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« Reply #30 on: Apr 09, 2014 02:24 am »

As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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Steve I agree with you.

However, Yogananda states very specifically that meditation, and more specifically Kriya Yoga, is the only way to obtain the wisdom needed to get to the top of the mountain. Once that wisdom is obtained, then you don't need Kriya.

Yogananda states what? Where? Never read anything like it. Never!
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« Reply #31 on: Apr 09, 2014 02:35 am »

I think what SpiritImage means is that Yogananda endorses meditation, and specifically Kriya Yoga, as the quickest, most effective and "scientific" way up the mountain to his disciples.

Of course, he never says it's the only way.
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« Reply #32 on: Apr 09, 2014 05:28 am »

I think what SpiritImage means is that Yogananda endorses meditation, and specifically Kriya Yoga, as the quickest, most effective and "scientific" way up the mountain to his disciples.

Of course, he never says it's the only way.

I am not sure who to respond to right now Brock since we already have three different views of what Paramahansa Yogananda said. Perhaps that should tell us something as well.
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« Reply #33 on: Apr 09, 2014 07:11 am »

Yogananda states what? Where? Never read anything like it. Never!

I'll reread the first 3 chapters of the Gita, as that's where I believe it was. This will take some time. Chap III verse 3 talks about it, but I swear it was in other verses as well.

Until then, is there another way? What is it?
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« Reply #34 on: Apr 09, 2014 07:15 am »

And BTW, you both sure are quick on the draw. Sheesh.
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« Reply #35 on: Apr 09, 2014 08:24 am »

Well I did a lot of thumbing thru trying to find it and I cannot. I'm sure I read it,

So I placed words in PY's mouth. I'm sure I will pay for that, as Steve seems a little unfriendly, maybe I already did.

Carry on.
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« Reply #36 on: Apr 09, 2014 08:39 am »

Well I did a lot of thumbing thru trying to find it and I cannot. I'm sure I read it,

So I placed words in PY's mouth. I'm sure I will pay for that, as Steve seems a little unfriendly, maybe I already did.

Carry on.
As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

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Steve I agree with you.

However, Yogananda states very specifically that meditation, and more specifically Kriya Yoga, is the only way to obtain the wisdom needed to get to the top of the mountain. Once that wisdom is obtained, then you don't need Kriya.

But then there's the PY bashers, and of course not only other Gurus from India, but other nations as well with their own top of the mountain methods.

Maybe they all do indeed lead to the same end. Maybe they do not. Maybe God is making changes to guide us that is very individual to where we are at on the path.

All I know is that I cannot have the slightest doubt, even 1% may be a hindrance.

God is the Doer, He has brought forth this information for us to consider and scrutinize.....



Unfriendly? I have been reading Yogananda's writings for about 40 years. Never read anything like that. I wouldn't read anything more into this comment. We are fortunate to have you with us Spiritimage. Friends do not agree about everything. Think what a boring world it would be if everyone were like me.

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« Reply #37 on: Apr 09, 2014 08:49 am »

Yogananda states what? Where? Never read anything like it. Never!

I'll reread the first 3 chapters of the Gita, as that's where I believe it was. This will take some time. Chap III verse 3 talks about it, but I swear it was in other verses as well.

Until then, is there another way? What is it?

We started this forum without it being called some variation of the name Yogananda. Why? Because we recognize as Yogananda did; that there are many ways. It is not for me to tell you your path. We are exploring paths together and learning from one another. Sure I have found my path and way... but I still can learn from others and their unique path and way.

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« Reply #38 on: Apr 10, 2014 11:24 pm »

Well I did a lot of thumbing thru trying to find it and I cannot. I'm sure I read it,

So I placed words in PY's mouth. I'm sure I will pay for that, as Steve seems a little unfriendly, maybe I already did.

Carry on.

No problem if and when you find what your read we can have a chance to discuss it.  Smiley
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« Reply #39 on: Apr 10, 2014 11:30 pm »

And BTW, you both sure are quick on the draw. Sheesh 

Is that a good or bad thing? Try to respond to your posts SpiritImage. Some of them take some thought others I have more of an
immediate answer to because I have had more experience in the subject matter and have formulated my own ideas about the answers.
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« Reply #40 on: Apr 13, 2014 07:32 pm »

As you know there are many ways to get to the top of the mountain. Some people will spend most of their lives discussing the maps and roadways and paths there along with the possible hazards they may encounter along the way. Yet at some point we have to take the journey and find the best route for us. If we are doing this God will make changes in our means of transportation or our route when needed.

Jitendra

Steve I agree with you.

But then there's the PY bashers, and of course not only other Gurus from India, but other nations as well with their own top of the mountain methods.

Maybe they all do indeed lead to the same end. Maybe they do not. Maybe God is making changes to guide us that is very individual to where we are at on the path.

All I know is that I cannot have the slightest doubt, even 1% may be a hindrance.

God is the Doer, He has brought forth this information for us to consider and scrutinize.....

I believe that many Gurus ask us to try it ourselves. So unless we give something a try and work on it for a while how will we ever know what results are forthcoming. If I had said to myself early in my life "I do not know if I will ever be able to play an instrument and sing." Would I have ever been able to do it? People have bashed me along the way also. When you are in the public eye you will always be subject to slander as well as praise. If you are sincere God will lead you to the people and path that is for you. If you give up how can he help? What in this life comes without some effort? Very little is handed to us on a silver platter and that which is we do not very often appreciate anyhow. Use you your 99% per cent to go for it and your 1% to be somewhat skeptical if you must. If your skepticism leads you somewhere else than follow it.

I have been exposed to many paths, they are good for others and not for myself. I found what was most comfortable for me and I went for it to see if I would get results and I did.


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« Reply #43 on: Jul 06, 2014 03:36 pm »

After all these years i still find kriya yoga the most effective meditation tool. Although i must admit i have not given the iam technique practice enough time to evaluate. I  still find iam very good also. Haven't been exposed to any other powerful tools like these. I often find states of silent bliss between breaths in kriya. However long years of practice have certainly contributed. It is such a helpful tool in quieting the minds incessant activity. Kriya gives the mind something to do and then in the process it helps silence the mind so spiritual experience can manifest.
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« Reply #44 on: Jul 07, 2014 03:57 am »

Hello Scott. I especially liked this entry and the part: "here is something to consider.".... to avoid 'whirl-pooling, knotting, polarizing, hypnotizing' etc. getting back to the flow..... Always practicing; the divine science and when the energies withdraw back into the spine the body is not felt. It fades away from our consciousness and spirit is able to manifest!

There is a concept we tread upon (all of us)...

it is that we are one and in unity with God already,
so all this stuff is just not to worry about, or strive,
(why fuss to do the yoga, etc.)

Here is something we might consider...

As long as we are a beamlet wave particle of divine light manifest in the creation,
we shall experience and to some degree (even for liberated beings incarnate)
bound by the laws of creation...

"Reality is only an illusion, albeit a persistent one." -- Albert Einstein

The true beauty of the yoga,
is it provides a divine science,
to avoid polarizing, or knoting, or whirl-pooling, or hypnotizing...
upon a little nook or crany of the flow of this thing called 'life'...
rather,
it provides a gift that permits us to de-magnetize, de-hypnotize enough to keep a clear nucleus -- that being the doorway of sorts to expand the creation constructs enough in all directions, to permit a Poise or Equillibrium to be maintained...

"Prince of Peace,
Sitting on Throne of Poise,
Directing Kingdom of Activity."

So yes, we are all liberated in a true ultimate sense,
(as reality is an illusion),
yet we needn't just submit to the oscillations and pendulum swings,
and we needn't become some robot or extremist...

there is a middle path...
but the great ones all seem to have done something that the masses have not often availed...
they like great athletes, keep in shape, to remain in that Poise and Equilibrium...

?

just considering...
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