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« Reply #45 on: Aug 08, 2014 10:39 pm »

Mccoy...Just wonder how far you went with the SRF techniques and if you started out with some other spiritual tradition. Also if you exclusively use Yogananda's routines?
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« Reply #46 on: Aug 08, 2014 11:31 pm »

Mccoy...Just wonder how far you went with the SRF techniques and if you started out with some other spiritual tradition. Also if you exclusively use Yogananda's routines?

Steve, I use exclusively Yogananda's routines, I stopped at the 1st Kriya, since I see no point in taking further kriyas when I'm not even able to do properly the 1st one.

I practice hong so and kriya mainly, the AUM technque I'm not very keen on, the energization exercises I was a fan of, but after a gym injury they tend to give me pains, although lately maybe something changed in the setup of the damaged muscular tissues so I may start again with them.
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« Reply #47 on: Aug 08, 2014 11:43 pm »

Mccoy...Just wonder how far you went with the SRF techniques and if you started out with some other spiritual tradition. Also if you exclusively use Yogananda's routines?

Steve, I use exclusively Yogananda's routines, I stopped at the 1st Kriya, since I see no point in taking further kriyas when I'm not even able to do properly the 1st one.

I practice hong so and kriya mainly, the AUM technque I'm not very keen on, the energization exercises I was a fan of, but after a gym injury they tend to give me pains, although lately maybe something changed in the setup of the damaged muscular tissues so I may start again with them.

If you ever get a to see Amma her iam technique has some exercises that are much more easier than the energization exercises. I still practice Kriya daily. Nomaste2all (see posts above) comes here from time to time he is also a kriyaban and I believe 'prabhatsina' is also. Thought you may be interested. Not sure about the spiritual routines of other members... although I would be interested.
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« Reply #48 on: Aug 11, 2014 08:40 pm »

Mccoy...Just wonder how far you went with the SRF techniques and if you started out with some other spiritual tradition. Also if you exclusively use Yogananda's routines?

Steve, I use exclusively Yogananda's routines, I stopped at the 1st Kriya, since I see no point in taking further kriyas when I'm not even able to do properly the 1st one.

I practice hong so and kriya mainly, the AUM technque I'm not very keen on, the energization exercises I was a fan of, but after a gym injury they tend to give me pains, although lately maybe something changed in the setup of the damaged muscular tissues so I may start again with them.

yes... it is not such an easy tthing - controlling the mind- i believe most of us are always working on doing kriya properly.  Every one  has their preferences. The Om technique is more absorbing to me because Hong Sau  requires one to constantly think of the words. When the breath is more noticeable it seems the practice is easier but when the breath slows it often seems difficult to maintain awareness. Most people I have met consider the 2,3 and 4th kriyas for a higher age but I try them if I have some time from my work schedule... not regularly though.
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« Reply #49 on: Aug 11, 2014 08:53 pm »

Steve, sad fact is that techniques do not work as they have been reported to work. More precisely, Yogananda and SRF make it sound simple, whereas I've spent hours meditating and trying to still the breath with Hong Sau to no avail. Sure that's my fault, but if after 35 years of practice there is such a lack of achievements, I wonder. Everyone would wonder, although the flaw is sure in myself. But I've really been working hard sometimes, with huge willpower.

Of course, every spiritual routine cannot but help one's mental state of health, but I would have expected that by now I would be able to still the breath if not the heart.
Kryia, ditto, you can feel the currents when you practice good, but higher states of consciousness???T hey seem to be more a random occurrance than a consequence of techniques. And I never experienced something similar to the state of samhadi described by Yogananda.
Not complaining, actually, just ruminating.
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« Reply #50 on: Aug 12, 2014 12:02 am »

Steve, sad fact is that techniques do not work as they have been reported to work. More precisely, Yogananda and SRF make it sound simple, whereas I've spent hours meditating and trying to still the breath with Hong Sau to no avail. Sure that's my fault, but if after 35 years of practice there is such a lack of achievements, I wonder. Everyone would wonder, although the flaw is sure in myself. But I've really been working hard sometimes, with huge willpower.

mccoy you have made several interesting points in the last post. I want to first respond to the first one. Please see the thread 'Hong Sau' under SRF techniques.
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« Reply #51 on: Aug 12, 2014 05:14 am »

Steve, sad fact is that techniques do not work as they have been reported to work. More precisely, Yogananda and SRF make it sound simple, whereas I've spent hours meditating and trying to still the breath with Hong Sau to no avail. Sure that's my fault, but if after 35 years of practice there is such a lack of achievements, I wonder. Everyone would wonder, although the flaw is sure in myself. But I've really been working hard sometimes, with huge willpower.

Of course, every spiritual routine cannot but help one's mental state of health, but I would have expected that by now I would be able to still the breath if not the heart.
Kryia, ditto, you can feel the currents when you practice good, but higher states of consciousness???T hey seem to be more a random occurrance than a consequence of techniques. And I never experienced something similar to the state of samhadi described by Yogananda.
Not complaining, actually, just ruminating.

i know you have heard that God is very shy. What amazes me is he/she never quite fits our description of  God. We get these ideas in our head of what our description of spirituality should resemble. Yet in the most peculiar way God does manifest in our lives. Maybe not the way we expect or desire God to manifest but nevertheless it has the imprint of his/her presence.

We think well it seems like I should be able to stop my heart from beating by now. But we may look at our lives and find that instead we had some important person enter our life that we always dreamed about or we are able to manifest a dream we have had or be in a situation where we can work on that dream. Have you ever considered how we get ourselves into all kinds of messes and in some mysterious way God was there to help us when we were in trouble....or just about the time we were going to get involved in something that was not good for us God threw a monkey wrench in our plans to save us from impending doom? i remember having problems with nodding off and sleep in meditation and sometimes i would feel a tap at my shoulder or a voice to help get back at meditation. God knows the desires of our heart and often he goes beyond our preconcieved ideas and manifests very differently than we would think. He may be working overtime just to save us from ourselves.

Yet behind our spiritual practice God is manifesting and the more spiritual practice we do the more we see tangible manifestations of God's presence in our lives. This Kriya practice and having Gurus in my life have given me tangible situations that have shown me God was manifesting in my life. Sometimes what others would term miracles. These are not 'natural' but rather supernatural events and situations. Yet sometimes just to look at the way I saw myself and the world at one time and how it appears now! There has been  a lot of mental constructs that I held as sacred cows that had to be torn a way so that a fresher view could be taken.
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« Reply #52 on: Aug 27, 2014 02:07 am »

I can relate to that, in lieu of a successful pranayama or pratayara we should be happy with the way God & Gurus took out of trouble. Definitely so.
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« Reply #53 on: May 18, 2015 03:30 pm »

Kriya is such a good technique to occupy the mind. If we are without a good technique like IAM or kriya it is easy to just daydream without ever really experiencing what meditation is about.
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« Reply #54 on: Sep 26, 2015 02:37 pm »

Although it is important to practice the other meditation techniques I have found often that practicing kriya before any other spiritual techniques and upon awakenig is helpful. This is because the cosciousness is still interiorized  and it is easier to go into the spiritual spine and direct the consciousness up and down the shashuma. The consciousness generally becomes more scattered during the day and it is often more difficult to direct attention to the thin thread, the silver chord that brings a soothing peace and awakening bliss when the thoughts are stilled and attention is drawn to inner realms.
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« Reply #55 on: Sep 26, 2015 11:17 pm »

Kryia sort of becomes an habit which is hard to renounce.
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« Reply #56 on: Sep 29, 2015 08:20 pm »

I just recently corrected a problem, I was moving the energy up to the top of my head, highest chakra, I guess it's supposed to be third eye chakra instead. I was having some issues with too much energy staying at the highest chakra and not being able to move it back down. I know how that sounds. I'm sure there's so many little things that could be slightly off still.
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« Reply #57 on: Jul 20, 2016 02:07 am »

I just recently corrected a problem, I was moving the energy up to the top of my head, highest chakra, I guess it's supposed to be third eye chakra instead. I was having some issues with too much energy staying at the highest chakra and not being able to move it back down. I know how that sounds. I'm sure there's so many little things that could be slightly off still.

i believe we always go thru corrections in this practice That is why it is good to have someone check our practice if we come across them or seek them out. Also good to talk with others who practice Kriya. Surprisingly, Amma's iam technique does include moving the energy to the highest chakra at the top of the head however excludes the medulla. But meditation techniques should not be combined. Best to practice kriya with no 'creative' variations.  Grin

Kryia sort of becomes an habit which is hard to renounce.

What is Kriya?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

https://www.yogapedia.com/definition/5023/kriya-yoga
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« Reply #58 on: Jul 20, 2016 07:51 pm »

I just recently corrected a problem, I was moving the energy up to the top of my head, highest chakra, I guess it's supposed to be third eye chakra instead. I was having some issues with too much energy staying at the highest chakra and not being able to move it back down. I know how that sounds. I'm sure there's so many little things that could be slightly off still.

hi SI, i tried quoting you and hit the modify button on accident(incase you were wondering why it says i was the last person to touch your post) i apologize as i try to stay out of that stuff.

just wanted to say it sounds like you were the best judge for correcting your problems... very interesting
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« Reply #59 on: Jul 22, 2016 03:50 pm »

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2497788

I don't know if this will help or not. Maybe you could email Roy Eugene Davis and ask him about this subject. He seems to have a pretty sober outlook on things. I am familiar with the link you posted and it confused me too when I was trying to decide whether I should follow the Kriya yoga path. It's not hard to fall down the rabbit hole and get pretty confused, as that's what happened to me.

Hello

His accent is very thick if u understand what he said please tell me ... thanks.
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