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« on: Dec 27, 2016 07:31 am »



Hello Brock. I know you are interested in this man and what he has to say. I spent time watching this video since the one you gave us was hard for me to hear because it had so much background music.

What interests me about Lilly is that he seems to recognize many different paths or ways to accomplish levels of 'satori'. His first introduction into higher levels of consciousness was initiated by an illness as a child. What I have found from my experiences with other people is that people who have been exposed to such experiences without some meditation and some kind of guides often are very unbalanced psychologically. Lilly mentions himself the need for a guide in the early stages of awareness.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 27, 2016 08:06 am »

Thanks for taking the time to look into him and his work. I encountered him in this video below a few years ago and was fascinated by him. Anyone who wears a Daniel Boone hat and a red jumpsuit is somehow my kinda guy. It is that strange flash of internal recognition that says "aha, here's a fellow soul." But up to now I have not had the opportunity to read any of his books. My sister bought me two this year and I am starting with the one "Simulations of God" as it is the one I have most wanted to read. This is still the best interview with him available online. I might've shown it to you already.

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I think that's probably true about easily becoming psychologically unbalanced without a guide. Some, it seems, become perturbed with or without one. It may depend on the particular individual - his circumstances, conditioning, and so on. There is also an internal guide that we tune into (which is how we recognize the external guides).

Let me know if you've already seen it or if you watch it what you think.

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 27, 2016 09:23 am »

Unbeliefs are unbelievable. I also believe that there are forces out there that help put together our fate in a way that introduces us to higher realities and others who hold a place in our unfoldment and theirs as well. Belief can manifest forms of reality that disbelief will not. That is because with disbelief comes circumscribed and limited versions of levels of consciousness and living conditions. We do not have to leave ourselves open to charlatans and fraud to keep an open mind and a receptive outlook to the sincerity of the aspirations and intentions of others... however misguided and delusional they may be. In all these encounters with Alternity we will find our own views changing and growing. Perhaps finding what we once knew and forgot.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 27, 2016 07:45 pm »

I think most everybody has an obsession of some sort. I believe Oscar Levant says it best, "There's a fine line between genius and insanity. I have erased this line." I see John Lilly in this category. A man with good intent and a true scientist/philosopher. I believe his obsession was his greatest contribution and downfall. There are a few things I am not fond of with his research like the imprisoning of wild dolphins, forcing them LSD and trying to get them to speak English. That seems more torturous to me. The CIA is also interested in sensory deprivation and sensory stimulation as a means of torture/control and once showed interest in Lilly's work. I'm not condemning drug use as a means to achieve knowledge and enlightenment but I'm not in favor of this path after having tried it myself. It takes a mature approach and too often seekers of all ages become overly dependent and end up hurting their bodies physically.

Very unique thoughts have come from this man and he is worth taking a look at. Here's a neat article I found on him early this morning:

Escape from Planet Earth: Psychedelics, religion, and outlaw scientist John C. Lilly

"Most scientists don't include personal stories in their research reports, but for John Lilly, personal experiences and science experiments were the same thing. His ears, eyes, mouth, and nose were calibrated probes. His mind was the unbiased observer, the ideal model for dispassionate inquiry. Knowledge and experience led him to new sets of questions, not firmly held beliefs. But as anyone who has traveled into the psychedelic spaces knows, soon after arrival, one quickly finds out that the scientist's tool kit—language—is much too small and inadequate for the job. The scientist's reaction to the psychedelic experience is a set of questions that sound more like a seeker's. This is the crux of the enigma of John Lilly."
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