« Reply #8 on: Dec 18, 2016 10:46 am »

So what should we say? Had Osho attained those states that have been cataloged in the spiritual literature or was he just extremely well-read about them and nothing more? I am not able to say, unfortunately. But I imagine it is a subject which will arouse passions. LOL. Have at it...

I cannot say much since I just read a few of his books. He was a Jnana personality mainly, a wise man, maybe a Rishi in former lives. Maybe he did have some spiritual experience, but he was mainly intellectual and in a peculiarly original way as we have discussed.

My gut feeling is that at the beginning he maybe attained some of those states, then he let himself carried away by his own volcanic intellect and by the huge popularity he enjoyed. As you say, he surfed the wave of success and joked about it and maybe was the first one to be surprised about it. But then he chose not to disappoint his followers and accepted his role of 'Prophet' in a sardonic attitude.

The above is just one hypothesis and probaly only one tiny aspect of such a complex personality.
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