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« on: Sep 21, 2018 05:06 pm »


Thanks but I have been aware of this for most of my life. As the article mentions there two ways of looking at this; the tropical and the sidereal zodiac. Furthermore the signs are just a very small part of astrology. The angular relationships between the planets both by transit and natal chart have not and cannot be disputed.... since they are computed by precise astronomical observation. This is how I do all my readings and predictions—not by ‘signs’ In fact the adjustment of the signs over the years is a fact well documented by Sri Yukteswar way before scientists had any thing to say about it and it is called the procession of the equinoxes and accounts for the changing evolutionary spiritual advancement slowly taking place since 500 A.D. If you are more curious about this-just ask questions. Compared to Hindu cosmology scientists still have only a rudimentary understanding of cosmological knowledge. Even Carl Sagan made this admission in his scientific show-Cosmos- but he erroneously surmised that it was quite by coincidence....when in fact there is a history of science that predates the ignorance of present scientific inquiry based on only empirical investigation and not on self inquiry which the Masters have shown to be superior to material and physical evidence.


I was recently in a coffee shop and the Barista asked me what my sign was. I mentioned that I had read an article which said all of our signs are off by one due to some error. Have you seen this article I'm referring to?

Astrologers and Astronomers have been aware of this for over 100 years now. Kunkle in his claims about a 13th sign is showing his ignorance. There could be even more signs if u want to make more images out of star combinations. He also shows a lack of explanation or understanding of astrology and science as well when he fails to explain the differences between sidereal and tropical astrology. He makes the arbitrary conclusion that the signs have changed. From a tropical point of view they have not changed because it is based on the position of the Sun to the earth...not on the Sun to the stars like the sidereal view looks at.
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 21, 2018 05:29 pm »

Thanks, I figured you'd be able to say something about it. I will mention what you said to that Barista next time.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 21, 2018 05:54 pm »

Thanks, I figured you'd be able to say something about it. I will mention what you said to that Barista next time.

I think that what may be even more important to mention to Barista is the fact that science itself has proven that both the sidereal or star centered theory and the tropical earth centered (or season based to use layman’s terms) are based on sense experiences and observation to be true. Just because one observation seems to contradict the other does not mean that a paradigm embracing both theories is not possible. Science has had to deal with many paradoxes in the last two hundred years. This is only one. I suppose with the understanding of paradoxes in human nature we are now also finding many paradoxes in the physical world and its mechanisms as well.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 21, 2018 06:06 pm »

That barista is very interested in astrology. I only brought up the article because, after reading it, I was genuinely not sure was what my zodiac sign was. I have always thought my sign was cancer, but I don't remember you ever mentioning if that is right.
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 30, 2018 05:39 am »

That barista is very interested in astrology. I only brought up the article because, after reading it, I was genuinely not sure was what my zodiac sign was. I have always thought my sign was cancer, but I don't remember you ever mentioning if that is right.

Hello I may have not because I do not consider the signs as important as the geometric aspects between the planets! I will be commenting on your chart here if that is o.k. with you and also hope your friend joins us; I could answer some of his questions about sidereal and Vedic astrology here. Perhaps he could help us with a better understanding as well.

You are a Cancer in regards to the Earths movement in relationship to the Sun through the seasons; which is the tropical zodiac. You are also a Cancer in the Vedic or Sidereal approach because the Sun has only had a procession of approximately 22 degrees in its relationship to the stars which is not enough to put your sign back one.
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Thanks but I have been aware of this for most of my life. As the article mentions there two ways of looking at this; the tropical and the sidereal zodiac. Furthermore the signs are just a very small part of astrology. The angular relationships between the planets both by transit and natal chart have not and cannot be disputed.... since they are computed by precise astronomical observation. This is how I do all my readings and predictions—not by ‘signs’ In fact the adjustment of the signs over the years is a fact well documented by Sri Yukteswar way before scientists had any thing to say about it and it is called the procession of the equinoxes and accounts for the changing evolutionary spiritual advancement slowly taking place since 500 A.D. If you are more curious about this-just ask questions. Compared to Hindu cosmology scientists still have only a rudimentary understanding of cosmological knowledge. Even Carl Sagan made this admission in his scientific show-Cosmos- but he erroneously surmised that it was quite by coincidence....when in fact there is a history of science that predates the ignorance of present scientific inquiry based on only empirical investigation and not on self inquiry which the Masters have shown to be superior to material and physical evidence.


I was recently in a coffee shop and the Barista asked me what my sign was. I mentioned that I had read an article which said all of our signs are off by one due to some error. Have you seen this article I'm referring to?

Astrologers and Astronomers have been aware of this for over 100 years now. Kunkle in his claims about a 13th sign is showing his ignorance. There could be even more signs if u want to make more images out of star combinations. He also shows a lack of explanation or understanding of astrology and science as well when he fails to explain the differences between sidereal and tropical astrology. He makes the arbitrary conclusion that the signs have changed. From a tropical point of view they have not changed because it is based on the position of the Sun to the earth...not on the Sun to the stars like the sidereal view looks at.


Hi Steve, have you read about nakshatras in vedic astrology?
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Thanks but I have been aware of this for most of my life. As the article mentions there two ways of looking at this; the tropical and the sidereal zodiac. Furthermore the signs are just a very small part of astrology. The angular relationships between the planets both by transit and natal chart have not and cannot be disputed.... since they are computed by precise astronomical observation. This is how I do all my readings and predictions—not by ‘signs’ In fact the adjustment of the signs over the years is a fact well documented by Sri Yukteswar way before scientists had any thing to say about it and it is called the procession of the equinoxes and accounts for the changing evolutionary spiritual advancement slowly taking place since 500 A.D. If you are more curious about this-just ask questions. Compared to Hindu cosmology scientists still have only a rudimentary understanding of cosmological knowledge. Even Carl Sagan made this admission in his scientific show-Cosmos- but he erroneously surmised that it was quite by coincidence....when in fact there is a history of science that predates the ignorance of present scientific inquiry based on only empirical investigation and not on self inquiry which the Masters have shown to be superior to material and physical evidence.


I was recently in a coffee shop and the Barista asked me what my sign was. I mentioned that I had read an article which said all of our signs are off by one due to some error. Have you seen this article I'm referring to?

Astrologers and Astronomers have been aware of this for over 100 years now. Kunkle in his claims about a 13th sign is showing his ignorance. There could be even more signs if u want to make more images out of star combinations. He also shows a lack of explanation or understanding of astrology and science as well when he fails to explain the differences between sidereal and tropical astrology. He makes the arbitrary conclusion that the signs have changed. From a tropical point of view they have not changed because it is based on the position of the Sun to the earth...not on the Sun to the stars like the sidereal view looks at.

I think both vedic and western astrology can work. It really depends on the intution and the skill of the astrologer.

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