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« on: Nov 02, 2016 08:01 pm »

Excerpt taken from, The Sufi Message of Hazrat Inayat Khan: The Way of Illumination.

Sometimes belief proves to be worse than disbelief. This is when a person, set in his belief, hinders his own progress not allowing his mind to go further into the research of life, refusing guidance and advice from another, in order that he may preserve his own belief. Thus a belief which is preserved as a virtue becomes the greatest sin. Both belief and disbelief, by practice, in time become nature tendencies; the person who is inclined to believe gets into a habit of believing all things and everything, and an unbeliever in time comes to disbelieve everything whether right or wrong. The optimistic temperament is the temperament of the believer, and pessimism is as a rule the nature of the unbeliever. The prophets have always promised a reward for the believer, and have threatened the unbeliever with punishment, because the chance for spiritual enlightenment is only in the life of the believer, while the unbeliever covers his soul by his own disbelief.

Sufis are inclined to recognize four stages of belief: Iman-i Muhmil, when someone belies in a thing which others believe in, but no matter how strong his belief may be, when those in his surroundings change their belief, he will likewise change his.

Iman-i Kamil, the next stage of belief, is the belief of the idealist who has faith in his scripture and savior.

He believes because it is written in the scripture, or taught by the savior. His belief, of course, will not change with the weather, but still it may waver, if by any means reason were awakened in his soul. At least it would be dimmed just as the light of a candle would become dimmed by the rising sun. When the sun of the intelligence rises, it would break through and scatter the clouds of emotion and devotion made by this belief.

Haqq al-Iman, the third stage of belief, when man believes because his reason allows him to believe. Such a man is journeying through life with a torch in his hand. His belief is based on reason, and cannot be broken except by a still greater reason, for is it the diamond that alone can cut the diamond, and reason alone can break reason.

'Ain al-Iman, the fourth stage of belief is a belief of conviction; not only reason, but every part of one's being is convinced and assured of the truth of things, and nothing on earth can change it.

If a person were to say to him, 'Do not cross over this place, there is water here,' he will say, 'No, it is land. I can see for myself.'

It is just like seeing with the eys all that one believes. This belief is the belief of the seer whose knowledge is his eyewitness, and therefore his belief will last forever and ever. Of course, as a soul evolves from stage to stage, it must break the former belief on order to establish the later, and this breaking of the belief is called by Sufis Tark, which means abandonment; the abandoning of the worldly ideal, the abandonment of the heavenly ideal, and the abandoning of the divine ideal, and even the abandoning of abandonment. This brings hte seer to the shores of the ultimate truth.

'Truth is that which cannot be fully spoken, and that which can be spoken is not necessarily the truth.'

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« Reply #1 on: Nov 03, 2017 02:35 pm »

“Very often people dispute over their beliefs, and generally none of them is convinced. Each has his own point of view and they dispute in vain. Besides a person does not always argue because he knows; more often the reason is that he does not know. If a person knows he does not need to dispute; he can hear a hundred things said against his belief and yet remain convinced and happy.

There are four stages of belief.”
More on the four stages of belief here:
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 03, 2017 04:53 pm »

Somethings are worth disputing about or even fighting over. Like the freedom of human beings and the destiny of the human race and its survival. There will always be people who do not have respect for other human beings and are willing to enslave them and rationalize the most cruel practice of human beings. There are those who still believe the earth is flat and there is no climate change happening. If it were so we would not be in space today traveling to other planets and we will destroy our earth because people have no education or understanding of science. We cannot let our civilization and the delicate balance of our world atmosphere be jeopardized by the ignorant beliefs of a few....when most people believed in a round earth we were able to traverse space because of that belief. When we are able to believe that the climate is drastically changing we also will be able to elect officials willing to do something about it and not suppress the  truth by cancelling conventions, seminars and findings that reveal the truth.

For those making spiritual efforts and contributing to this forum we recognize the search for truth and the elimination of ignorance. There can be little spiritual progress without these ingredients. There is a social and physical basis to belief as well as beliefs that surround religion. When people disregard kindness and stewardship for our mother earth they are incapable of beliefs that promote happiness to themselves and others because their beliefs are so self centered they are unable to experience the bliss and happiness that arrises from meditation. Because meditative experiences requires a concern for others and our planet.
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« Reply #3 on: Jan 11, 2018 07:32 am »

Commentary by Pir-o-Murshid Inayat Khan

Belief is like a staircase. Each step takes one higher, but when one remains standing on a certain step of the staircase one does not progress. Belief may nail the feet to the ground and keep one there ... standing on a certain spot on a staircase. As a person evolves so his belief evolves, until he comes to that stage where he harmonizes with all the different beliefs, where he is no longer against any belief. Then he is not nailed down any more; he is above all the different beliefs. Very often a person says, 'I cannot understand what God is. Can you explain God to me? But if God were to be explained He would not be God. To explain God is to dethrone God.

God apart, can one explain anything fine and subtle such as gratitude, love, or devotion, in words? How much can be explained? Words are too inadequate to explain great feelings, so how can God be explained in words?

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 11, 2018 01:31 pm »

I have found my beliefs have changed thru the years. Some of them do not fit my current life. Beliefs are like an attitude that keeps people locked into a certain form of consciousness. Beliefs of those in political power can affect the living condition of those they represent. We can use our beliefs to help others or hinder their progress. The more we have the ability to affect the lives of others...the more we become responsible for our own beliefs and the actions that stem from those beliefs. Many times in history people who have been spiritually ignorant have shaped the lives and consciousness of the people they represent. For example the beliefs of of the 5th century emperor of Rome affected the beliefs of generations to come because of his disbelief of reincarnation. Emperor Justinian was evil in the actions he took regarding his beliefs and it was one of the most evil actions taken against spiritual understanding and religion in history. It left a feeling of guilt in the consciousness of people who were torn between the idea of heaven and hell and that they had only one life to reach heaven.

In the same way there are beliefs that shape the destiny of nations. It is important to recognize the spiritual ignorance in the mindsets of these beliefs and the evil they perpetuate on the human race. We find similar beliefs in the United States today. Leaders who refuse to research their own lives and even the research that is provided to them in an attempt to hold on to their own outdated beliefs on how to handle current realities. These beliefs are like 'sacred cows' to preserve their own state of nostalgic ignorance and mindsets. There are many people who still believe that the world is flat and that that there is no climate change despite all the evidence to the contrary. These people live in the past of their own life so called success and are unable to absorb more evolved and enlightening concepts. When such beliefs affect the lives of those around them adversely they become evil.

"Sometimes belief proves to be worse than disbelief. This is when a person, set in his belief, hinders his own progress not allowing his mind to go further into the research of life, refusing guidance and advice from another, in order that he may preserve his own belief. Thus a belief which is preserved as a virtue becomes the greatest sin."


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Excerpt taken from, The Sufi Message of Hazrat Inayat Khan: The Way of Illumination.

At times in history we are called to examine the beliefs of our own in relation to those of others in our social milieu.
As an example the civil war or W.W.II at these times leaders considered themselves superior to other human beings and today we find the leaders of our nation not only believing themselves superior to other human beings but to nature herself and the warnings of mother nature. This is ego and the belief of ego over spiritual understanding. It is as though belief has been preserved in
formaldehyde like a dead body trying to preserve life in something that no longer has adaptability to present realities.

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