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« on: Dec 10, 2017 02:09 pm »


All views are respected here but some people can apologize for their mistakes. Trump is not such a man. He
smears apologies in the face of those who make mistakes .
A very unspiritual and disgraceful behavior.

There are many who behave this way. For example posting about this kind of stuff on a spiritual forum.

Let's change the name to Political Portal. That way people who come here will know what kind of forum this really is. I'm serious really, I'll do it for you. I mean why parade around with the Spiritual name anymore?

Si your welcome to your opinion. I just do not agree with it nor do i believe that our ideas have to be all filed as if in a filing cabinet in different categories and forums as you would have it. But u are quite persistent in your views about whats best for me. Perhaps U would be more successful in your views about what is best for yourself. This forum was created to be more inclusive and less exclusive in design so it has a wider application then for instance a 'Yogananda forum' or a 'political forum'.  Spirituality has had a social, political, personal, sexual, scientific and many other applications that we have found for it here. U could arguably take any one of the headings at this forum and say that they do not fit under spirituality. I am quite happy with the many categories we have had and the contributions each individual has made to different categories over the years. Most likely we would cut out a heading that is not so much used if we were to take one out--not one that daily shows a lot of participation and people watching it. I am not sure why u want to send me to another forum when i am quite happy with the development of this forum.

Spirituality to me is a search for meaning and purpose in life. We have a characteristic as humans that is quite different then all other living forms. That is the characteristic of self-reflection. Often in this unique characteristic we look outside seeing what is reflected in our environment and our social and political landscape as well to see ourselves clearer and what we have come to learn from and reflect about to bring our own spiritual development.

In this process i have met and seen some leaders and politicians with spiritual qualities. Robert Kennedy, Ghandi,
Jerry Brown, Denice Kucinich, Bernie Sanders etc. Their lives are exemplary spiritually speaking. However the present leaders are the opposite being evil spiritually. So in my opinion it is far from the truth to say politics does not belong on a spiritual forum. In fact such people have influenced others in very spiritual ways. There are also many people who were not politicians who made political decisions in their lives that strongly influenced the political process as well. People like Kimon Kotos, Joan Boaz, David Harris, Dr.Ulrich Rudhi Seibert, Amma and many of the native indians trying to protect mother nature and their lands. Many of these people have influenced my spiritual life thru political action. I think it is great to have political forums. Although this is more then a political forum as you can see by the many topics here there are many forms of spirituality. Jesus and Krishna were two highly evolved souls who influenced the political process quite heavily. In the case of Krishna he even encouraged Arjuna to fight in a war to topple a political figure. In many similar incidents in the Bible God encouraged war in the name of a righteous cause. We are in a similar situation today. I would be willing to fight for the noble cause of getting a very evil man and his henchmen out of office. Krishna told Arjuna it was his duty to fight for righteousness and we find ourselves in a similar situation today.
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« Reply #1 on: Dec 10, 2017 06:45 pm »

Si your welcome to your opinion. I just do not agree with it nor do i believe that our ideas have to be all filed as if in a filing cabinet in different categories and forums as you would have it. But u are quite persistent in your views about whats best for me. Perhaps U would be more successful in your views about what is best for yourself. This forum was created to be more inclusive and less exclusive in design so it has a wider application then for instance a 'Yogananda forum' or a 'political forum'.  Spirituality has had a social, political, personal, sexual, scientific and many other applications that we have found for it here. U could arguably take any one of the headings at this forum and say that they do not fit under spirituality. I am quite happy with the many categories we have had and the contributions each individual has made to different categories over the years. Most likely we would cut out a heading that is not so much used if we were to take one out--not one that daily shows a lot of participation and people watching it. I am not sure why u want to send me to another forum when i am quite happy with the development of this forum.

Spirituality to me is a search for meaning and purpose in life. We have a characteristic as humans that is quite different then all other living forms. That is the characteristic of self-reflection. Often in this unique characteristic we look outside seeing what is reflected in our environment and our social and political landscape as well to see ourselves clearer and what we have come to learn from and reflect about to bring our own spiritual development.

In this process i have met and seen some leaders and politicians with spiritual qualities. Robert Kennedy, Ghandi,
Jerry Brown, Denice Kucinich, Bernie Sanders etc. Their lives are exemplary spiritually speaking. However the present leaders are the opposite being evil spiritually. So in my opinion it is far from the truth to say politics does not belong on a spiritual forum. In fact such people have influenced others in very spiritual ways. There are also many people who were not politicians who made political decisions in their lives that strongly influenced the political process as well. People like Kimon Kotos, Joan Boaz, David Harris, Dr.Ulrich Rudhi Seibert, Amma and many of the native indians trying to protect mother nature and their lands. Many of these people have influenced my spiritual life thru political action. I think it is great to have political forums. Although this is more then a political forum as you can see by the many topics here there are many forms of spirituality. Jesus and Krishna were two highly evolved souls who influenced the political process quite heavily. In the case of Krishna he even encouraged Arjuna to fight in a war to topple a political figure. In many similar incidents in the Bible God encouraged war in the name of a righteous cause. We are in a similar situation today. I would be willing to fight for the noble cause of getting a very evil man and his henchmen out of office. Krishna told Arjuna it was his duty to fight for righteousness and we find ourselves in a similar situation today.

Supposedly Kennedy had mob ties, Ghandi allegedly had sexual issues with younger girls, etc.,

Besides, naming people that could be spiritual has nothing to do with posting trump hate articles and spouting about henchman and evil.

2 different things.

Not related.

For a test, maybe we should create an account over there, copy/paste the trump shows, and monitor the responses. You might actually love it and this place could become spiritual again.





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« Reply #2 on: Dec 11, 2017 02:11 am »

Back to being critical again hey? You would have made a perfect prosecuting attorney or interrogator for the inquisition.
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 11, 2017 02:14 am »

Back to being critical again hey? You would have made a perfect prosecuting attorney or interrogator for the inquisition.

OK I give, what part of that post is "being critical"?

Did you try that link?
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« Reply #4 on: Dec 11, 2017 03:59 am »

Si your welcome to your opinion. I just do not agree with it nor do i believe that our ideas have to be all filed as if in a filing cabinet in different categories and forums as you would have it. But u are quite persistent in your views about whats best for me. Perhaps U would be more successful in your views about what is best for yourself. This forum was created to be more inclusive and less exclusive in design so it has a wider application then for instance a 'Yogananda forum' or a 'political forum'.  Spirituality has had a social, political, personal, sexual, scientific and many other applications that we have found for it here. U could arguably take any one of the headings at this forum and say that they do not fit under spirituality. I am quite happy with the many categories we have had and the contributions each individual has made to different categories over the years. Most likely we would cut out a heading that is not so much used if we were to take one out--not one that daily shows a lot of participation and people watching it. I am not sure why u want to send me to another forum when i am quite happy with the development of this forum.

Spirituality to me is a search for meaning and purpose in life. We have a characteristic as humans that is quite different then all other living forms. That is the characteristic of self-reflection. Often in this unique characteristic we look outside seeing what is reflected in our environment and our social and political landscape as well to see ourselves clearer and what we have come to learn from and reflect about to bring our own spiritual development.

In this process i have met and seen some leaders and politicians with spiritual qualities. Robert Kennedy, Ghandi,
Jerry Brown, Denice Kucinich, Bernie Sanders etc. Their lives are exemplary spiritually speaking. However the present leaders are the opposite being evil spiritually. So in my opinion it is far from the truth to say politics does not belong on a spiritual forum. In fact such people have influenced others in very spiritual ways. There are also many people who were not politicians who made political decisions in their lives that strongly influenced the political process as well. People like Kimon Kotos, Joan Boaz, David Harris, Dr.Ulrich Rudhi Seibert, Amma and many of the native indians trying to protect mother nature and their lands. Many of these people have influenced my spiritual life thru political action. I think it is great to have political forums. Although this is more then a political forum as you can see by the many topics here there are many forms of spirituality. Jesus and Krishna were two highly evolved souls who influenced the political process quite heavily. In the case of Krishna he even encouraged Arjuna to fight in a war to topple a political figure. In many similar incidents in the Bible God encouraged war in the name of a righteous cause. We are in a similar situation today. I would be willing to fight for the noble cause of getting a very evil man and his henchmen out of office. Krishna told Arjuna it was his duty to fight for righteousness and we find ourselves in a similar situation today.

Supposedly Kennedy had mob ties, Ghandi allegedly had sexual issues with younger girls, etc.,

Besides, naming people that could be spiritual has nothing to do with posting trump hate articles and spouting about henchman and evil.

2 different things.

Not related.

For a test, maybe we should create an account over there, copy/paste the trump shows, and monitor the responses. You might actually love it and this place could become spiritual again.


Critical of Gandhi and Kennedy?
Robert Kennedy tried to clean up the unions as attourney general. Gandhi freed India. Everything about the post even being critical of the idea it not spiritual enough here for you. Calling my articles hate articles.
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Critical of Gandhi and Kennedy?
Robert Kennedy tried to clean up the unions as attourney general. Gandhi freed India. Everything about the post even being critical of the idea it not spiritual enough here for you. Calling my articles hate articles.

I did not make up those stories. That's not being critical. I just relayed, not added to it, like Ghandi and his sexual stalking is evilllllll. That's being critical.

Hey I do exactly what you do. I hear things, read things. All from the same partial incomplete sources. Just like you.

Oh sure Ghandi freed India all by himself, but he also possibly had inappropriate sexual behavior. Do we ignore one story but not the other?

Do you get it now? See how these data sources cause issues?

Try the link yet?

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 11, 2017 05:05 am »

Critical of Gandhi and Kennedy?
Robert Kennedy tried to clean up the unions as attourney general. Gandhi freed India. Everything about the post even being critical of the idea it not spiritual enough here for you. Calling my articles hate articles.

I did not make up those stories. That's not being critical. I just relayed, not added to it, like Ghandi and his sexual stalking is evilllllll. That's being critical.

Hey I do exactly what you do. I hear things, read things. All from the same partial incomplete sources. Just like you.

Oh sure Ghandi freed India all by himself, but he also possibly had inappropriate sexual behavior. Do we ignore one story but not the other?

Do you get it now? See how these data sources cause issues?

Try the link yet?


How do u know were u there? Do u have both sides of the story? Is that your morality or U.S.A. morality u are bent on?
Got a forum for you...i think you can ask all your questions there and state your critical views:

http://asotincounty.net/forums/forums/102-Prosecuting-Attorney

It is a prosecuting attorney forum.

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How do u know were u there? Do u have both sides of the story? Is that your morality or U.S.A. morality u are bent on?
Got a forum for you...i think you can ask all your questions there and state your critical views:

http://asotincounty.net/forums/forums/102-Prosecuting-Attorney

It is a prosecuting attorney forum.


I just said I get my info just like you. Nope wasn't there, don't have both sides of story. But you don't admit it. I only said that about them because you brought those guys up.

I do not need to ask questions, because I'm not posting trump posts like you do. That's why I suggested to try a proper venue. But you knew that, so asking me to post on a prosecuting attorney forum does not even make sense. It's just an attempt to dodge the point.

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If you're doing this to educate the public thru your political posts, as you say, then your voice would be heard by so many more. Isn't that what you want? To make sure trump is cast down? You'll have much better chance of routing people than here.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 11, 2017 07:12 am »

Do we ignore one story but not the other? Well?
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« Reply #9 on: Dec 11, 2017 10:46 am »

Do we ignore one story but not the other? Well?

I have known many people in my life and am fortunate to have many friends. Even after knowing someone u hear stories about them. That does not mean u can't admire the good in them nor vote for them if they are running for office. If i were critical of all their flaws would i have so many friends? I do not ignore stories about them either good or bad. I take the good with the bad. With most people there is more good then bad. For those who like to be critical of everyone i would suggest this for a forum;

Got a forum for you...i think you can ask all your questions there and state your critical views:

http://asotincounty.net/forums/forums/102-Prosecuting-Attorney

It is a prosecuting attorney forum.

Or you could join a private investigation forum...i'm serious. U could be more sure of your investigation and criticism of others;

http://www.closeprotectionworld.com/private-investigation-forum/

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« Reply #10 on: Dec 11, 2017 07:40 pm »

We just cannot be ignorant about the fact that spirituality and politics go hand in hand as i have posted these important
words by Governor Brown about the consequences of leaving spirituality out of politics or putting in misdirected notions of spirituality in politics.

California Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown questioned President Donald Trump's faith when it came to the issue of climate change, stating it appeared he didn't fear "the wrath of God" or the "consequences" of ignoring global warming, The Hill reported Saturday.

"I don't think President Trump has a fear of the Lord, the fear of the wrath of God, which leads one to more humility," Brown told CBS' "60 Minutes" in an interview set to air on Sunday. "This is such a reckless disregard for the truth and for the existential consequences that can be unleashed."

This forum has a special function of finding spirituality connected to all our life experiences including politics. That is why it is not just a political forum but a forum that addresses all walks of life in a spiritual way.
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« Reply #11 on: Dec 11, 2017 07:55 pm »

Hi Steve
I disagree with Gov. Brownís opinion on Donald Trump about God. We donít know each otherís relationship with God so I donít think a disagreeing politician knows Trumps relationship to God either.
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« Reply #12 on: Dec 11, 2017 08:25 pm »

Hi Steve
I disagree with Gov. Brownís opinion on Donald Trump about God. We donít know each otherís relationship with God so I donít think a disagreeing politician knows Trumps relationship to God either.


U welcome to your opinion. Mine is simple...look at his actions-Trump has no relationship to God...zilch. He is spiritually void. I have been giving examples of his evil actions for years now. He is so ignorant spiritually speaking that he glorifies ego as is seen in his own statements. Glorifying ego is referred to as avidya in eastern spirituality which is defined as the soul as yet in total ignorance. Keeping the spiritual light out of comprehension is called avidya, the ignorance, as it makes man ignorant even of his Self. It is also quite obvious he suffers a dangerous state of Spiritual Narcissism putting his needs and his opinion of himself way in front of others.
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« Reply #13 on: Dec 12, 2017 04:01 am »

Hi Steve,
I tend to agree with SI on the subject- thereís just to much we donít know. I know spirituality can mean different things for people- somewhere in the variety is the occasional correlation, perhaps a ďuniversal truth?Ē Personally I donít want to spend so much of my own energy investing in the life of another man when I have so much to do working on myself. Every day is a battle. I tend to believe the Sufi point of view- god exist in the heart of man. I know god can be found even further when the heart, eyes and ears are open. We find god in nature. I even think God exist in Hitler. Iím beginning to understand that itís not for me to delve into these affairs or look so intensely into another persons life, criticizing their journey since we all must partake in this game/battle that is life. Every path is unique and not easily understood and in the end we all face death. My spirituality is in trying to nurture compassion/understanding as well as develop a healthy mind an body. There are measures we can take to protect ourselves and then there are forces outside of our control. I guess you have more faith in a democratic system to fight these things but I believe youíre pulling away from the potential to experience peace if you think so negatively of one man. It seems toxic and misleading, especially since over half the coverage of the news is someone elseís opinion with the intent to suade the viewers. You say you only need to look at his actions yet all you can see from him are negative things- this, to me, is an imbalanced perception. Just because you only see one side of a person doesnít mean they are void of another- I just donít believe that. Well, I donít know if youíre trying to run for mayor or something but you know I wish you well. This politics crap just isnít for me- our opinions on the matter are drastically different.
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« Reply #14 on: Dec 12, 2017 05:33 am »

When evil confronts us it is not for us to shirk our spiritual duty and do nothing. Eric before this last presidential election you had one article after another about fake news. Your views certainly did not fit into spiritual talk as si keeps bringing up. It would not surprise me at all that he leaves because he cannot change my view. We are facing one of the most important spiritual issues of civilization; the survival of civilization on mother earth itself and our spiritual duty of stewardship to this planet. The present administration doesn't even have a clue. This is not just about one man. This is about an ignorant group of people in this country that have absolutely no concern-as shown thru their actions- for the survival of this planet and the continual spiritual evolution of a species that live here. This is a spiritual war taking place about misplaced priorities of a group of ignorant people.
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