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« Reply #30 on: Dec 10, 2018 05:16 pm »

Sometimes I find the saki indirectly speaking to things I am questioning or going through in that time.
I wonder what the sufis advice would be about harmonizing with others when there is little or no harmony existing around them or in the powers that be? I am referring to being led by dictatorial sociopaths like Hitler or Stalin. I suppose it would be right to reestablish harmony; a scenario that confronts us in the U.S. today. However even families experience periods of dischord or relationships in which it seem like it is unlikely to find harmony with those around us. Should we have to struggle with others to be in harmony with our own higher aspirations or perhaps leave if it possible to find more harmious options?

Commentary by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Ghazali has said in his Alchemy of Happiness that the spiritual path is like shooting an arrow into the dark. ... Whoever sets out on this path is therefore in constant warfare. He has to encounter opposition from his relatives, from his friends and acquaintances; he gets into trouble with those who misunderstand his aims; they misuse him; they misjudge him and blame him for doing things and thinking in a manner which they believe to be unjustified.

'Resist not evil', the scripture says. When there is resistance to evil of the other person, do not become angry with him. When you foster the same emotion, you add to his, and you increase the same fire in yourself. It is like infecting yourself with a contagious disease instead of curing it. Anger and bitterness will die out in time.

There was a small group of people in London who were working along spiritual lines. They felt a sort of rivalry against my little society, and they began to try to do us harm by telling stories against us and by setting others against us. My helpers came to tell me how we were being damaged in this way and asked if they should not do something to stop this. But I answered, 'the best way to treat this is with indifference. Take no notice.'

And when they insisted that these doings would do us great harm I said, 'Not at all. The only harm it could do would be if we allowed this harm to enter our circle. Let them do as they like and let us go on doing what we are doing!' As the years went by they never heard us say a word against them; on the contrary, we welcomed them, we helped them, we served them in whatever way we could. In time this resistance completely vanished. We have been going forward, and they still stand where they were. Just a little indifference was enough!

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XII/XII_I_16.htm

As the rose blooms amidst thorns, so great souls shine out through all opposition.

Bowl of Saki, December 10, by Hazrat Inayat Khan
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« Reply #31 on: Dec 14, 2018 12:10 am »

Our virtues are made of love, and our sins are caused by lack of it. Love turns sins into virtues, and its lack makes virtues meaningless. Christ said when a woman was brought before Him accused of sin, 'Her sins are forgiven, for she loved much.' Heaven is made so beautiful with love, and life becomes a hell through the lack of it. Love in reality creates harmony in one's life on earth and peace in heaven.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/V/V_22.htm

Love produces harmony and harmony creates beauty. Therefore the chief motto in life is 'Love, harmony and beauty'. Love, in all things and beings, the beloved God, in harmony with all in the right understanding, and beautify your life by observing the beauty within and without. By love, harmony and beauty you must turn the whole of life into a single vision of divine glory.

   ~~~ "Vol II, Mysticism of Music, Sound and Word, Aphorisms ", by Hazrat Inayat Khan


How the words 'love,' 'harmony,' and 'beauty' delight the heart of everyone who hears them! One may wonder what it can be in these words that is able to exert such a natural power upon the human soul. The answer is that if there is anything in life which appeals to the human soul, it is love and beauty. If one asks, 'And what besides those?' then the answer is, 'There is nothing else.' Why is this? Because they are the very nature of life. Love is the nature of life, beauty is the outcome of life, harmony is the means by which life accomplishes its purpose, and the lack of it results in destruction.

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« Reply #32 on: Dec 16, 2018 03:58 pm »

We are told that the first expression of meditation is peace, following peace is bliss and even more sublime is love. i would say one of the most difficult challenges of this life is to express love when there are so many currents really running contrary to such expression all around us. Quite often we find people around us in our lives who talk about love and treating others fairly and kind or even engage in spiritual practices that make these qualities their ideal yet many of their reactions and responses to other world and close associates do not reflect love. As we see this taking place we are left with the resulting responsibility of enabling them in their unkind and often evil actions or finding ways to stop their evil actions or where possible to transform them with our own love. It is often difficult to know how to express love since the expression of love or responding  with love can be misinterpreted so easily. However, spineless inaction can also result in harm to others.

It is certainly helpful to introspect about our personal expression towards others and circumstances despite the current trends we find around us and in society as an whole. It is also seems important to me to extricate ourselves from unloving people and circumstances and people and circumstances when possible to feel our own loving space to offer to those around us and the world at large.
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« Reply #33 on: Dec 23, 2018 05:10 pm »

With Faith in God, in keeping God ever present- nothing is impossible.
This is the attitude required when facing opposition, where intentions of good will and Love are misinterpreted. Contradictions will always be, but a Love that shines so bright can transcend and endure the test of time.
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« Reply #34 on: Jan 02, 2019 04:36 am »

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As water in a fountain flows as one stream, but falls in many drops divided by time and space, so are the revelations of the one stream of truth.

Bowl of Saki, January 1, by Hazrat Inayat Khan


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In a fountain there is a big stream which flows up and then breaks into many drops. The stream is like the divine will, and the different drops like the wills in us. One drop goes higher, another lower, one falls to the left, another to the right, one goes north, another south. But the source of all this activity is one; it is one thing that turns into so many, scattering in all directions. Thus from unity there has come variety.

   from  https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/VII/VII_5.htm
i see these words and think of each of us, separate and intertwined-
when one is feeling low and the other high, when one is treading a different path, experiencing different emotions from another in any given moment, it's important to remember that this persons' thoughts and feelings are valid. we may be in complete contrast to our closest friend, that doesnt make their feelings or their actions greater or lesser, we are like these individual drops broken up from the one steady stream, wherever we fall, we should respect our relationships as best we can remembering the validity the various directions life pulls us... pray and have faith God is leading you to your fullest potential and blessing our social circles and familial ties. surrender the need for control, give it to god and steady your will to be centered on love.
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« Reply #35 on: Feb 10, 2019 05:41 am »

LOVE

The greatest principle of Sufism is: 'Ishq Allah Mabud Allah'. (God is love, lover, and beloved). [literally: God is Love, God is Beloved]

When Ahad, the only Being, became conscious of his Wahdat, only existence, through His own consciousness, then His predisposition of love made Him project Himself to establish His dual aspect, that He might be able to love someone. This made God the lover, and manifestation the beloved; the next inversion makes manifestation the lover, and God the beloved. This force of love has been working through several evolutions and involutions, which end in man who is the ultimate aim of God. The dual aspect of God is significant in Zat and Sifat, in spirit and matter, and in the mineral, vegetable, animal, and human kingdoms, wherein the two sexes, male and female, are clearly represented. The dual aspect of God is symbolized by each form of this wonderful world. This whole universe, internally and externally, is governed by the force of love, which is sometimes the cause and sometimes the effect. The producer and the product are one, and that One is nothing but love.

    A church, a temple or a Kaba stone,
    Quran or Bible or a martyr's bone,
    All these and more my heart can tolerate,
    Since my religion now is Love alone.

Abul Ala al-Maari

Sufis take the course of love and devotion to accomplish their highest aim, because it is love which has brought man from the world of unity to the world of variety, and the same force can take him back again to the world of unity from that of variety.

    Love is the reduction of the universe to the single being,
    and the expansion of a single being, even to God

Balzac

Love is that state of mind in which the consciousness of the lover is merged in that of the object of his love; it produces in the lover all the attributes of humanity, such as resignation, renunciation, humility, kindness, contentment, patience, virtue, calmness, gentleness, charity, faithfulness, bravery, by which the devotee becomes harmonized with the Absolute. As one of God's beloved, a path is opened for his heavenly journey: at the end he arrives at oneness with God, and his whole individuality is dissolved in the ocean of eternal bliss where even the conception of God and man disappears.

    Although love is a sweet madness,
    Yet all infirmities it heals.
    Saints and sages have passed through it,
    Love both to God and man appeals.

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« Reply #36 on: Apr 18, 2019 06:15 am »

It is the surface of the sea that makes waves and roaring breakers; the depth is silent.

     Bowl of Saki, April 17, by Hazrat Inayat Khan

Inayat Khan suggest that peace and inspiration comes from silence. He says whatever the name of ones religion, philosophy or beliefs that it all translates to one thing- the constant longing of the soul of the human being. After having gone through the many ups and downs of life, that one longing the soul wishes to attain is peace- a place of calm which all inspiration comes from. Is it not true, that there is something more, as the soul reaches inward in meditation? And what might it be when Love speaks to us as we dig deep within?

He goes on to say,

To attain peace, what one has to do is to seek that rhythm which is in the depth of our being. It is just like the sea: the surface of the sea is ever moving; the depth of the sea is still. And so it is with our life.

Which I am understanding, that our life will always have a pull to it but still there is more and too often man identifies with the activity of his outer life forgetting the treasure that is the depth of his being...

As the activity of our life is unavoidable it's a good practice to remind oneself regularly that we are more then our thoughts, meditate and still more- place Faith in Love and Calm.
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« Reply #37 on: Jul 19, 2019 06:20 am »

Here we see that your interest in understanding Life is religion. Whether we are materially inclined or spiritually, man has 4 basic desires which develop over time.

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A person may say, 'I do not even believe in such a thing as a soul, since there is no evidence of such a thing. I do not believe in a hereafter. I do not believe in anything spiritual or higher, only in what I see or enjoy in this worldly life.' But what then? One could answer, 'You believe at least in being happy. You believe in happiness being something worth attaining in life. You also believe in living. You do not wish to die. Not only do you believe in these two things, but you believe in being left alone when you are tired, in being left in peace and having rest. You believe in understanding things you cannot yet understand.' So he believes in four things. He may not believe in inspiration, revelation, or some higher spirit coming and instructing him, yet he believes in trying to understand things that puzzle him; in seeking to remove that cloud of confusion which veils the light that would guide him to the understanding of those very things, which at present confuse him. So there is a longing in him to find out about something that he does not know.

In every person, therefore, whether spiritual or material, whatever his outlook, there are these four inclinations or desires: to live, to save his life even to the extent of risking it in order to defend himself against being killed; to be happy, enjoying the theatre, music, dancing, singing, a game, sport, something that pleases; a desire to know, and a desire to have peace, to rest, to be left alone. Whether he believes in God, in spirit, in heaven, in a scripture, in a hereafter, or not, he certainly believes in these four things. They develop gradually. As one studies more and more the way to acquire these things, that study itself becomes a form of religion, and attainment to the root of the four things is spiritual perfection. The difference is only that one takes a religious path, another the path of wisdom, another the path of devotion, and another the path of the form or ceremonial of worship. Whichever way it be, the constant pursuit of these four things brings the attainment of the same goal in the end, the goal for every soul. Some paths lead there sooner than others, that is all.
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« Reply #38 on: Sep 11, 2019 08:33 am »

A true worshipper of God sees His presence in all forms, and thus in respecting others he respects God. It may even develop to such an extent that the true worshipper of God, the Omnipresent, walks gently on the earth, bowing in his heart even to every tree and plant, and it is then that the worshipper forms a communion with the Divine Beloved at all times.

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« Reply #39 on: Sep 12, 2019 08:56 pm »

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Forgiveness is a stream of love, which washes away all impurities wherever it flows. By keeping this spring of love, which is in the heart of man, running, man is able to forgive, however great the fault of his fellow man may seem. One who cannot forgive closes his heart. The sign of spirituality is that there is nothing you cannot forgive, there is no fault you cannot forget. Do not think that he who has committed a fault yesterday must do the same today, for life is constantly teaching and it is possible in one moment a sinner may turn into a saint.
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« Reply #40 on: Sep 13, 2019 09:37 am »

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Forgiveness is a stream of love, which washes away all impurities wherever it flows. By keeping this spring of love, which is in the heart of man, running, man is able to forgive, however great the fault of his fellow man may seem. One who cannot forgive closes his heart. The sign of spirituality is that there is nothing you cannot forgive, there is no fault you cannot forget. Do not think that he who has committed a fault yesterday must do the same today, for life is constantly teaching and it is possible in one moment a sinner may turn into a saint.
https://wahiduddin.net/mv2/XIII/XIII_20.htm

Yes I have met people who have made dramatic changes as is quoted here. People can surprise us.
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« Reply #41 on: Sep 13, 2019 09:42 am »

A true worshipper of God sees His presence in all forms, and thus in respecting others he respects God. It may even develop to such an extent that the true worshipper of God, the Omnipresent, walks gently on the earth, bowing in his heart even to every tree and plant, and it is then that the worshipper forms a communion with the Divine Beloved at all times.

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I often do this with little insects around the house - recognize their sacred importance - and let them outdoors to their safety. I also feel more and more gratefulness to the trees for the shade and oxygen they provide for us.
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« Reply #42 on: Sep 13, 2019 11:30 pm »

Thank you Steve, that is a beautiful feeling of gratitude and an admirable expression.

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« Reply #43 on: Sep 13, 2019 11:45 pm »

Not sure what to do about myself though. There seems to be no one more frustrating. We always hear about anger and frustration with others and difficulties getting along. Although it seems like the most aggravating quality I witness is in myself as for example when I think I have done something that I have not done or forgotten something that seems so easy to remember. I know we have to forgive ourselves as well as others but when will we surprise ourselves with our own improvements on our frustrating foils?
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« Reply #44 on: Sep 14, 2019 12:44 am »

We are our own worse enemy. The more absorbed we are in ourselves, the greater the capacity for hell. Know that you are loved deeply, cherished and respected. Through your many incarnations of rise and fall, you are never alone. Some of my inquiries for spiritual progress have gone 'unanswered' but that space has given me time to reflect and propelled me further. Sometimes we need to let go and just reside in the beauty. We might not be able to perceive an answer in the moment but that doesn't mean the answer isn't there. Peace friend.
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