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« Reply #15 on: Jun 08, 2010 11:19 pm »

Intent is very important.  it is a crucial part of finding God again.  yet...is it all that one needs ? 

Intent...according to dictionary:  firmly directed or fixed; earnest; intense 2) having the mind or attention firmly directed or fixed.

do not we need Understanding of what it is were are Intent on ?

some...still see god / creator as some sort of 'bearded fella in the sky...ready to send us to hell for our sins'.

so..should we set our Intent on that God ? a god of dogma....or the real thing. ??

we need to Understand God for the Real God...not the dogmatic God.

many 'religions' still preach about a god of dogma....

so...i believe...there are more ingredients to recipe than just intent...

one must use other ingredients to come up with final recipe, for finding God again.

other ingredients that come to mind....Devotion, Sincerity, Understanding, Patience....Direction

if anyone has other ingredients...please add to list  Wink

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I do hope you are well on this day. That is the tricky part with intent in that if you are intent on a certain thing to happen a certain way you may miss what you were really looking for. When it comes to matters of spirit if you are intent on looking for a certain God, say that man with a beard you may not find it, or you may. It's hard to say if our mind will create things in the way that we are most comfortable with. I have heard that Angels and Guides use such a tactic to not scare anyone. After all if a giant crocodile was your guide it may scare you at first. If mine was a spider I'd be scared.

Now as Steve has pointed out we are lost in darkness these days. Mainly because we have been guided wrong. We have been told what something is, and isn't. We've been told about going to hell. We've been told about the only way to God is through Jesus, or Krishna. Etc. So in that essence a guru may be beneficial to help steer a person. If you think about it. Just reading online is sort of like a guru. Yea, you can find answers when you meditate. But if no one told you to meditate you wouldn't know.

Those other aspects can be beneficial to a persons growth.. But, IMO, they stem from intent. If you were not intent on going anywhere in your growth you would not have any reason for devotion, or dedication.
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« Reply #16 on: Jun 09, 2010 02:06 pm »

Neat vocabulary and concepts....   
1). Intent. 
2). "object" of salvation (i.e. - form of divinity that devotee may relate to, tune with, expand with -- ie.. Jesus, Gauttama, Guru )
3). sadhana (path)
4). dharma / kriya = work / techniques
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 01, 2011 04:06 am »

Kriya Yoga: "I give you a key to unlock heaven"~ Lahiri Mahasaya
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« Reply #18 on: Jul 24, 2011 06:31 pm »

TECHNIQUES AND MEDITATION

The science of yoga is the gradual dimming of the senses; then the energy comes in.

Evaluate how much time you are spending with the world and how much time you are spending with God.

Long steadfast practice of Hong-Sau helps the mind to stop and helps pranayama to develop.

Through Kriya Yoga gradually one is immune to astrological forces.

The entire feeling of peace and power at the end of meditation must be consciously transferred to the entire brain in order to change our brains.

If your techniques are not working, look at your attitude toward your Guru, toward life, etc.

The goal of relaxation is to gradually disassociate the mind from the body.

The moment you are calm in meditation, the top of your head opens and millions of light energy units come down to harmonize the body.
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« Reply #19 on: Oct 26, 2012 12:15 am »

TECHNIQUES AND MEDITATION

The science of yoga is the gradual dimming of the senses; then the energy comes in.

Evaluate how much time you are spending with the world and how much time you are spending with God.

Long steadfast practice of Hong-Sau helps the mind to stop and helps pranayama to develop.

Through Kriya Yoga gradually one is immune to astrological forces.

The entire feeling of peace and power at the end of meditation must be consciously transferred to the entire brain in order to change our brains.

If your techniques are not working, look at your attitude toward your Guru, toward life, etc.

The goal of relaxation is to gradually disassociate the mind from the body.

The moment you are calm in meditation, the top of your head opens and millions of light energy units come down to harmonize the body.


during kriyas last night.....gods white light came and i exited body thru it.  very excited i am.  will write later more about it. 

will....the usage of will with god. 

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The practice of kriya has the ability to bring together differing views and difficult interpersonal challenges. Because kriya brings you directly into the soul of another human being for a time you are freed of any spacial and timely causes for separation. Because kriya brings you to that timeless and spacial expansion that bridges human beings and brakes down separations.

It is interesting the various spiritual expereinces we have with this practice. Now personally it brings me inside to a place that opens the heart and a soft cushion of peace settles over me that evens out the restless thought waves that make it difficult to connect with others. It also gives such a peace that you temporarily feel a connection with all life. The afterglow often resurfaces at various times of the day or nite. The key is to carry this portal paradise with you at all times. This only starts occuring after long years of practice. Stlll for most of us the world has its way of working back into the consciousness and disturbing the pale of peace gathered.
Yet more and more we manifest the qualities that Kriya opens us up to.

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« Reply #20 on: Mar 27, 2014 06:35 am »

Quote from: SpiritImage link=topic=3033.msg15537#msg15537 date=139588994ive
I've skipped around a lot in this book, but I just recently started from the beginning, I'm at chap II verse 47, I usually read just a few pages at a time, then try to think about it a while. Sure, sometimes bouncing thoughts and ideas off someone else can bring out even more thoughts and ideas that may not have come up otherwise. We'll try it,

Seems you've travelled and met a lot of devotees along the way, do you often get to discuss with others? Wish I knew more people practicing yoga or kriya that I could run stuff by.

Nomaste2all and prabhatsinha are also kriyabans. We are fortunate to have them with us. You can find their posts throughout the forum. Nomaste works on computers all day so often becomes weary with them but I often send pm's to him to let him know when I have written something on the site he might be interested in. He will be back again.  Check out pilgrimages. It was his idea to have this section:  http://musicmeditate.smfforfree.com/index.php/board,108.0.html We spent a lot of time on pilgrimages and going to spiritual activities.

I've been a kriyaban most of my life. i liked the idea of burning off karma that kriya is renowned for. I mean we are supposed to store all the seeds of our karma in our astral spine. That is an awesome idea. But how do you get rid of that karma; kriya. It wasn't till kriya that I really noticed progress in meditation. The iam technique has helped me also and some Buddhist techniques.

There are some very kind people here. They come and go and come back. Some of them i miss very much and truly love. Each soul is a unique spark of God. Each one has it's own beauty and purpose. Perhaps that is why i feel for them and still pray for them.

We are like magnets we can draw more to us. You are helping us with your practice and serving here. Thank you. Jesus said where two or more are gathered there i shall be also and for those who have much will be given and to those who have not even that which they have will be taken away. Let us be magnets of spirituality and start here in the now where we find ourselves!

When I was in my late teens and early twenties I felt very lonely spiritually speaking. But I see now that it was meant that way so I would spend time searching within instead of being with so many people and not doing my spiritual practice. I prayed for friends that would understand me and my search. They have come from out of the wood work over the years. Now we have a larger purpose. It is expanding. Perhaps you also have meditation groups in your area. It is a good way to help your own path. Don't miss chances to see saints when they are in your area or go distances to see them. You will have many more chances for spiritual friends and seekers to get aquainted to.

Yes i do get a chance to discuss with others and I am doing it right this moment because we can seize the blessings when they come or let them slide...... That would be most unfortunate.

Jai Guru Spiritimage I find your  interest heart warming and feel God's presence lurking close by.
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 28, 2014 05:33 am »

I've been a kriyaban most of my life.

Then you are leaps and bounds ahead of where I am. Have you reached Samadhi ever?
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 29, 2014 04:37 am »

Yoga = God Union

the yogi is able to lessen or prevent the decay of tissues;
the advanced yogi transmutes his cells into pure energy.

There is a subtle clue in the above...
there are levels or layers of yogic perfections that arise...

the first is for a persistent yogi, (and I term this the 'outer circle')...
and few seek, and fewer are graced to reach even the 'outer circle'...
In the 'outer circle, the aspiring yogi, is given the framework of techniques and practice (ideally) from a liberated being...
and the yogi who persists over the lifetime will observe physiological and mental efficiencies --
will observe structures of the apparatus of the human and the fabrics of the universes, et al.

these benefits (of the outer circle) are evident in many yoga-like practices, as they often share some of the same spiritual scientific principles...
and perhaps we might consider some are more efficient (but how do we measure the speed and efficiencies of jets for example...)
Perhaps each is eventually drawn by seeking, by trial and error, and ultimately some divine grace to the yogic lineage / techniques which best suite their constitution...

But then look at that second line !  "the advanced yogi transmutes his cells into pure energy."[/i]
So the paradox seems that yoga may also become a very very subtle science *inner circle*,
but this is essentially not observable by the default configurations of human aparatus and human ages and human realms...
not by the masses, and even not by many striving holy persons... but likely by enough that there is a network of advanced souls incarnate, and with offsets in generations, and geographic placements, walks of life, etc.

this *inner circle* is beyond the ability of any human language or such to transmit or convey from one to the other...
and in that realm,
 the 'advanced yogi' treads the path of an inner circle...
this is something that is not for us to imagine or falsely believe we have attained...
there are yogic treastises that discuss the appearance of the 'perfections'...
these 'perfections' are not what is sought,

but as we expand into greater divine unity,
and the 'vain idea of a separate existence' is released...
these 'perfections' simply arise as a by product.
But they are not under any compulsion to be observable by the masses...
(and only rarely are even advanced yogis granted some divine purpose to be a divine conduit / actor to show another advancing yogi)
i.e. -- Sri Yukteswar appearing to yogananda to tell him he would arrive at the train station, etc.)

"Those who know, do not say / show;
Those who know not, say much."

As we expand into the Divine,
it seems a 'simple elegance' arises...
we become so much less identified with the 'human doing', less identified with the 'field' or the 'vehicle',...
but go much more to the 'flow' side of the equation...
dwelling in some expanded realm...
and more and more simply watching 'the little me, floating within our Being'...

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may we release to the divine flow...
both the ripe and the rotting fruits of this human sphere... 
with equal love...
we are thy children God, we love you,...
make us whole (unified)...

Shanti OM



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« Reply #23 on: Mar 29, 2014 04:46 am »

There is a concept we tread upon (all of us)...

it is that we are one and in unity with God already,
so all this stuff is just not to worry about, or strive,
(why fuss to do the yoga, etc.)

Here is something we might consider...

As long as we are a beamlet wave particle of divine light manifest in the creation,
we shall experience and to some degree (even for liberated beings incarnate)
bound by the laws of creation...

"Reality is only an illusion, albeit a persistent one." -- Albert Einstein

The true beauty of the yoga,
is it provides a divine science,
to avoid polarizing, or knoting, or whirl-pooling, or hypnotizing...
upon a little nook or crany of the flow of this thing called 'life'...
rather,
it provides a gift that permits us to de-magnetize, de-hypnotize enough to keep a clear nucleus -- that being the doorway of sorts to expand the creation constructs enough in all directions, to permit a Poise or Equillibrium to be maintained...

"Prince of Peace,
Sitting on Throne of Poise,
Directing Kingdom of Activity."

So yes, we are all liberated in a true ultimate sense,
(as reality is an illusion),
yet we needn't just submit to the oscillations and pendulum swings,
and we needn't become some robot or extremist...

there is a middle path...
but the great ones all seem to have done something that the masses have not often availed...
they like great athletes, keep in shape, to remain in that Poise and Equilibrium...

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just considering...
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 29, 2014 05:14 am »

Then you are leaps and bounds ahead of where I am. Have you reached Samadhi ever?

the great equalizer is that we are all children in the same family, and equally loved by our Parent (God)... ?
smiles and love

the thing that is often confused with this word "Samadhi"...
it means "communion" or "a flow of unity"...

A great rishi (seer) called Patanjali that lived long ago,
set out to explain the levels an aspiring yogi may observe...

the interesting thing is that we can reach a 'samadhi' that is of the same substance as the great ones in some senses,
it is just that we do not expand to the same degree or we are not yet able to drink as deep...

Patanjali says we first experience "With Difference" Samadhi (communions)...
meaning that we get a little dip of that unity,
and Patanjali says that we are gifted an 'impression' of that experience to bring back into our everyday "human doing" state...
Patanjali states that as we persist, the dips into that divine stream ocean, may be deeper, and may come more and more often,
and that the "impresssions" build up to build a truer reflection in our moments...

eventually, the moments we spend in the Divine ocean / stream unity communion increases,
and the moments experiencing seperation recede...

utlimately, there is none but unity communion all the time....  (this is the highest form of samadhi -- "Undivided"  Nirvikalpa Samadhi).

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Consider this little story to help consider...

Between the swelling tops of two waves,
there is formed a low belly that touches the surface of the ocean...

consider that when we are in that belly between the waves,
that we are for a bit emersed and one with the Ocean ? ! ! !
(cool huh !)

Well, the coolest thing is...
when we are there in unity with the ocean,
it does not matter whether for seconds or minutes, or hours...
because that unity is beyond any constructs...
beyond time,
beyond space...

it is so utterly majestic and pure, and like being in such comfort and ease, yet vibrant and lovely...

so when you walk in the woods and become stilled a bit,
and a peace comes over...
guess what ... that's an example in some ways, of how we settle down between the waves dancing and playing out the storm of human life,...
and as we still, we settle into that belly between the waves,
and we get a little glimpse of something that seems so comforting...
we dip a little in that ocean...

so do those things that help get settled off from riding the wave, ...
little by little it builds (as Patanjali says)...

so far, I've observed what Patanjali says to be true in my observations...
and yes, I want to be there in unity more and more... smiles

***************
the samadhi is like a sunset,
we experience with all our senses, the smell, the wind, the colors, the moment itself,...
and if we have a camera, we can take a photo and look at it later (this is like the impression we are graced)...
and even show it to others sometimes, and they may see it's pretty,
but for the one that was there and took the photo...
it transports us to the sunset moment...

so relax, still, dive a little...
enjoy a 'communion'...

?

Cheers !


Shanti OM
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« Reply #25 on: Mar 30, 2014 08:17 am »

The mind is a very unstable character. It is the greatest traveler yet cannot be controlled easily. Finding something to harness the minds restless activity brings the mind to places it has never entertained on its own. This is because the mind can only explore what it can come up with. Yet behind the mind are vistas yet to tell. So in kriya we continously bring the thoughts back to the breath and the movement up and down the spine. In this process, at some point the mind will release it's hold on us and we will experience what is beyond mind. It is difficult to describe something that is beyond mind with the mind. So we can only practice to become aware of what I am describing.
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 30, 2014 09:28 pm »

According to my crude and non-educated calculations, in order to perform 1728 Kriyas non-stop, I'm guessing about 30 seconds each, is 14+ hours.

I certainly wouldn't want to get halfway thru then be distracted or interrupted somehow  Sad
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« Reply #27 on: Apr 04, 2014 01:06 pm »

Recently I have taken more of a look at kriya practice and the IAM practice. I have been giving more awareness to the thought of bringing light up and down the spine and being patient with myself when I rotate that energy along the spine. We have a tendency to rush things in general and it is often the way of the world and other people sometimes rush us which seems contrary to the practice of Kriya.

IAM seems to work better for me when I am limited by time constraints. Bringing the gurus into our practice helps us interiorize.

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« Reply #28 on: Apr 07, 2014 06:08 am »

"Kriya Secrets Revealed" was brought up at another forum.

So was this link (which I've read a few times before)

http://www.sanskritclassics.com/index.htm

Basically it sounds like the book has some Kriya techniques apparently different than SRF.

The link bashes PY pretty hard, and also seems to lean toward Kriya techniques apparently different than SRF.

I'm not feeling the truth about all this yet. Yes I know it doesn't matter, for an endless number of reasons.

Just fishing for some logical insights, thoughts, etc., NOT looking for the old "don't worry about it and you should focus on fill in blank here"  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: Apr 07, 2014 07:38 pm »

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2497788

I don't know if this will help or not. Maybe you could email Roy Eugene Davis and ask him about this subject. He seems to have a pretty sober outlook on things. I am familiar with the link you posted and it confused me too when I was trying to decide whether I should follow the Kriya yoga path. It's not hard to fall down the rabbit hole and get pretty confused, as that's what happened to me.
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