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« Reply #30 on: Dec 10, 2017 02:16 am »


As you see these issues are much more then political issues. They are indeed spiritual issues.

"I don't think President Trump has a fear of the Lord, the fear of the wrath of God, which leads one to more humility," Brown told CBS' "60 Minutes" in an interview set to air on Sunday. "This is such a reckless disregard for the truth and for the existential consequences that can be unleashed." Should we take the view then that any spiritual view that is reflected in our national and world interests is hateful?

Governor Brown California

To relegate them to only political hate is to completely miss the point. i suppose you would say Jerry Brown also 'hates' Trump and his wrecking crew. To take any spiritual view about our country or the earth is therefore a response of hate towards Donald Trump. That is what his supporters would like to believe. In fact we feel sorry for the man and his cruel team.


Here you go I found one:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php

They would welcome you and the response would probably be exactly what you're looking for. Why not?


Because politics without spirituality is like rice without curry...tasteless.
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« Reply #31 on: Dec 10, 2017 02:55 am »

Because politics without spirituality is like rice without curry...tasteless.

There are so many rice dishes without curry, specially non-white rice.

Politics mixed with spirituality is hopeless.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php

Really try this place.

You would be able to receive so much more responses and most would probably be right with you. I mean you could post something like trump really bites, and so many would respond. if you're doing this to educate the public thru forums, as you say, then your voice would be heard by so many more. Isn't that what you want? To spread your message? No one hears it here.
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« Reply #32 on: Dec 10, 2017 06:15 am »

Si your welcome to your opinion. I just do not agree with it nor do i believe that our ideas have to be all filed as if in a filing cabinet in different categories and forums as you would have it. But u are quite persistent in your views about whats best for me. Perhaps U would be more successful in your views about what is best for yourself. This forum was created to be more inclusive and less exclusive in design so it has a wider application then for instance a 'Yogananda forum' or a 'political forum'.  Spirituality has had a social, political, personal, sexual, scientific and many other applications that we have found for it here. U could arguably take any one of the headings at this forum and say that they do not fit under spirituality. I am quite happy with the many categories we have had and the contributions each individual has made to different categories over the years. Most likely we would cut out a heading that is not so much used if we were to take one out--not one that daily shows a lot of participation and people watching it. I am not sure why u want to send me to another forum when i am quite happy with the development of this forum.

Spirituality to me is a search for meaning and purpose in life. We have a characteristic as humans that is quite different then all other living forms. That is the characteristic of self-reflection. Often in this unique characteristic we look outside seeing what is reflected in our environment and our social and political landscape as well to see ourselves clearer and what we have come to learn from and reflect about to bring our own spiritual development.

In this process i have met and seen some leaders and politicians with spiritual qualities. Robert Kennedy, Ghandi,
Jerry Brown, Denice Kucinich, Bernie etc. Their lives are exemplary spiritually speaking. However the present leaders are the opposite being evil spiritually. So in my opinion it is far from the truth to say politics does not belong on a spiritual forum. In fact such people have influenced others in very spiritual ways.
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« Reply #33 on: Dec 10, 2017 06:38 pm »

Si your welcome to your opinion. I just do not agree with it nor do i believe that our ideas have to be all filed as if in a filing cabinet in different categories and forums as you would have it. But u are quite persistent in your views about whats best for me. Perhaps U would be more successful in your views about what is best for yourself. This forum was created to be more inclusive and less exclusive in design so it has a wider application then for instance a 'Yogananda forum' or a 'political forum'.  Spirituality has had a social, political, personal, sexual, scientific and many other applications that we have found for it here. U could arguably take any one of the headings at this forum and say that they do not fit under spirituality. I am quite happy with the many categories we have had and the contributions each individual has made to different categories over the years. Most likely we would cut out a heading that is not so much used if we were to take one out--not one that daily shows a lot of participation and people watching it. I am not sure why u want to send me to another forum when i am quite happy with the development of this forum.

Spirituality to me is a search for meaning and purpose in life. We have a characteristic as humans that is quite different then all other living forms. That is the characteristic of self-reflection. Often in this unique characteristic we look outside seeing what is reflected in our environment and our social and political landscape as well to see ourselves clearer and what we have come to learn from and reflect about to bring our own spiritual development.

In this process i have met and seen some leaders and politicians with spiritual qualities. Robert Kennedy, Ghandi,
Jerry Brown, Denice Kucinich, Bernie etc. Their lives are exemplary spiritually speaking. However the present leaders are the opposite being evil spiritually. So in my opinion it is far from the truth to say politics does not belong on a spiritual forum. In fact such people have influenced others in very spiritual ways.

Why not try it? Are you afraid there will be too many responses opposed to your views such as when you posted on the other 2 PY forums? When here no one stops in except for 2 people?

If you're doing this to educate the public thru your political posts, as you say, then your voice would be heard by so many more. Isn't that what you want? To make sure trump is cast down? You'll have much better chance of routing people than here.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php


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« Reply #34 on: Dec 12, 2017 01:08 am »

Macron Moves to 'Make Our Planet Great Again'

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« Reply #35 on: Dec 12, 2017 02:34 am »

Breaking News from Newsmax.com

 
The Environmental Protection Agency under President Donald Trump has taken a more lenient approach in enforcing federal pollution laws than the two previous administrations, according to a report in the New York Times.

The agency in nine months has started fewer cases than the Obama and Bush administration in that same time span, sought less civil penalties from polluters and has cut back on enforcing companies to retrofit their factories to cut pollution.
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Breaking News from Newsmax.com

 
The Environmental Protection Agency under President Donald Trump has taken a more lenient approach in enforcing federal pollution laws than the two previous administrations, according to a report in the New York Times.

The agency in nine months has started fewer cases than the Obama and Bush administration in that same time span, sought less civil penalties from polluters and has cut back on enforcing companies to retrofit their factories to cut pollution.

One sided news report, posted by a very stubborn so-called spiritual man that does not have all the facts. I do not believe that anyone who continues to post trump hate like this is spiritual at all.

Oh we can take any word we want like "political" and say it is spiritual. We can take the word crap and make it spiritual if we twist our thinking can't we?

This is all that is happening. "I am trying to help others so they don't fall into evil, so I'm going to post trump hate and they will now be aware and saved."

I have been over this logic now with about 50 or so people, and none of them would agree with this. Oh but I know, those 50 people all all assholes so what do they know?

Sheesh.


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« Reply #37 on: Dec 26, 2017 01:37 pm »

“We will continue to match the Kim regime’s choice of aggressive action with actions of international sanctions,” said Nikki Haley, the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. The regime in Pyongyang is the “most tragic example of evil in the modern world,” she added.

Nikki Haley, a henchwoman for Trumps wicked team is much mistaken. The very survival of civilization is the cost of having the likes of Trump and his wrecking crew destroying our earth. Nikki Haley is simply a pawn of an evil empire since Trump and his royalty moved in the white house. A tragic example of evil without equal.
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« Reply #38 on: Dec 30, 2017 06:34 pm »


'This year we've seen an unprecedented attack on our environment from the Trump administration and their Dirty Fuel allies. They've recommended shrinking national monuments, stripped protections for our air and water, proposed to repeal and replace the Clean Power Plan.'
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« Reply #39 on: Dec 30, 2017 09:06 pm »

Trump's been in office for less than a year. Here are just a few of the widespread attacks his administration have made on the environment:

Approved Keystone XL.
Announced his intention to withdraw from the Paris climate accord.
Repealed a ban on offshore oil and gas drilling in the Atlantic and Arctic oceans.
Moved to open massive swaths of priceless public lands to fracking and drilling.
And that's just a small number of things he's done. We're witnessing the greatest assault ever on our environment

From the Sierra Club
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« Reply #40 on: Dec 30, 2017 09:17 pm »

Trump Rolls Back Offshore Safety Rules Born From BP Oil Spill
https://www.yahoo.com/newsroom/vibes/politics/v-dbb2094c-7d9a-37c0-96b9-7f844af62e78_c-17c5d32b-03c9-312a-ae2f-d2afd5f84f9a_a-17c5d32b-03c9-312a-ae2f-d2afd5f84f9a
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