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« Reply #30 on: Dec 29, 2009 08:39 pm »

i started off doing it in my head from western ephemeris but am sure that indian ephemeris have existed and do exist in india .as most astrology is done by computer these days,the electronic ephemeris is available and part of every vedic astrology program,this is what i use now and dont look at a western ephemeris anymore.
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« Reply #31 on: Dec 29, 2009 08:45 pm »

i started off doing it in my head from western ephemeris but am sure that indian ephemeris have existed and do exist in india .as most astrology is done by computer these days,the electronic ephemeris is available and part of every vedic astrology program,this is what i use now and dont look at a western ephemeris anymore.

Thanks Mulaian i do not want to force your interest however if you have it i would like to continue this topic. Perhaps not all at once but over time. i do not have an Indian ephemeris nor a program for it. However it is possible that i can find this info on the internet to make observations. You are invited to use my chart to compare or we could use yours also. My birth time is 7/4/52 Pasadena California 3:10 A.M. My western chart is located under charts in this section of the forum. Perhaps we should have a separate section with Vedic charts. You could start it if you'd like. We would be priveleged. i will put the heading  in this area.

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« Reply #32 on: Dec 29, 2009 08:57 pm »

im sure you will find it a rewarding enquiry to study the same system that sri yuktswar used.for an enlightened western approach david frawley and his book astrology of the seers is a great book to read and learn from.also komilla sutton manages to bridge the east and west very well.we can explore your chart if you like.
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« Reply #33 on: Jan 03, 2010 06:50 am »

im sure you will find it a rewarding enquiry to study the same system that sri yuktswar used.for an enlightened western approach david frawley and his book astrology of the seers is a great book to read and learn from.also komilla sutton manages to bridge the east and west very well.we can explore your chart if you like.

i have not seen you back here for a while. i would still be interested in exploring my chart in vedic astrology if you would do that i would like to explore yours in the tropical mode. What do you think? i need your data. We could post charts here and under 'charts'

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« Reply #34 on: Jan 03, 2010 06:59 pm »

because that corresponds to the same point in the sky as vedic 11 degree taurus .labelling that point in the sky differently does not change the transit effect to that portion of the heavens.it is still alligned with the star prima hyadum in the constellation of taurus and quite close to aldeberan the eye of the bull in taurus.so when you were born prima hyadum was rising and aldeberan was about to rise aspects to this point would effect you personally .regardless of the labelling.

Mulaian i understand what you are saying here. The only thing that would be different is the labeling. The aspects to the planets and points on the chart would be the same just the interpretaions of the signs that occupy these areas would be different. Right?

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« Reply #35 on: Jan 03, 2010 07:04 pm »

yes a different interpretation
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« Reply #36 on: Jan 03, 2010 07:12 pm »

yes a different interpretation

Yet wouldn't the interpretation of the aspects be similar? i mean; a square between two planets or a conjunction to the ascendent would still be the same. Wouldn't it? It is just the color we cast over it by the signs.

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« Reply #37 on: Jan 03, 2010 08:05 pm »

so i thought initially but its a lot more complex than that.with different houses ruling planets and a different way of viewing aspects.
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« Reply #38 on: Jan 04, 2010 09:48 am »

so i thought initially but its a lot more complex than that.with different houses ruling planets and a different way of viewing aspects.

I would say that any planets ruling my house would be better than the arrangement I have right now. It is a lot more complex than you could dream, but my wife thinks its very simple. Debate is out of the question.

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« Reply #39 on: Jan 04, 2010 10:27 am »

so i thought initially but its a lot more complex than that.with different houses ruling planets and a different way of viewing aspects.

Yes i was aware of that one. i think it would be very interesting to find someone that could explain Capricorn on my midheaven with Saturn ruling. Especially since i have always had rather unusual career situations with a lot of electronics involved. But if you would like to try it would be quite fascinating.

The western approach is obviously a Sun approached astrology. When it crosses the equater that is the first point of Aries despite what is literally light years away. But i give the eastern approach credit; i do accept the view of the procession of the equinoxes and it's affect over generations and milinneums. i have lots to learn form the Eastern approach before i can assess it. i am sure it has much to offer. As you know your interest in astrology shows up strong in the western approach adding the influence of Uranus on your midheaven which rules astrology. It would be nice to hear a bit more than one liners my friend. You are welcome to put my chart in an Eastern format for starts. i would really appreciate your views.

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« Reply #40 on: Jan 04, 2010 10:34 am »

i am trying to avoid saying much to avoid misunderstanding .you may have noticed our mercury's are inconjunct.most of your questions can be answered by reading one good vedic book.much better than me.
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« Reply #41 on: Jan 04, 2010 05:49 pm »

Steve, back to the drawing board, or library, see if a book jumps out at you !

seems I recall a saying " East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet ".... wonder if they were talking Astrology ? I do not think they were talking Mark Twain and his Eastern cousin.


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Alfred E. Newman ~ now there is a different idea , planets ruling the house  Grin Must be a hot event, when you have housewarming parties.

I must be lost, wandering into the Vedic and Western Astrology section, lol ! now where did I put that map of the forum ?
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« Reply #42 on: Mar 02, 2010 01:25 pm »

hi steve i just found some info new to me which does bring together both systems using a tropical zodiac which he says sri yukteswar did use.it seems that the zodiac is not meant to represent the stars. on that basis i can see a strong case for the western tropical zodiac which we both know works well from experience.the ancient nakshatra system(27 lunar mansions) becomes independant of the tropical one and it is this zodiac that represents the star influence and is used for forecasting planetary periods and timing events, using the western zodiac for interpretation .i have just discovered this method(so much out there)so it will take some time to verify .the guy says thus method is more accurate than either system so i will investigate as i am curious...check it out ..www.vedic-astrology.net...finally some common ground
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« Reply #43 on: Mar 02, 2010 01:40 pm »

hi steve i just found some info new to me which does bring together both systems using a tropical zodiac which he says sri yukteswar did use.it seems that the zodiac is not meant to represent the stars.

The western approach is obviously a Sun approached astrology. When it crosses the equater that is the first point of Aries despite what is literally light years away. Steve Hydonus
That is what i have stated before Mulaian; "....despite what (the stars) is literally light years away." same meaning as: "the zodiac is not meant to represent the stars." It is a Sun centered system. Regardless of where the stars are the Sun crosses the equator in the spring. This marks the first point of Aries in the Western approach.

It is nice to have you back here. Another new friend of mine is vedic astrologer. It is nice to learn from friends as i have mentioned. Jai Sri Yukteswar.
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« Reply #44 on: Jun 16, 2010 04:19 pm »

i tried using tropical zodiac with vedic system but for me it doesnt work. shame as it would have made things simpler .so its back to the tried and tested but with new insight. for me adding western techniques to vedic zodiac works better ...each to there own
  if anyone is interested i have started facebook group called star trek. members are mostly followers of western sytem, so i try to avoid talking vedic zodiac. but discuss the effects of lunar mansions(common to western and vedic) called nakshatras in vedic.welcome all comments by western astrologers.the important thing is sharing of information and ideas
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