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« Reply #30 on: Apr 07, 2014 10:32 pm »

Yes it is confusing, sometimes the information power of the internet can be like a curse.

Are these alternate and opposing views part of the reason why you have decided not to receive the Kriya yoga path yet?
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« Reply #31 on: Apr 07, 2014 11:32 pm »

Yes it is confusing, sometimes the information power of the internet can be like a curse.

Are these alternate and opposing views part of the reason why you have decided not to receive the Kriya yoga path yet?

Yes.
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« Reply #32 on: Apr 08, 2014 11:57 am »

Yes it is confusing, sometimes the information power of the internet can be like a curse.

Are these alternate and opposing views part of the reason why you have decided not to receive the Kriya yoga path yet?

Yes.

As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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« Reply #33 on: Apr 09, 2014 02:11 am »

As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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Steve I agree with you.

However, Yogananda states very specifically that meditation, and more specifically Kriya Yoga, is the only way to obtain the wisdom needed to get to the top of the mountain. Once that wisdom is obtained, then you don't need Kriya.

But then there's the PY bashers, and of course not only other Gurus from India, but other nations as well with their own top of the mountain methods.

Maybe they all do indeed lead to the same end. Maybe they do not. Maybe God is making changes to guide us that is very individual to where we are at on the path.

All I know is that I cannot have the slightest doubt, even 1% may be a hindrance.

God is the Doer, He has brought forth this information for us to consider and scrutinize.....

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« Reply #34 on: Apr 09, 2014 02:24 am »

As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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Steve I agree with you.

However, Yogananda states very specifically that meditation, and more specifically Kriya Yoga, is the only way to obtain the wisdom needed to get to the top of the mountain. Once that wisdom is obtained, then you don't need Kriya.

Yogananda states what? Where? Never read anything like it. Never!
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« Reply #35 on: Apr 09, 2014 02:35 am »

I think what SpiritImage means is that Yogananda endorses meditation, and specifically Kriya Yoga, as the quickest, most effective and "scientific" way up the mountain to his disciples.

Of course, he never says it's the only way.
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« Reply #36 on: Apr 09, 2014 05:28 am »

I think what SpiritImage means is that Yogananda endorses meditation, and specifically Kriya Yoga, as the quickest, most effective and "scientific" way up the mountain to his disciples.

Of course, he never says it's the only way.

I am not sure who to respond to right now Brock since we already have three different views of what Paramahansa Yogananda said. Perhaps that should tell us something as well.
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« Reply #37 on: Apr 09, 2014 07:11 am »

Yogananda states what? Where? Never read anything like it. Never!

I'll reread the first 3 chapters of the Gita, as that's where I believe it was. This will take some time. Chap III verse 3 talks about it, but I swear it was in other verses as well.

Until then, is there another way? What is it?
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« Reply #38 on: Apr 09, 2014 07:15 am »

And BTW, you both sure are quick on the draw. Sheesh.
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« Reply #39 on: Apr 09, 2014 08:24 am »

Well I did a lot of thumbing thru trying to find it and I cannot. I'm sure I read it,

So I placed words in PY's mouth. I'm sure I will pay for that, as Steve seems a little unfriendly, maybe I already did.

Carry on.
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« Reply #40 on: Apr 09, 2014 08:39 am »

Well I did a lot of thumbing thru trying to find it and I cannot. I'm sure I read it,

So I placed words in PY's mouth. I'm sure I will pay for that, as Steve seems a little unfriendly, maybe I already did.

Carry on.
As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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Steve I agree with you.

However, Yogananda states very specifically that meditation, and more specifically Kriya Yoga, is the only way to obtain the wisdom needed to get to the top of the mountain. Once that wisdom is obtained, then you don't need Kriya.

But then there's the PY bashers, and of course not only other Gurus from India, but other nations as well with their own top of the mountain methods.

Maybe they all do indeed lead to the same end. Maybe they do not. Maybe God is making changes to guide us that is very individual to where we are at on the path.

All I know is that I cannot have the slightest doubt, even 1% may be a hindrance.

God is the Doer, He has brought forth this information for us to consider and scrutinize.....



Unfriendly? I have been reading Yogananda's writings for about 40 years. Never read anything like that. I wouldn't read anything more into this comment. We are fortunate to have you with us Spiritimage. Friends do not agree about everything. Think what a boring world it would be if everyone were like me.

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« Reply #41 on: Apr 09, 2014 08:49 am »

Yogananda states what? Where? Never read anything like it. Never!

I'll reread the first 3 chapters of the Gita, as that's where I believe it was. This will take some time. Chap III verse 3 talks about it, but I swear it was in other verses as well.

Until then, is there another way? What is it?

We started this forum without it being called some variation of the name Yogananda. Why? Because we recognize as Yogananda did; that there are many ways. It is not for me to tell you your path. We are exploring paths together and learning from one another. Sure I have found my path and way... but I still can learn from others and their unique path and way.

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« Reply #42 on: Apr 10, 2014 11:24 pm »

Well I did a lot of thumbing thru trying to find it and I cannot. I'm sure I read it,

So I placed words in PY's mouth. I'm sure I will pay for that, as Steve seems a little unfriendly, maybe I already did.

Carry on.

No problem if and when you find what your read we can have a chance to discuss it.  Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: Apr 10, 2014 11:30 pm »

And BTW, you both sure are quick on the draw. Sheesh 

Is that a good or bad thing? Try to respond to your posts SpiritImage. Some of them take some thought others I have more of an
immediate answer to because I have had more experience in the subject matter and have formulated my own ideas about the answers.
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« Reply #44 on: Apr 13, 2014 07:32 pm »

As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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Steve I agree with you.

But then there's the PY bashers, and of course not only other Gurus from India, but other nations as well with their own top of the mountain methods.

Maybe they all do indeed lead to the same end. Maybe they do not. Maybe God is making changes to guide us that is very individual to where we are at on the path.

All I know is that I cannot have the slightest doubt, even 1% may be a hindrance.

God is the Doer, He has brought forth this information for us to consider and scrutinize.....

I believe that many Gurus ask us to try it ourselves. So unless we give something a try and work on it for a while how will we ever know what results are forthcoming. If I had said to myself early in my life "I do not know if I will ever be able to play an instrument and sing." Would I have ever been able to do it? People have bashed me along the way also. When you are in the public eye you will always be subject to slander as well as praise. If you are sincere God will lead you to the people and path that is for you. If you give up how can he help? What in this life comes without some effort? Very little is handed to us on a silver platter and that which is we do not very often appreciate anyhow. Use you your 99% per cent to go for it and your 1% to be somewhat skeptical if you must. If your skepticism leads you somewhere else than follow it.

I have been exposed to many paths, they are good for others and not for myself. I found what was most comfortable for me and I went for it to see if I would get results and I did.


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